Is it time to Gamble on Gamble

[maxxy86]

So let’s bring in Gamble after he’s had a terrible game when he was given th opportunity to run the team.

He'll hardly be running the team, that will be left up to Brooks. Think it's what Luke needs a more passive 5/8th.

 

[balmain boy]

Does anyone really think Cleary's response to us being under the pump, having little possession, and defending our line for extended periods was to kick on the 3rd or 4th tackles? Especially from our own 30m line??

No. Ivan's not that stupid.

 

[Spartan117]

Not time to Gamble, Back to Basics please

The honest truth is we should have played better and not lost either of the last 2 games against NewC or Parra.

We lost composure and the Compete on every play factor.

Forwards took the day off , No Offloads and Brooks and Backs forgot to pass the ball.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

Im sure instead of kicking on the third Ivan would rather have Benji acting like a leader and encouraging his forwards to come into the game and lay a platform.

If our platform is going to be kicking on the third rather than handing it to the forwards then we might as well just give up now.

I could understand doing it once but to do it twice and fail miserably put us on the back foot from which we never really recovered. Benji is starting to over play his hand which is worrying. For anyone to think that this was a coach’s call is plain nonsense. And if the forwards are tired you call the backs in and tell them take 5 hit ups.

 

[The_Patriot]

Some people on here just like to argue a point, never mind now stupid it sounds when you say it in the light of day.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

So let’s bring in Gamble after he’s had a terrible game when he was given th opportunity to run the team.

He'll hardly be running the team, that will be left up to Brooks. Think it's what Luke needs a more passive 5/8th.

I was referring to Gamble having a chance to step up with drinkwater gone in ISP last week. That was his chance to demand a 1st grade spot and he missed it

 

[jirskyr]

Way too many assumptions and putting words into my mouth for me to even bother responding to that.

Not putting any words in your mouth.

Assumptions = thought experiment. Point is to actually think out why we would put Benji to the bench at this time. You don't just do something because at a high-level it seems alright, you need to think it right through, all the outcomes.

Reynolds isn't back, so dropping Benji has s got to be for someone else and the way you've gone on with Gamble, I can only assume he's your front-runner for the spot. Also that is the topic of this thread.

So I played out what that actually looks like, Benji on bench and Gamble starting. Benji you suggested, actual words, that he might not be fresh enough to "not act like an idiot" and instead come on for clutch plays.

I queried if freshness/stamina is really the issue, what if it's just bad decision-making? Are we actually seeing errors from Benji only when he is tired or late in a game? Has not Benji-Brooks closed out 3 clutch games already and has Benji been the major factor in the 3 close losses?

Honestly, and I'm not personally having a go at you, it's just not much of a strategy if it cannot stand up to scrutiny / assumptions / outcomes or whatever word you choose to use.

 

[barra]

I'm a fan of Gamble and I do see him as NRL quality in the right situation. I'd select him if there'd been minimal change to a side that was going well with all combos working comfortably together. But outside the halves, our only settled backline players are #3 and #4, while our #9 is also still finding his feet… and we've been understrength in the forwards a fair bit too.

So at the moment I'd say no.

Just have to hope that Benji leaves out the rocks and plays more like he was in the earlier rounds, and Brooks steps up a little more again.

 

[The_Patriot]

Way too many assumptions and putting words into my mouth for me to even bother responding to that.

Not putting any words in your mouth.

Assumptions = thought experiment. Point is to actually think out why we would put Benji to the bench at this time. You don't just do something because at a high-level it seems alright, you need to think it right through, all the outcomes.

Reynolds isn't back, so dropping Benji has s got to be for someone else and the way you've gone on with Gamble, I can only assume he's your front-runner for the spot. Also that is the topic of this thread.

So I played out what that actually looks like, Benji on bench and Gamble starting. Benji you suggested, actual words, that he might not be fresh enough to "not act like an idiot" and instead come on for clutch plays.

I queried if freshness/stamina is really the issue, what if it's just bad decision-making? Are we actually seeing errors from Benji only when he is tired or late in a game? Has not Benji-Brooks closed out 3 clutch games already and has Benji been the major factor in the 3 close losses?

Honestly, and I'm not personally having a go at you, it's just not much of a strategy if it cannot stand up to scrutiny / assumptions / outcomes or whatever word you choose to use.

See, this is the trouble with assumptions. You assume from previous threads that I want Gamble in for Benji.

As I stated earlier I'm not sure if he should come in this week or not. He will at some stage as he is an out and out first grader but he has been up and down in reserves. It's not the ideal time to hand him his debut.

The whole point and it's a fair point is that Benji just doesn't have the mental focus and patience to play 80 minutes week to week. No offense but the only thing that needs to stand up to scrutiny is his poor decision making.

It might not be time for Gamble but it sure is time to make Benji Marshall more accountable .

It starts with making him sit.

 

[Russell]

So let’s bring in Gamble after he’s had a terrible game when he was given th opportunity to run the team.

He'll hardly be running the team, that will be left up to Brooks. Think it's what Luke needs a more passive 5/8th.

I was referring to Gamble having a chance to step up with drinkwater gone in ISP last week. That was his chance to demand a 1st grade spot and he missed it

Demand - you are joking, he can't demand anything. It is not as if he is playing well.

You would need to be on top of your game to even contemplate demanding anything.

 

[tig_prmz]

the decision to kick early wasn't too bad but the execution was horrible

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

So let’s bring in Gamble after he’s had a terrible game when he was given th opportunity to run the team.

He'll hardly be running the team, that will be left up to Brooks. Think it's what Luke needs a more passive 5/8th.

I was referring to Gamble having a chance to step up with drinkwater gone in ISP last week. That was his chance to demand a 1st grade spot and he missed it

Demand - you are joking, he can't demand anything. It is not as if he is playing well.

You would need to be on top of your game to even contemplate demanding anything.

Figuratively demand not literally demand

 

[Tiger_Steve]

What if it was the Coaches instructions to kick early as we had been under the pump…stuck in our end for a bit... :astonished:

Ronnie was throwing the spirit fingers around like a madman at the time....

Well then the coach is a moron.

Pretty simple, if the coach is asking his players to kick on the third when weve had no ball and are gassed well then that coach is a moron who has no feel for the game.

So now you’re calling Ivan Cleary a moron? Wow! You’ve just gone to another level. But it just an opinion right?

No not calling Ivan Cleary a moron at all. Youve missed the intent here.

I dont believe Ivan Cleary instructed him to do that.

"Another level" :laughing:

Whatever - couldn’t be bothered

 

[larrycorowa]

That went south quick. Benji will be ok. We don’t need to gamble at this stage.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Nothing less than this kid becoming JT 2.0 will justify the hype he gets.

 

[jirskyr]

Way too many assumptions and putting words into my mouth for me to even bother responding to that.

Not putting any words in your mouth.

Assumptions = thought experiment. Point is to actually think out why we would put Benji to the bench at this time. You don't just do something because at a high-level it seems alright, you need to think it right through, all the outcomes.

Reynolds isn't back, so dropping Benji has s got to be for someone else and the way you've gone on with Gamble, I can only assume he's your front-runner for the spot. Also that is the topic of this thread.

So I played out what that actually looks like, Benji on bench and Gamble starting. Benji you suggested, actual words, that he might not be fresh enough to "not act like an idiot" and instead come on for clutch plays.

I queried if freshness/stamina is really the issue, what if it's just bad decision-making? Are we actually seeing errors from Benji only when he is tired or late in a game? Has not Benji-Brooks closed out 3 clutch games already and has Benji been the major factor in the 3 close losses?

Honestly, and I'm not personally having a go at you, it's just not much of a strategy if it cannot stand up to scrutiny / assumptions / outcomes or whatever word you choose to use.

See, this is the trouble with assumptions. You assume from previous threads that I want Gamble in for Benji.

As I stated earlier I'm not sure if he should come in this week or not. He will at some stage as he is an out and out first grader but he has been up and down in reserves. It's not the ideal time to hand him his debut.

The whole point and it's a fair point is that Benji just doesn't have the mental focus and patience to play 80 minutes week to week. No offense but the only thing that needs to stand up to scrutiny is his poor decision making.

It might not be time for Gamble but it sure is time to make Benji Marshall more accountable .

It starts with making him sit.

Well frankly I'm very surprised if you don't think Gamble should come in, you of all people, but fair enough, you didn't explicitly mention his name even though this is a thread about Gamble.

So who comes in for Benji? Who plays 6 in your team this week?

 

[The_Patriot]

Way too many assumptions and putting words into my mouth for me to even bother responding to that.

Not putting any words in your mouth.

Assumptions = thought experiment. Point is to actually think out why we would put Benji to the bench at this time. You don't just do something because at a high-level it seems alright, you need to think it right through, all the outcomes.

Reynolds isn't back, so dropping Benji has s got to be for someone else and the way you've gone on with Gamble, I can only assume he's your front-runner for the spot. Also that is the topic of this thread.

So I played out what that actually looks like, Benji on bench and Gamble starting. Benji you suggested, actual words, that he might not be fresh enough to "not act like an idiot" and instead come on for clutch plays.

I queried if freshness/stamina is really the issue, what if it's just bad decision-making? Are we actually seeing errors from Benji only when he is tired or late in a game? Has not Benji-Brooks closed out 3 clutch games already and has Benji been the major factor in the 3 close losses?

Honestly, and I'm not personally having a go at you, it's just not much of a strategy if it cannot stand up to scrutiny / assumptions / outcomes or whatever word you choose to use.

See, this is the trouble with assumptions. You assume from previous threads that I want Gamble in for Benji.

As I stated earlier I'm not sure if he should come in this week or not. He will at some stage as he is an out and out first grader but he has been up and down in reserves. It's not the ideal time to hand him his debut.

The whole point and it's a fair point is that Benji just doesn't have the mental focus and patience to play 80 minutes week to week. No offense but the only thing that needs to stand up to scrutiny is his poor decision making.

It might not be time for Gamble but it sure is time to make Benji Marshall more accountable .

It starts with making him sit.

Well frankly I'm very surprised if you don't think Gamble should come in, you of all people, but fair enough, you didn't explicitly mention his name even though this is a thread about Gamble.

So who comes in for Benji? Who plays 6 in your team this week?

Looks like Benji lol.

I would have said Tui but he is MIA