Ivan Cleary - THREAD..

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Have you ever heard of punctuation?

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Who's Clearly? :laughing: I expected better English from the Queen!

That is one long sentence.

We all suspected it, but now we finaly have the empiricial proof – grammar nazis are assholes.

Researchers at the university of michigan have drilled down into the minds of the obnoxious pedants whom feel the need to correct everyones grammar all the time.

As part of their study they asked 83 people to analyse an email full, of erors and then evaluated their personality traits.

The results were frankly unsurprising to.

Gramar police scored low on levels of agreeability and openmindedness, and high on levels of neuroticism and conscientiousness.
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The study also found that extraverts are more likely to overlook typos when judging a person, while introverts would negatively evaluate someones character if they’re email was full of mistakes.
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Are you an English teacher, marking a students paper? Strike while the lion is hot, and correct that grammar!

You misspelt grammar in paragraph 5, Your Majesty. I know you're not the real Queen because Alan Jones is and he also has a thing for hot British Lions.
 
Gould is no fool,and would have been aware that we’d say no.
I expect thatPenrith have more than just the offer up their sleeve.
They want to get. Both of them, and they’d be well aware of how much it will. cost them.
And are probably willing to pay it.
Maybe a player or two from their seemingly endless supply.
As a father, I would t be bring ing My son here until we had a much stronger team . Maybe he knows more than we do about
Our future strength.
 
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Interesting tweet from Gould earlier after someone said that he should apologize to the Tigers members…which Gus 'liked'

https://twitter.com/PhilGould15/status/1026784314631933952

Its an interesting tweet alright.

Could mean a number of things though. My first thought is that he is saying Cleary went to them.

David ONeill chairman of Penrith - Ivan's very good mate- reportedly got the ball rolling with this whole scenario.
Gus may not have been the catalyst in this move however he is shouldering the blame
 
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Beautiful put mate fully support it.

Thanks Fellas
I really hope I'm wrong about him. Ttere are too many conflicting stories for any of us to know, but it does seem very plausible that he has sought a switch with a long way to go on his contract after committing us to a path that the next coach may disagree with. And the poor old Wests Tigers go back to square one…. again....

Yeah mate if the nrl continues like this I will be switching off.

I used to love Rugby but at the ripe age of 18 i am starting to give up on the sport.

Me too. Too bad this is a rugby league forum mate
 
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Have you ever heard of punctuation?

:brick: :brick:

Who's Clearly? :laughing: I expected better English from the Queen!

That is one long sentence.

We all suspected it, but now we finaly have the empiricial proof – grammar nazis are assholes.

Researchers at the university of michigan have drilled down into the minds of the obnoxious pedants whom feel the need to correct everyones grammar all the time.

As part of their study they asked 83 people to analyse an email full, of erors and then evaluated their personality traits.

The results were frankly unsurprising to.

Gramar police scored low on levels of agreeability and openmindedness, and high on levels of neuroticism and conscientiousness.
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The study also found that extraverts are more likely to overlook typos when judging a person, while introverts would negatively evaluate someones character if they’re email was full of mistakes.
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Are you an English teacher, marking a students paper? Strike while the lion is hot, and correct that grammar!

Wrong forum dude
 
If Ivan visited the Panthers to hear out there offer , it takes the gloss of him but he has said he wants to coach his son , if Ivan come back and met with Jutin and told him about the offer , I'm ok with that as its honest , But if he asked for a release that changes everything
2.5 years to go on a contract put simply if Penrith want him bad enough and he wants out no problem

$ 5000,000 Dollars compensation to Tigers From Penrith and off he goes OR

We say no , and move Hodgo to head coach and let CLEARY run reserve grade for 2.5 years , that way Penrith will need a coach to come in for 2.5 years knowing he is dead in the water after 2020

Option 3 , and I'm hearing this today , Nathan has told Ivan he wants to stay at Penrith and Ivan approached Penrith , Hence 2 meetings at the Tigers , first one to ask for a release , second meeting where he got told no release , This will play out for a couple of weeks and then Ivan will be released
 
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Interesting tweet from Gould earlier after someone said that he should apologize to the Tigers members…which Gus 'liked'

https://twitter.com/PhilGould15/status/1026784314631933952

Its an interesting tweet alright.

Could mean a number of things though. My first thought is that he is saying Cleary went to them.

Cleary's suggestion 2019.
Penrith sounded him out about if possible and when. Clearly's wanted to drive the bus straight to Penrith certainty had zero interest in seeing out his contract with West Tigers.
 
Nathan wants to stay at Penrith.
Ivan really needs to let go of the reigns and let him forge his own path. He is doing fine.
 
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Who's Clearly? :laughing: I expected better English from the Queen!

That is one long sentence.

We all suspected it, but now we finaly have the empiricial proof – grammar nazis are assholes.

Researchers at the university of michigan have drilled down into the minds of the obnoxious pedants whom feel the need to correct everyones grammar all the time.

As part of their study they asked 83 people to analyse an email full, of erors and then evaluated their personality traits.

The results were frankly unsurprising to.

Gramar police scored low on levels of agreeability and openmindedness, and high on levels of neuroticism and conscientiousness.

It's extrovert not extravert. And the expression is: "strike while the iron is hot" , not: "strike while the lion is hot". It's called English posters. Not lazy, incoherent, unpunctuated, misspelt gibberish.
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The study also found that extraverts are more likely to overlook typos when judging a person, while introverts would negatively evaluate someones character if they’re email was full of mistakes.
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Are you an English teacher, marking a students paper? Strike while the lion is hot, and correct that grammar!

Wrong forum dude
 
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If Ivan visited the Panthers to hear out there offer , it takes the gloss of him but he has said he wants to coach his son , if Ivan come back and met with Jutin and told him about the offer , I'm ok with that as its honest , But if he asked for a release that changes everything
2.5 years to go on a contract put simply if Penrith want him bad enough and he wants out no problem

$ 5000,000 Dollars compensation to Tigers From Penrith and off he goes OR

We say no , and move Hodgo to head coach and let CLEARY run reserve grade for 2.5 years , that way Penrith will need a coach to come in for 2.5 years knowing he is dead in the water after 2020

Option 3 , and I'm hearing this today , Nathan has told Ivan he wants to stay at Penrith and Ivan approached Penrith , Hence 2 meetings at the Tigers , first one to ask for a release , second meeting where he got told no release , This will play out for a couple of weeks and then Ivan will be released

I can understand why Nathan would want to stay at Penrith:

1) better squad than WT's
2) better facilities than WT
3) Plays with his mates
4) better chance of retaining his SOO jumper…

But hey, both Cleary's should be professional about this, they are not in an U9's competition. They should not be so selfish with their personal desires to the detriment of their careers....Nathan if you want to be coached by your old man....follow him...not the other way around.
 
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If Ivan visited the Panthers to hear out there offer , it takes the gloss of him but he has said he wants to coach his son , if Ivan come back and met with Jutin and told him about the offer , I'm ok with that as its honest , But if he asked for a release that changes everything
2.5 years to go on a contract put simply if Penrith want him bad enough and he wants out no problem

$ 5000,000 Dollars compensation to Tigers From Penrith and off he goes OR

We say no , and move Hodgo to head coach and let CLEARY run reserve grade for 2.5 years , that way Penrith will need a coach to come in for 2.5 years knowing he is dead in the water after 2020

Option 3 , and I'm hearing this today , Nathan has told Ivan he wants to stay at Penrith and Ivan approached Penrith , Hence 2 meetings at the Tigers , first one to ask for a release , second meeting where he got told no release , This will play out for a couple of weeks and then Ivan will be released

I can understand why Nathan would want to stay at Penrith:

1) better squad than WT's
2) better facilities than WT
3) Plays with his mates
4) better chance of retaining his SOO jumper…

But hey, both Cleary's should be professional about this, they are not in an U9's competition. They should not be so selfish with their personal desires to the detriment of their careers....Nathan if you want to be coached by your old man....follow him...not the other way around.

Lets be fair. We were fine with what they wanted when it suited us. We even wanted to see Nathan break his contract to come here next year. We were cool with that. Suddenly its turning against us and they are slimeballs.
 
It's extrovert, not extravert. And the expression is: "strike while the iron is hot" not, "strike while the lion is hot." It refers to blacksmithing and uses that as an allusion to the need to be decisive and back your decisions. Every forum is the right forum to call out lazy , incoherent, unpunctuated, misspelt gibberish. It's called good communication, in English. Dude.
 
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If the situation is true and smoking gun is saying at it is Wests Tigers have NO leverage.

Ivan wants to leave to coach Penrith, we beat our chests say no it is not happening he’s under contract.

If we don’t let him go we have a coach who doesn’t want to be here. So in affect the leader of the football doesn’t want to be at the club which is filter down through all levels like a poison. Penrith will offer the club some half arsed tokenistic deal knowing they are the ones with power and we are screwed.

The only hope we have is that Ivan is a man of his word and is having one over Penrith to lure Nathan here. But let’s be honest from what we know of each clubs facilities, player potential and money Penrith is a stronger club.

The leverage tigers have is he can’t coach another first grade NRL team til 2021\. The leverage is Penrith are hell bent on keeping Nathan they are trying to lure his dad there now. If Penrith don’t want to wait they will ha r to give up assets. That’s business

Well SG I have my list for Gus

You keep IC and NC

We will have

Tamou
RCG
Maloney
Mansour
Kikau

and 1.2 million in compensation

Sorry what was that Gus ??

Sorry Gus , I can't understand you …....oh sorry your gagging on it

My apologies

Yeah right and the NRL would say oh yeah that fine, contracts registered. :brick:
Even allowing for your exaggeration and we were looking at only 2 Penrith players paid under pnriths cap as SG suggests… Do we really thing THE NRL would allow this can of worms to become a precedent and usual practise?
It's effectively Penrith with 28 man squad paying for 30 and WTs with 32 man squad paying for 30... it would not happen

That’s the power wests tigers have in this scenario. And they should use it. Like I said just because it hasn’t been done doesn’t mean in can’t be done. Cleary is an asset. Tigers can use him how they want if he wants out. Tigers have invested a lot in Ivan. A lot. So to think they would just let him walk out for a couple hundred thousand is ridiculous. And I’d hope that’s pascoes mentality as well. He doesn’t seem to be the kind of bloke who would do Penrith any favours. I’d expect cash and 2 players if they want Cleary like reported would be the minimum.
 

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