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19.10.2020

Bulldogs reportedly in box seat to sign Storm grand final winger Josh Addo-Carr


The Bulldogs have become favourites to sign Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr, a new report says.

The Daily Telegraph reported that Addo-Carr was a big chance to play for a grand final opponent next season, with Panthers assistant Trent Barrett taking over as Canterbury head coach. Addo-Carr, the NSW Origin and Australian Test winger, is a Barrett fan.

Addo-Carr is seeking a move back to Sydney for family reasons. The Rabbitohs and Wests Tigers are also in the mix for his signature.

It has been reported that he wants to play fullback; it is unclear what position he may play at the Bulldogs. The struggling club has already signed Canberra winger Nick Cotric for next season, though he could play in the centres.

The Storm granted Addo-Carr a release on the proviso that it gained a comparable player in return from his new club. That sticking point will need to be worked out in the ongoing negotiations.
Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr in action during his team's preliminary final win over Canberra. (Getty)

Addo-Carr is leaving all negotiations to his management, aiming to enjoy a winning farewell with Melbourne in the looming grand final.

"I made the decision to put all that stuff behind me and really focus on the finals series," he told The Sunday Footy Show.

"My manager and the Melbourne Storm are really working their backsides off to get this deal


What this report says to me (particularly with the Pom news) is that the Tigers have made the right offer, sounds about right. If the Dogs drop out of the clouds and poach him it is ONLY about $$$ and the Tigers are right and doing the right thing letting it go.

Wont stop a lot of hand wringing here about how terrible we are because we let another one slip, but at the end of the day, to me , the club is going about this in a professional manner.

Professional gets you nowhere in this league.

First: Panthers - numerous sex and Covid scandals last 18 months, poached a coach under contract
Second: Storm - systematic cheats, stripped of titles
Third: Eels -systematic cheats, stripped of premiership points
Fourth: Roosters - nothing to see there

Can we try unprofessional?

We are unprofessional

We just suck at it

11th - Wests Tigers - salary cap punishment for trying unsuccesfully to cheat the cap.

explain how we benefited from this
By paying RF $600,000 out of our cap to play for souths
By re signing him 18 months later
By offering him a job he never took
Or by having our cap reduced by $640,000 over two years
All for a hooker who's time was up
Oh and throw in the fact our CEO was band from performing his job for 6 months
There seems to be two standards in this league
One for Wests Tigers
And one for the rest

We didnt benefit, that why Pascoe should be gone.
 
@tony-soprano said in [JAC](/post/1250200) said:
@OldMagpie said in [JAC](/post/1250166) said:
i have been informed that JAC has signed a "heads of agreement" with us. It's a good start but not a contract yet.

Source ? Where you hear it?

Do you really expect me to answer this question?
 
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1250084) said:
@twentyforty said in [JAC](/post/1250069) said:
@jrtiger said in [JAC](/post/1250062) said:
think this whole situation is out of our hands at the moment, and we need to just be patient until after grand final to see how this all plays out. if it's true that Melbourne have signed Jennings then that should allow us to sign JAC for 2021, but things may well drag on past November 1.


?? are you suggesting Jennings is a like for like swap? ROFL ?


Who do you suggest is a "like for like" replacement for JAC? Jennings isa winger, thats a start.


I don’t know that he has an equal? Certainly not one who is available. Bellamy’s way of putting his problem on the shoulders of other coaches.
 
@851 said in [JAC](/post/1250043) said:
@jirskyr said in [JAC](/post/1249957) said:
@851 said in [JAC](/post/1249937) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1249901) said:
@Newtown said in [JAC](/post/1249899) said:
NineSportNRL
19.10.2020

Bulldogs reportedly in box seat to sign Storm grand final winger Josh Addo-Carr


The Bulldogs have become favourites to sign Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr, a new report says.

The Daily Telegraph reported that Addo-Carr was a big chance to play for a grand final opponent next season, with Panthers assistant Trent Barrett taking over as Canterbury head coach. Addo-Carr, the NSW Origin and Australian Test winger, is a Barrett fan.

Addo-Carr is seeking a move back to Sydney for family reasons. The Rabbitohs and Wests Tigers are also in the mix for his signature.

It has been reported that he wants to play fullback; it is unclear what position he may play at the Bulldogs. The struggling club has already signed Canberra winger Nick Cotric for next season, though he could play in the centres.

The Storm granted Addo-Carr a release on the proviso that it gained a comparable player in return from his new club. That sticking point will need to be worked out in the ongoing negotiations.
Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr in action during his team's preliminary final win over Canberra. (Getty)

Addo-Carr is leaving all negotiations to his management, aiming to enjoy a winning farewell with Melbourne in the looming grand final.

"I made the decision to put all that stuff behind me and really focus on the finals series," he told The Sunday Footy Show.

"My manager and the Melbourne Storm are really working their backsides off to get this deal


What this report says to me (particularly with the Pom news) is that the Tigers have made the right offer, sounds about right. If the Dogs drop out of the clouds and poach him it is ONLY about $$$ and the Tigers are right and doing the right thing letting it go.

Wont stop a lot of hand wringing here about how terrible we are because we let another one slip, but at the end of the day, to me , the club is going about this in a professional manner.

Whilst I somewhat agree, if we miss out on JAC to the dogs, we will cop it in the press big time about how the club is a mess. I think the JAC signing has more riding on it for the club’s future than many people realise, miss another one and we will be highlighted as a club to avoid

Honestly, how could anyone possibly take a narrative that Tigers are a mess, if Addo-Carr joins Bulldogs?

Anyone joining Bulldogs shows that "being a mess" has nothing to do with it, because Bulldogs are the most disrupted and poorly-performing club going around. Broncos, at least, still have huge business in Brisbane and very solid support. Bulldogs have just gone through another board, sacked a coach and hired a new one who was sacked from his last appointment, were saved from the spoon only by F/A and have nothing doing in their spine for yet another year.

Bulldogs won 3 games in 2020. So people can run the "even Bulldogs can sign players why can't Tigers" line, but in making those signings Bulldogs have only being digging deeper and deeper holes for themselves, because they have been poorly-considered, badly funded signings, and the players who join are going backwards.

If you think we won't get bad press if we miss signing JAC you are delusional, the media will have a field day, lead by Creepy Crawly.
My point, the dogs who are a complete shambles sign players and we miss out, if that happens we are in for a rough ride for quite some time with the media.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but also, who cares? Really don't care what the media says about us, it's very separate to actually playing football.
 
@joebob said in [JAC](/post/1250215) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1249859) said:
@Everything-WT said in [JAC](/post/1249852) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1249835) said:
Here's the latest with JAC:

1. He's accepted the offer put forward to him from the Tigers (Best $$ wise compared to others)
2. Fullback bonuses included, (If he makes FB his own the deal would average out to $675,000 P.A)
3. 4 year deal starting in 2022 there ready to sign Nov 1 if deal with Melbourne not reached before.
4.Would be a lie to say if the club wasn't nervous that during this delay there are others trying to get in through the back door. Melbourne don't appear keen on James Roberts & Souths don't have the $$ to match our offer even with Lowes retirement.
5. No idea where Bulldogs name came up into this, no formal talks/offers presented last check.

Cheers mate. Any other possible signings you can mention?

No world beaters, currently depends on 3 things, JAC, Harry & if we can move along the big $$.
On a serious note Packer is still expressing mild headaches due to the last concussion.

So we are actually in with a chance to keep Harry?

Not according to Harry tonight.
 
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1250208) said:
@The_Patriot said in [JAC](/post/1250095) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1250093) said:
@clontarfkid said in [JAC](/post/1250087) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1250064) said:
@diedpretty said in [JAC](/post/1250061) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [JAC](/post/1250033) said:
It is worth noting that the Cleary did not rate DWZ and the group also did not like him. Barret is coming straight from Penrith, so he would be well up to speed on the reasons Penrith wanted him gone.

One thing other clubs do MUCH better than us with players they want to move on is they basically tell them "you will be in state cup for years". Look at Ricky Stuart, who has openly said he threatens players with years of meaningless footy.

We really should be a lot of tougher...we have told so many players they are not wanted the past couple of years, but they all stay in the squad.

So, Dogs will likely be ruthless with this. I can't see them getting JAC unless DWZ is offloaded. Let's hope no one bites.

Jason Taylor got hammered for that when he suggested Robbie would be in reggies because he was trying to get rid of him. So its ok if its a player who everyone dislikes but if its a player who is cuasing problems and is on big money but the fans like him then we will sack the coach.

Wasn't Farah the Origin hooker at the time? It's a bit rough to be dropped in that scenario.

Farah was indeed origin hooker,but that didnt entitle him to run the entire club and in doing so shaft yet another coach who wants to do things their way
Exactly the same goes for self entitled Benji.Just doesnt get it.
The results on the board of players running the club for the past decade or so have been less than stellar,so lets try allowing a premiership winning coach to run the joint
...and Benji can walk on his own eggshells in the transit lounge.

The fetters of tyranny. That JT era lost the WTs many good young players. I have no doubt we are just now recovering from thst disastrous appointment.



No we have a fair way to go to recover from that mistake.

Then cleary had his go and destroyed the salary cap and roster even more.

Its a long slow recovery.


Yet the people or person who hired Taylor and Cleary and oversaw their reign are still here. But we expect better results.

Cleary 's tenure cannot be blamed on the WTs. We had some good performances under him but he chose to do what he did.
 
@OldMagpie said in [JAC](/post/1250166) said:
i have been informed that JAC has signed a "heads of agreement" with us. It's a good start but not a contract yet.

Storm would have to release him from his existing contract before he could sign a new contact?
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1250266) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1250208) said:
@The_Patriot said in [JAC](/post/1250095) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1250093) said:
@clontarfkid said in [JAC](/post/1250087) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1250064) said:
@diedpretty said in [JAC](/post/1250061) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [JAC](/post/1250033) said:
It is worth noting that the Cleary did not rate DWZ and the group also did not like him. Barret is coming straight from Penrith, so he would be well up to speed on the reasons Penrith wanted him gone.

One thing other clubs do MUCH better than us with players they want to move on is they basically tell them "you will be in state cup for years". Look at Ricky Stuart, who has openly said he threatens players with years of meaningless footy.

We really should be a lot of tougher...we have told so many players they are not wanted the past couple of years, but they all stay in the squad.

So, Dogs will likely be ruthless with this. I can't see them getting JAC unless DWZ is offloaded. Let's hope no one bites.

Jason Taylor got hammered for that when he suggested Robbie would be in reggies because he was trying to get rid of him. So its ok if its a player who everyone dislikes but if its a player who is cuasing problems and is on big money but the fans like him then we will sack the coach.

Wasn't Farah the Origin hooker at the time? It's a bit rough to be dropped in that scenario.

Farah was indeed origin hooker,but that didnt entitle him to run the entire club and in doing so shaft yet another coach who wants to do things their way
Exactly the same goes for self entitled Benji.Just doesnt get it.
The results on the board of players running the club for the past decade or so have been less than stellar,so lets try allowing a premiership winning coach to run the joint
...and Benji can walk on his own eggshells in the transit lounge.

The fetters of tyranny. That JT era lost the WTs many good young players. I have no doubt we are just now recovering from thst disastrous appointment.



No we have a fair way to go to recover from that mistake.

Then cleary had his go and destroyed the salary cap and roster even more.

Its a long slow recovery.


Yet the people or person who hired Taylor and Cleary and oversaw their reign are still here. But we expect better results.

Cleary 's tenure cannot be blamed on the WTs. We had some good performances under him but he chose to do what he did.


We lost 3 of the “Big 4”, finally had Cap Space and we dug a hole that 3 years later were still trying to crawl out of. If the same people appoint Coach’s and Recruitment staff that acted poorly, are they not accountable?
 
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1250272) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1250266) said:
@tiga4eva said in [JAC](/post/1250208) said:
@The_Patriot said in [JAC](/post/1250095) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1250093) said:
@clontarfkid said in [JAC](/post/1250087) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [JAC](/post/1250064) said:
@diedpretty said in [JAC](/post/1250061) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [JAC](/post/1250033) said:
It is worth noting that the Cleary did not rate DWZ and the group also did not like him. Barret is coming straight from Penrith, so he would be well up to speed on the reasons Penrith wanted him gone.

One thing other clubs do MUCH better than us with players they want to move on is they basically tell them "you will be in state cup for years". Look at Ricky Stuart, who has openly said he threatens players with years of meaningless footy.

We really should be a lot of tougher...we have told so many players they are not wanted the past couple of years, but they all stay in the squad.

So, Dogs will likely be ruthless with this. I can't see them getting JAC unless DWZ is offloaded. Let's hope no one bites.

Jason Taylor got hammered for that when he suggested Robbie would be in reggies because he was trying to get rid of him. So its ok if its a player who everyone dislikes but if its a player who is cuasing problems and is on big money but the fans like him then we will sack the coach.

Wasn't Farah the Origin hooker at the time? It's a bit rough to be dropped in that scenario.

Farah was indeed origin hooker,but that didnt entitle him to run the entire club and in doing so shaft yet another coach who wants to do things their way
Exactly the same goes for self entitled Benji.Just doesnt get it.
The results on the board of players running the club for the past decade or so have been less than stellar,so lets try allowing a premiership winning coach to run the joint
...and Benji can walk on his own eggshells in the transit lounge.

The fetters of tyranny. That JT era lost the WTs many good young players. I have no doubt we are just now recovering from thst disastrous appointment.



No we have a fair way to go to recover from that mistake.

Then cleary had his go and destroyed the salary cap and roster even more.

Its a long slow recovery.


Yet the people or person who hired Taylor and Cleary and oversaw their reign are still here. But we expect better results.

Cleary 's tenure cannot be blamed on the WTs. We had some good performances under him but he chose to do what he did.


We lost 3 of the “Big 4”, finally had Cap Space and we dug a hole that 3 years later were still trying to crawl out of. If the same people appoint Coach’s and Recruitment staff that acted poorly, are they not accountable?

We seem to have moved on and the improvements to recruitment and retention are promising. We'll have to wait to see post 1 Nov to see if these changes will be reflected in strategic signings and subsequent top 8 finish.
 
@WswWt said in [JAC](/post/1250178) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [JAC](/post/1250173) said:
@OldMagpie said in [JAC](/post/1250172) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [JAC](/post/1250170) said:
@OldMagpie said in [JAC](/post/1250166) said:
i have been informed that JAC has signed a "heads of agreement" with us. It's a good start but not a contract yet.

What the hell’s that

Google ' heads of agreement'

Nah

Man you’re miserable


I follow Wests Tigers. What do you expect?
 
I don't know if this changes the plot but I do have some ties with some parts of Wests Tigers (working for Wests League Ashfield since 2000) and have received a good sign from Simon Cook (man who stepped in during Pascoe's absence) that JAC will be signed. No further context but this was quite recent (2 days ago). Buzz's publication is completely foo foo.
 
@arfi26 said in [JAC](/post/1250324) said:
I don't know if this changes the plot but I do have some ties with some parts of Wests Tigers (working for Wests League Ashfield since 2000) and have received a good sign from Simon Cook (man who stepped in during Pascoe's absence) that JAC will be signed. No further context but this was quite recent (2 days ago). Buzz's publication is completely foo foo.

Good to see the thread (after being hi-jacked) back on what it supposed to be about. Good on-ya!
 
@colinbh said in [JAC](/post/1250265) said:
@joebob said in [JAC](/post/1250215) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1249859) said:
@Everything-WT said in [JAC](/post/1249852) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1249835) said:
Here's the latest with JAC:

1. He's accepted the offer put forward to him from the Tigers (Best $$ wise compared to others)
2. Fullback bonuses included, (If he makes FB his own the deal would average out to $675,000 P.A)
3. 4 year deal starting in 2022 there ready to sign Nov 1 if deal with Melbourne not reached before.
4.Would be a lie to say if the club wasn't nervous that during this delay there are others trying to get in through the back door. Melbourne don't appear keen on James Roberts & Souths don't have the $$ to match our offer even with Lowes retirement.
5. No idea where Bulldogs name came up into this, no formal talks/offers presented last check.

Cheers mate. Any other possible signings you can mention?

No world beaters, currently depends on 3 things, JAC, Harry & if we can move along the big $$.
On a serious note Packer is still expressing mild headaches due to the last concussion.

So we are actually in with a chance to keep Harry?

Not according to Harry tonight.

What did Harry say?
 
@Cairnstigers said in [JAC](/post/1250204) said:
@diedpretty said in [JAC](/post/1250076) said:
@tiger05premier said in [JAC](/post/1250074) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [JAC](/post/1250072) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [JAC](/post/1249901) said:
@Newtown said in [JAC](/post/1249899) said:
NineSportNRL
19.10.2020

Bulldogs reportedly in box seat to sign Storm grand final winger Josh Addo-Carr


The Bulldogs have become favourites to sign Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr, a new report says.

The Daily Telegraph reported that Addo-Carr was a big chance to play for a grand final opponent next season, with Panthers assistant Trent Barrett taking over as Canterbury head coach. Addo-Carr, the NSW Origin and Australian Test winger, is a Barrett fan.

Addo-Carr is seeking a move back to Sydney for family reasons. The Rabbitohs and Wests Tigers are also in the mix for his signature.

It has been reported that he wants to play fullback; it is unclear what position he may play at the Bulldogs. The struggling club has already signed Canberra winger Nick Cotric for next season, though he could play in the centres.

The Storm granted Addo-Carr a release on the proviso that it gained a comparable player in return from his new club. That sticking point will need to be worked out in the ongoing negotiations.
Storm winger Josh Addo-Carr in action during his team's preliminary final win over Canberra. (Getty)

Addo-Carr is leaving all negotiations to his management, aiming to enjoy a winning farewell with Melbourne in the looming grand final.

"I made the decision to put all that stuff behind me and really focus on the finals series," he told The Sunday Footy Show.

"My manager and the Melbourne Storm are really working their backsides off to get this deal


What this report says to me (particularly with the Pom news) is that the Tigers have made the right offer, sounds about right. If the Dogs drop out of the clouds and poach him it is ONLY about $$$ and the Tigers are right and doing the right thing letting it go.

Wont stop a lot of hand wringing here about how terrible we are because we let another one slip, but at the end of the day, to me , the club is going about this in a professional manner.

Professional gets you nowhere in this league.

First: Panthers - numerous sex and Covid scandals last 18 months, poached a coach under contract
Second: Storm - systematic cheats, stripped of titles
Third: Eels -systematic cheats, stripped of premiership points
Fourth: Roosters - nothing to see there

Can we try unprofessional?

We are unprofessional

We just suck at it

11th - Wests Tigers - salary cap punishment for trying unsuccesfully to cheat the cap.

explain how we benefited from this
By paying RF $600,000 out of our cap to play for souths
By re signing him 18 months later
By offering him a job he never took
Or by having our cap reduced by $640,000 over two years
All for a hooker who's time was up
Oh and throw in the fact our CEO was band from performing his job for 6 months
There seems to be two standards in this league
One for Wests Tigers
And one for the rest


Hey i agree with you - i only put it out there as a poster suggested we needed to be more like the cheats of the NRL. Bit of tongue in cheek reference to the fact we have been done for cheating.
 
@frullens said in [JAC](/post/1250336) said:
@colinbh said in [JAC](/post/1250265) said:
@joebob said in [JAC](/post/1250215) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1249859) said:
@Everything-WT said in [JAC](/post/1249852) said:
@THE_POM said in [JAC](/post/1249835) said:
Here's the latest with JAC:

1. He's accepted the offer put forward to him from the Tigers (Best $$ wise compared to others)
2. Fullback bonuses included, (If he makes FB his own the deal would average out to $675,000 P.A)
3. 4 year deal starting in 2022 there ready to sign Nov 1 if deal with Melbourne not reached before.
4.Would be a lie to say if the club wasn't nervous that during this delay there are others trying to get in through the back door. Melbourne don't appear keen on James Roberts & Souths don't have the $$ to match our offer even with Lowes retirement.
5. No idea where Bulldogs name came up into this, no formal talks/offers presented last check.

Cheers mate. Any other possible signings you can mention?

No world beaters, currently depends on 3 things, JAC, Harry & if we can move along the big $$.
On a serious note Packer is still expressing mild headaches due to the last concussion.

So we are actually in with a chance to keep Harry?

Not according to Harry tonight.

What did Harry say?

Going to Melbourne ...which is what he has continually said for a fair while now
 

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