ISP Team Announcement: Round 19

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It's hard to believe he was a consistent nrl player yet alone a SOO and premiership winner

Barely RM Cup standard imo

Neck injury must have really screwed him

Yep! Hes done.
And he's gotta go.

He looks really frustrated. Whether it’s mental or physical, he’s not enjoying himself. Time to go back to the coast and hope the change triggers something. I’d be very surprised if he sees out the contract here.

Hopefully we can get him medically retired somehow. Get some sort of money back on a massive wasted investment.
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Another JT masterstroke, along with Ballin, JT really knew his stuff :brick:
 
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Is Robson a chance of an NRL in 2019 and what is his best position?
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If he was to get a run in the NRL I imagine it would be as a bench utility as he can perform a role in the forward pack as well as in the backs. In terms of an individual position I'd say he'd go best as a centre in first grade.
 
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Disappointing the way these lads are playing. Grade has been off for weeks. It's a real test of Hodgson coaching to bring them back and focus.

It's definitely hard for a half in any grade when your forwards don't aim up..he his trying very hard in attack and anything decent generally comes of the back of Gamble…but his application in defence is still poor ..was hoping he would work hard on this area of his game.....

It seem there are some resigned to the fact they wont be here next year and are simply going through the motions...guys like Heleta, Robson, Siolo are putting in and can hold their heads up..

Agreed big test for the Coach..
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I think your right there with Tyson Geo…..another pre season under his belt then we can judge this guy I reckon. Defence does seem to be weakness. Don’t think he’s a half either, centre or fullback for mine.
 
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Disappointing the way these lads are playing. Grade has been off for weeks. It's a real test of Hodgson coaching to bring them back and focus.

It's definitely hard for a half in any grade when your forwards don't aim up..he his trying very hard in attack and anything decent generally comes of the back of Gamble…but his application in defence is still poor ..was hoping he would work hard on this area of his game.....

It seem there are some resigned to the fact they wont be here next year and are simply going through the motions...guys like Heleta, Robson, Siolo are putting in and can hold their heads up..

Agreed big test for the Coach..
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Gamble sucks.
 
The forwards are simply not earning their pay packets. Obviously many of this much vaunted ISP pack are treating the club as a a retirement home.
 
Agree ….. the coach needs to prove his worth here.
I know that most of the squad will not be with us next year but playing semis should be motivation enough.
Still enough quality in this team .... but you got to get them to perform.
 
There's a reason these forwards with so much experience are playing in ISP. Because their form is woeful, and they're not trying to improve. They are not an asset to this ISP squad, they are a hindrance. They aren't leading from the front, they're walking through the motions.

Rip in or play ron massey.

Hodgo has to shake this side up a bit. Far too much complacency for a team who's barely won a game in months.
 
Very soft forwards although Oliver Clark defends strongly and ran well while he was on. He has size and youth on his side. McQueen and Rochow are finished. Heleta always plays well. Robson runs hard but has poor reads in defence. He's a winger in my view. Young Price tried hard on the wing and McIntyre looked ok . Gamble makes some
errors but he plays for 80 minutes and at least tries things. His kicks were mostly fine but no one chased them. he runs and passes well but needs to improve his defence. I'd keep him at this stage. The forwards are woeful.
 
Wanted to share the stats from the weekend
From the key forwards

Chris McQueen - 80 minutes, 24 tackles, 5 missed and 172 meters run with 2 tackle breaks
Tim Grant - 38 minutes, 16 tackels, 3 missed and 88 meters with 1 tackle break
Oliver Clarke - 32 minutes, 21 tackles, 2 missed - 72 meters run
Robbie Rochouw - 80 minutes, 20 tackles, 72 meters
Epere - 51 minutes, 25 tackles, 3 missed, 136 meters run, 2 tbs
Siolo - 59 minutes, 37 tackles, 89 meters
 
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Very soft forwards although Oliver Clark defends strongly and ran well while he was on. He has size and youth on his side. McQueen and Rochow are finished. Heleta always plays well. Robson runs hard but has poor reads in defence. He's a winger in my view. Young Price tried hard on the wing and McIntyre looked ok . Gamble makes some
errors but he plays for 80 minutes and at least tries things. His kicks were mostly fine but no one chased them. he runs and passes well but needs to improve his defence. I'd keep him at this stage. The forwards are woeful.
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It's funny i thought Clark was one of our worst. Made about 5 hitups for 30 odd metres in his first stint. Then only came on for the last 15\. Looks to be quite unfit as he hasn't played more than 40 mins all season, only got 30 on the weekend despite our middles getting smashed. Maybe says something of what Hodgo thinks about him! He tackles ok but so far looks a far inferior player to Felise who couldn't get a look in at first grade yet consistently made 140m, 25 tackles and a few busts and offloads a game. Maybe training wasn't his specialty.

Robson is a quality utility but he's no winger unless a mid game emergency reshuffle is needed. Not fast enough and he needs to get his hands on the ball more. I'd see him as a hooker/back row/centre.

McQueen made some metres because Gamble put him through a gap so he ran 60m in one go.
 
Because you have already made your mind up on Clark BB…

He made M aftet contact better than the other pillows and actually stopped blokes with defence...
 
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Because you have already made your mind up on Clark BB…

He made M aftet contact better than the other pillows and actually stopped blokes with defence...
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No, i haven't made up my mind, I make decisions based on the information available to me. His form so far. I'll wait until 10 rounds into next season before I say whether he's got it or not, the evidence so far suggests he hasn't but give him the off season and see how he goes. At this stage i'd have Mikaele in front of him.

He was our poorest prop on the weekend. Epere, Ratu and Grant all had more impact. Epere and Ratu both made more post contact metres than Clark. Clark's inability to play meaningful minutes is a concern.

All of our forwards missed tackles in the middle of the field.
 
I must have watched a different game BB. Epere and Ratu have zero potential to play first grade. They are run of the mill Ron Massey players. Agree on Clarks low minutes but I thought he was good when he was on . The stats back that up.I reckon a full pre season will show whether Clarks got it or not. I think there is potential there
 
Anyone see symmetry in Clark arriving just prior to 30 June this year and Twal the previous year? And being from the Panthers, do you think IC is not ware of Clark's potential?
 
Look Clark is solid, but i'm not sure he would add anything we don't already have in first grade. We already have a bunch of solid players.

Mikaele has the potential to be a bit more of a game breaker for us, but he tried too hard when he was promoted to ISP earlier in the year, making a number of mistakes.

With a full off season behind them (hopefully no surgeries needed) we'll see how they are in 2019.
 
We may not have the same squad of players and even those we have may play different roles next year, especially in the forwards. I don't believe he will be costing us greatly and the upside is his rate of improvement. Surely a quick look at Twal's promotion will inspire him to work much harder to bridge the gap. Props are in short supply and he may turn out to be a good buy,
 
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