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@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260405) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.
 
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260406) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260405) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.
 
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260406) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260405) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

If it takes a little extra to get him over the line I have absolutely no problem with that.
 
Hard to gauge what other clubs are prepared to pay with no actual offers. They can talk it but without a concrete offer JAC needs to be careful about passing the bird in the hand. A bad season, or injury - 12 months is a long time in footy - his value is more likely to go down than up especially if he is Melbourne and would rather be in Sydney.
 
@mikey said in [JAC](/post/1260412) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260406) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260405) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.

That's the thing, throughout all the original negotiations the club received nothing but positivity from JAC camp & he was excited about "coming home" & helping bring success. The club was excited & just let the media speculate, but within the last 2 weeks & certain leaks to certain jurnos have rushed forward this meeting on Thursday.
 
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260417) said:
@mikey said in [JAC](/post/1260412) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260406) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260405) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.

That's the thing, throughout all the original negotiations the club received nothing but positivity from JAC camp & he was excited about "coming home" & helping bring success. The club was excited & just let the media speculate, but within the last 2 weeks & certain leaks to certain jurnos have rushed forward this meeting on Thursday.

Do you think it’s more likely we’ll get him than not?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260420) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260417) said:
@mikey said in [JAC](/post/1260412) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260406) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260405) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.

That's the thing, throughout all the original negotiations the club received nothing but positivity from JAC camp & he was excited about "coming home" & helping bring success. The club was excited & just let the media speculate, but within the last 2 weeks & certain leaks to certain jurnos have rushed forward this meeting on Thursday.

Do you think it’s more likely we’ll get him than not?

More confident than not that we will get the deal done.
 
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260421) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260420) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260417) said:
@mikey said in [JAC](/post/1260412) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260406) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260405) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.

That's the thing, throughout all the original negotiations the club received nothing but positivity from JAC camp & he was excited about "coming home" & helping bring success. The club was excited & just let the media speculate, but within the last 2 weeks & certain leaks to certain jurnos have rushed forward this meeting on Thursday.

Do you think it’s more likely we’ll get him than not?

More confident than not that we will get the deal done.

Let’s hope so. We need him and we need one big name signing to have some positive news written about us.
 
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260421) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260420) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260417) said:
@mikey said in [JAC](/post/1260412) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260406) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260405) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.

That's the thing, throughout all the original negotiations the club received nothing but positivity from JAC camp & he was excited about "coming home" & helping bring success. The club was excited & just let the media speculate, but within the last 2 weeks & certain leaks to certain jurnos have rushed forward this meeting on Thursday.

Do you think it’s more likely we’ll get him than not?

More confident than not that we will get the deal done.

Sounds great mate
 
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260421) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260420) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260417) said:
@mikey said in [JAC](/post/1260412) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260406) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260405) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.

That's the thing, throughout all the original negotiations the club received nothing but positivity from JAC camp & he was excited about "coming home" & helping bring success. The club was excited & just let the media speculate, but within the last 2 weeks & certain leaks to certain jurnos have rushed forward this meeting on Thursday.

Do you think it’s more likely we’ll get him than not?

More confident than not that we will get the deal done.


Thanks POM! Looking forward to Friday’s news? ?
 
JAC brings a lot on the field which warrants the money we’re offering and if it takes a little more to get the deal over I think we should do it 100%

I think one of his biggest attributes which gets overlooked is his ability to create team harmony, along with making our club an attractable destination for free agents as JAC has good relationship with multiple players around the league as he has a very likeable personality - goes along way with the family orientated team culture the club I’m assuming is trying to install
 
@teddy23 said in [JAC](/post/1260433) said:
JAC brings a lot on the field which warrants the money we’re offering and if it takes a little more to get the deal over I think we should do it 100%

I think one of his biggest attributes which gets overlooked is his ability to create team harmony, along with making our club an attractable destination for free agents as JAC has good relationship with multiple players around the league as he has a very likeable personality - goes along way with the family orientated team culture the club I’m assuming is trying to install

Absolutely. If we can get JAC and somehow land Crichton we're heading in the right direction. Tbh, as much as I love Grant as a player i'm happy to keep Liddle and Simpkin and get Crichton with the money instead.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [JAC](/post/1260435) said:
@teddy23 said in [JAC](/post/1260433) said:
JAC brings a lot on the field which warrants the money we’re offering and if it takes a little more to get the deal over I think we should do it 100%

I think one of his biggest attributes which gets overlooked is his ability to create team harmony, along with making our club an attractable destination for free agents as JAC has good relationship with multiple players around the league as he has a very likeable personality - goes along way with the family orientated team culture the club I’m assuming is trying to install

Absolutely. If we can get JAC and somehow land Crichton we're heading in the right direction. Tbh, as much as I love Grant as a player i'm happy to keep Liddle and Simpkin and get Crichton with the money instead.

If we had JAC last year during the Latrell negotiations I reckon Latrell would be a Tiger, just an example sort of glad he didn’t come for the money we offered but yeah

JAC makes our club look a little more legitimate when trying to recruit stars across the league
 
Give the man his money. He will be worth it! The original figure thrown around was something like $550k a season (without the bonus) no reason we can’t give him more
 
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

What about the player swap situation with Melbourne?
 
@05TIGZZ said in [JAC](/post/1260444) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

What about the player swap situation with Melbourne?

This ^
 
@05TIGZZ said in [JAC](/post/1260444) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

What about the player swap situation with Melbourne?

Yeah are Melbourne releasing him for this season?
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1260448) said:
@05TIGZZ said in [JAC](/post/1260444) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

What about the player swap situation with Melbourne?

Yeah are Melbourne releasing him for this season?

Nothing coming from us going to Melbourne but they will get their replacement.
They aren't going to get their "like for like" but will get their next diamond in the rough to become the next best player.
 
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260450) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [JAC](/post/1260448) said:
@05TIGZZ said in [JAC](/post/1260444) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1260403) said:
Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

What about the player swap situation with Melbourne?

Yeah are Melbourne releasing him for this season?

Nothing coming from us going to Melbourne but they will get their replacement.
They aren't going to get their "like for like" but will get their next diamond in the rough to become the next best player.

They’ve got Jennings and sounds like they might get Reimis Smith too. Hopefully this is sorted as soon as possible and he’s announced as a tiger before the new year!
 

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