Its not all about the players

[Snake]

Its time Maguire took ownership of the situation the performance of the team the position on the ladder another season not making a final series ..its not just the players I have been watching this game long enough to know a coach CAN make an average player hold his own .
This is a poorly coached team last night just confirmed it ...the club can spin this any way they like ,brining in a few better quality players will not fix the issue the issue is the coach and he needs to be removed .
His record at the club just reaffirms my views the team has been on a negative downward projective since his appointment ... Its easy to blame the players its time the real blame should be brought to a head !

 

[TooLong]

He is know in league circles as a 1 trick pony; we are now coming to see why.

 

[yeahcaz]

Its time Maguire took ownership of the situation the performance of the team the position on the ladder another season not making a final series ..its not just the players I have been watching this game long enough to know a coach CAN make an average player hold his own .
This is a poorly coached team last night just confirmed it ...the club can spin this any way they like ,brining in a few better quality players will not fix the issue the issue is the coach and he needs to be removed .
His record at the club just reaffirms my views the team has been on a negative downward projective since his appointment ... Its easy to blame the players its time the real blame should be brought to a head !

100%.

They can say we’ve consistently failed under numerous coaches but it is still the coaches responsibility in any sport, to motivate his players. Madge clearly can’t do this week by week.
He’s supposed to be a defence orientated coach and in the last 12-18 months, our defence has been probably the worst it’s ever been.

Resigning him in the summer was a mistake and this club needs to make a long term decision on him soon before we have a Cleary 2.0 situation on our hands where we let him use all of our available cap space and then he leaves, taking us back another 4-5 years

 

[TigerWest]

Its time Maguire took ownership of the situation the performance of the team the position on the ladder another season not making a final series ..its not just the players I have been watching this game long enough to know a coach CAN make an average player hold his own .
This is a poorly coached team last night just confirmed it ...the club can spin this any way they like ,brining in a few better quality players will not fix the issue the issue is the coach and he needs to be removed .
His record at the club just reaffirms my views the team has been on a negative downward projective since his appointment ... Its easy to blame the players its time the real blame should be brought to a head !

100%.

They can say we’ve consistently failed under numerous coaches but it is still the coaches responsibility in any sport, to motivate his players. Madge clearly can’t do this week by week.
He’s supposed to be a defence orientated coach and in the last 12-18 months, our defence has been probably the worst it’s ever been.

Resigning him in the summer was a mistake and this club needs to make a long term decision on him soon before we have a Cleary 2.0 situation on our hands **where we let him use all of our available cap space and then he leaves, taking us back another 4-5 years**

No offence, but that issue was been taken out of his hands, when Hartigan come over.

 

[Goldust]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

 

[TigerWest]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

That's where they belong though?

 

[yeahcaz]

Its time Maguire took ownership of the situation the performance of the team the position on the ladder another season not making a final series ..its not just the players I have been watching this game long enough to know a coach CAN make an average player hold his own .
This is a poorly coached team last night just confirmed it ...the club can spin this any way they like ,brining in a few better quality players will not fix the issue the issue is the coach and he needs to be removed .
His record at the club just reaffirms my views the team has been on a negative downward projective since his appointment ... Its easy to blame the players its time the real blame should be brought to a head !

100%.

They can say we’ve consistently failed under numerous coaches but it is still the coaches responsibility in any sport, to motivate his players. Madge clearly can’t do this week by week.
He’s supposed to be a defence orientated coach and in the last 12-18 months, our defence has been probably the worst it’s ever been.

Resigning him in the summer was a mistake and this club needs to make a long term decision on him soon before we have a Cleary 2.0 situation on our hands **where we let him use all of our available cap space and then he leaves, taking us back another 4-5 years**

No offence, but that issue was been taken out of his hands, when Hartigan come over.

Surely you’re not saying Madge has no say in who comes in

 

[Goldust]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

That's where they belong though?

Talau yes
Noffa most of the time yes,can take a hit up with the best of em when he doesn’t run sideways lol

 

[avocadoontoast]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

That's where they belong though?


Talau yes
Noffa most of the time yes,can take a hit up with the best of em when he doesn’t run sideways lol

He’s a flog. Carries on like he’s one of the elite wingers in the game when he’s close to the worst.

 

[Yossarian]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

Who plays wing though? He tried Cini and he had a decent debut followed by an awful second game. Hoffman? Judging my the flurry of signing speculation and meetings he's clearly not satisfied with the talent he has.

 

[TigerWest]

Its time Maguire took ownership of the situation the performance of the team the position on the ladder another season not making a final series ..its not just the players I have been watching this game long enough to know a coach CAN make an average player hold his own .
This is a poorly coached team last night just confirmed it ...the club can spin this any way they like ,brining in a few better quality players will not fix the issue the issue is the coach and he needs to be removed .
His record at the club just reaffirms my views the team has been on a negative downward projective since his appointment ... Its easy to blame the players its time the real blame should be brought to a head !

100%.

They can say we’ve consistently failed under numerous coaches but it is still the coaches responsibility in any sport, to motivate his players. Madge clearly can’t do this week by week.
He’s supposed to be a defence orientated coach and in the last 12-18 months, our defence has been probably the worst it’s ever been.

Resigning him in the summer was a mistake and this club needs to make a long term decision on him soon before we have a Cleary 2.0 situation on our hands **where we let him use all of our available cap space and then he leaves, taking us back another 4-5 years**

No offence, but that issue was been taken out of his hands, when Hartigan come over.

Surely you’re not saying Madge has no say in who comes in

Of course he does, but not the final say. (Search recent articles on Hartigan)

I assume it is so we don’t end up in another Cleary fiasco. Bronc’s have said they (and I am sure others as well) do the same thing.

Trouble is imo, that they now refuse to pay overs for a player, which makes it hard to get the good ones?

 

[avocadoontoast]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

Who plays wing though? He tried Cini and he had a decent debut followed by an awful second game. Hoffman? Judging my the flurry of signing speculation and meetings he's clearly not satisfied with the talent he has.

And it’s good he’s trying to rectify the situation. But he’s been here 2.5 seasons, why didn’t he realise it before?

 

[Yossarian]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

Who plays wing though? He tried Cini and he had a decent debut followed by an awful second game. Hoffman? Judging my the flurry of signing speculation and meetings he's clearly not satisfied with the talent he has.

And it’s good he’s trying to rectify the situation. But he’s been here 2.5 seasons, why didn’t he realise it before?

He's not really had the cap capacity to do much. Until he offloaded Reynolds and a few others he couldn't target anyone decent.

 

[Snake]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

Who plays wing though? He tried Cini and he had a decent debut followed by an awful second game. Hoffman? Judging my the flurry of signing speculation and meetings he's clearly not satisfied with the talent he has.

And it’s good he’s trying to rectify the situation. But he’s been here 2.5 seasons, why didn’t he realise it before?

Maybe Maguire could turn out a team that looks coached have structures in A&D motivate players to hold there own ..this is a team of individuals this is not a team of players and this is how there coached and the results do not lie .

 

[Goldust]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

Who plays wing though? He tried Cini and he had a decent debut followed by an awful second game. Hoffman? Judging my the flurry of signing speculation and meetings he's clearly not satisfied with the talent he has.

Hard to Judge Cini as you said one bad game one good game.
Talau has had multiple bad games.
Noffa just doesn’t learn.his resigning was a horrible decision.
I actually don’t know the solution for this season,but I cringe every time the ball goes out wide.

 

[Snake]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

Who plays wing though? He tried Cini and he had a decent debut followed by an awful second game. Hoffman? Judging my the flurry of signing speculation and meetings he's clearly not satisfied with the talent he has.

And it’s good he’s trying to rectify the situation. But he’s been here 2.5 seasons, why didn’t he realise it before?

He's not really had the cap capacity to do much. Until he offloaded Reynolds and a few others he couldn't target anyone decent.

Maybe he should start coaching that is what he is paid to do ! No spin covers the real results a failure.

 

[avocadoontoast]

If these sort of defensive issues continue surely Madge has to go.
Talau and Noffa would struggle to defend in NSW cup

Who plays wing though? He tried Cini and he had a decent debut followed by an awful second game. Hoffman? Judging my the flurry of signing speculation and meetings he's clearly not satisfied with the talent he has.

And it’s good he’s trying to rectify the situation. But he’s been here 2.5 seasons, why didn’t he realise it before?

He's not really had the cap capacity to do much. Until he offloaded Reynolds and a few others he couldn't target anyone decent.

He had the money to go hard for Latrell Mitchell on more than $1m a season. That would have bought 2 pretty good wingers.

 

[eyewondertwo]

All wests tigers supporters can sense when the opposition is going to score a try.How oppositions can create a two or three man overlap is the teams weakness.Why cant that be fixed by the coaching staff?
i get one man but two or three?

 

[PJ_]

Its time Maguire took ownership of the situation the performance of the team the position on the ladder another season not making a final series ..its not just the players I have been watching this game long enough to know a coach CAN make an average player hold his own .
This is a poorly coached team last night just confirmed it ...the club can spin this any way they like ,brining in a few better quality players will not fix the issue the issue is the coach and he needs to be removed .
His record at the club just reaffirms my views the team has been on a negative downward projective since his appointment ... Its easy to blame the players its time the real blame should be brought to a head !

👍💯

 

[PJ_]

All wests tigers supporters can sense when the opposition is going to score a try.How oppositions can create a two or three man overlap is the teams weakness.Why cant that be fixed by the coaching staff?
i get one man but two or three?

Any time the team opponent is down our end they either score or lose possession from an unforced error. We have no idea how to defend our line