JAC

[Tiger5150]

In the entire backline and spine, ***the only sure picks are***
2. Noff
7. Brooks
9. Liddle

7 is already coming off his worst season ever and No.9 still hasn't been able to put half a dozen decent consecutive games in 3-4 years?

JAC is only a small piece of the puzzle. Decisions need to be made before the pre-season at least about who is gonna train where. With the game becoming more and more specialised, training at fb/centre/wing/half is all different requirements.

Surely AD is a sure pick, his position may be up for discussion but he is there somewhere.

 

[tig_prmz]

In the entire backline and spine, ***the only sure picks are***
2. Noff
7. Brooks
9. Liddle

7 is already coming off his worst season ever and No.9 still hasn't been able to put half a dozen decent consecutive games in 3-4 years?

JAC is only a small piece of the puzzle. Decisions need to be made before the pre-season at least about who is gonna train where. With the game becoming more and more specialised, training at fb/centre/wing/half is all different requirements.

Surely AD is a sure pick, **his position may be up for discussion** but he is there somewhere.

thats the point. the fitness requirements at fb/centre/ 5/8 are all different.

If he's at fullback, he needs to work on his endurance, 5/8 and centre is about acceleration and power. These physical atttributes take months to develop

 

[mike]

JAC clocked 10.6 seconds over 100 metres at origin camp. He must be one of the fastest ever to play in the NRL.

Paps got 11.02 in comparison

Very quick indeed. Impressive. A bit surprised that Paps was slower.

Doesn't Papenhuyzen have a calf injury that ruled him out..

Not a bad time then for a guy on one leg.

 

[Tiger5150]

In the entire backline and spine, ***the only sure picks are***
2. Noff
7. Brooks
9. Liddle

7 is already coming off his worst season ever and No.9 still hasn't been able to put half a dozen decent consecutive games in 3-4 years?

JAC is only a small piece of the puzzle. Decisions need to be made before the pre-season at least about who is gonna train where. With the game becoming more and more specialised, training at fb/centre/wing/half is all different requirements.

Surely AD is a sure pick, **his position may be up for discussion** but he is there somewhere.

thats the point. the fitness requirements at fb/centre/ 5/8 are all different.

If he's at fullback, he needs to work on his endurance, 5/8 and centre is about acceleration and power. These physical atttributes take months to develop

Sure I dont disagree with you, but surely you have him somewhere 1-6?

FWIW I have him 4 or 6.

 

[cochise]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

Absolutely, you cannot expect loyalty from some players, and at the same time, treat the others as disposable goods!

 

[cochise]

In the entire backline and spine, ***the only sure picks are***
2. Noff
7. Brooks
9. Liddle

7 is already coming off his worst season ever and No.9 still hasn't been able to put half a dozen decent consecutive games in 3-4 years?

JAC is only a small piece of the puzzle. Decisions need to be made before the pre-season at least about who is gonna train where. With the game becoming more and more specialised, training at fb/centre/wing/half is all different requirements.

Surely AD is a sure pick, his position may be up for discussion but he is there somewhere.

I hope to see him at 6 in the trials, I'm still not sure if he is a 5/8th or centre.

 

[JD Tiger]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

Agree. Remember with Manly when they let Glenn Stewart go towards the end of his career. It destroyed them, the players lost faith in the club. Same thing happened to us when we threatened to dump Robbie to reserves. Implosions.

 

[JC99]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

I’m not happy to let Nofa go. That’s a trade I wouldn’t make, getting rid of one class winger for another isn’t worth it.

 

[cochise]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

I’m not happy to let Nofa go. That’s a trade I wouldn’t make, getting rid of one class winger for another isn’t worth it.

Ok, Paws wants Nofa gone and you want Talau. I got mixed up lol

 

[JC99]

JAC clocked 10.6 seconds over 100 metres at origin camp. He must be one of the fastest ever to play in the NRL.

Paps got 11.02 in comparison

Very quick indeed. Impressive. A bit surprised that Paps was slower.


That is obviously over 100m. Footy, although played on 100m long field is all about 10m-20m bursts. Wouldnt be surprised if Paps was quicker over 10-40m.

In the first game this year against Melbourne when Paps scored that long range try against us, I was blown away with his speed off the mark. I cant remember who was defending but there were two Tigers in front of him, not a gap, both able to get a shoulder to him and he was through them before they could think. Blown away.

That’s what makes teddy so good, over 100 metres he is good but over 20-40 metres he’s impossible to grab a hold of. Both JAC and Paps can turn it on over short distance but Paps is probably faster in that regard

 

[JC99]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

I’m not happy to let Nofa go. That’s a trade I wouldn’t make, getting rid of one class winger for another isn’t worth it.

Ok, Paws wants Nofa gone and you want Talau. I got mixed up lol

Can’t blame ya for that ?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

Loyalty works both ways. Nofoaluma has been well paid for what he has delivered prior to this year. Even this year, his attack has been great but his defence was not what you expect of an NRL winger. Defence wins games.

 

[cochise]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

Loyalty works both ways. Nofoaluma has been well paid for what he has delivered prior to this year. Even this year, his attack has been great but his defence was not what you expect of an NRL winger. Defence wins games.

Telling a player mid contract he can go elsewhere is not loyalty, no matter what he was paid, especially when you are talking about a guy who seems to believe in and is commited to the club.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

I’m not happy to let Nofa go. That’s a trade I wouldn’t make, getting rid of one class winger for another isn’t worth it.

You don't believe the Club can produce another NRL winger? I believe we can and I have watched him.

 

[cochise]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

Loyalty works both ways. Nofoaluma has been well paid for what he has delivered prior to this year. Even this year, his attack has been great but his defence was not what you expect of an NRL winger. Defence wins games.

I guess you can't complain about how Matterson, Moses or Cleary left the club then.

 

[JC99]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

I’m not happy to let Nofa go. That’s a trade I wouldn’t make, getting rid of one class winger for another isn’t worth it.

You don't believe the Club can produce another NRL winger? I believe we can and I have watched him.

I’m sure we could but my motivation for getting JAC is improving the team right now. Talau for JAC improves our team a lot right now, Nofa for JAC not so much.

 

[JC99]

Speaking of loyalty I don’t see Penrith getting dragged by the media for what they’re doing to Mansour. We got roasted for wanting to dump Packer and Reynolds, but Penrith want to dump a guy who’s played well and rejected a bigger offer to stay there, who’s not even on huge money and not a whisper from the journos.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I’ve been told the deal is dead in the water. He will go back to the Storm and sign with the Rabbits in 2021.

No one to blame but management for that one. If we can’t land a big signing in 2022 we are screwed


Please explain how you come to that conclusion, with actual verifiable information.

He gave us a heads of agreement apparently, ready to come here all we needed to do was make a deal with Melbourne. We refuse, he stays at Melbourne or goes somewhere else and he never plays for us. It’s us that refused to play ball

We just did what the Storm and Roosters have been doing for years. Held our ground.

We offerer him the fullback spot. If hes not interested than so be it.

He was interested?!!!!! We couldn’t get the deal done? Roosters are ruthless they would’ve given Melbourne a rookie if they wanted JAC. Look what they did to Pearce and Flanagan

If he was interested he would have signed mate, simple.

Erm he needs a release champ. Pretty simple buddy. He can’t sign when he’s contracted ?

If Melbourne wanted Lucy or Doueihi, you'd let them go for a winger?

They want an outside back. I wouldn’t be against giving them Doueihi, it would be a massive upgrade.

You are blinded by the need for a Marquee player - unfortunately JAC is not Marquee.

He is just a fast winger - that how it's playing out, doesn't want to come here.

You've gone off your head if you would trade AD.

And you are blinded by your love your Tigers players, you’re the person who wouldn’t swap Liddle for Grant ?

Doueihi is a solid player I like him, JAC is 5 times the player he is right now. It’s simple really who makes our squad better and it’s an easy answer. If you think he’s just a fast winger then you clearly haven’t watched much of him the last two years.

I've watched plenty of him Josh - he is just a fast winger - improved over the past year yes but still not a Marquee player.
The term Marquee Player is used to describe a terrific player in our game, that the opposition fear may rip them to shreads, every time they pull on a boot. Players like Johns, Fittler, Turbo, Teddy, Munster, Smith etc.

Marquee is a word used far to often to describe a good player but much further levels down the list. Hell I've heard it used to describe Moses, Walker and even Pearce. It has almost lost the meaning of the word Marquee.

My love for the Tigers players stems from the fact that people like Liddle, Talau, AD and Noffo have signed with us in good faith to play for us, to bleed for us and are loyal to us. You on the other hand couldn't care less obviously, about any of that... "I want JAC and I don't care who I trade, what their hopes and dreams are, how that affects their lives....trade them, they mean nothing, they are just players that are expendable." (What is expendable Rambo), How sad!!!!

Can just see you coming back with..."loyalty means nothing these days," RL is a business. Probably, but maybe that is what is wrong with the game these days and in fact what is wrong with the world.

Maybe I am a dinosaur for thinking loyalty has a part in the 21st century... I prefer to hold a few of the old values that made RL "The Greatest Game of All" and made the world a good place to live in. That is my standard, I'm a loyal person, I will always (as well as to many other things) be loyal to the Tigers.

If you choose to be a Dorian Gray that is your choice..... enjoy the picture you are painting.

You think people don’t fear playing against JAC? He is one of the most dangerous players to play against in the world right now. He easily fits into the marquee category.

I can understand your feelings about loyalty but you answered it yourself, it’s all business nowadays. You got no where being loyal you win premierships by having the best players and coaches no matter what it takes. I want my club to win not just continue to play players big money for winning nothing

Hate to break it to you, half of our players would most likely leave if offered better money at a better club. Loyalty is dead not only with the clubs but with players themselves. They only have 10 years to play they need to make as much money as they can.

I won’t rubbish you for your opinion bevaude you’re right loyalty is an amazing thing, I wish it existed like it did back in the day where players stayed at their local clubs all their career. Sad fact is you just can’t afford to do that as a club nowadays at least not for everyone. Good to have a few loyal guys you need to treasure those guys but you gotta be ruthless in modern footy

Noffa has been loyal, but you are happy to let him go. You generate loyalty by showing it, if as a club we don't show it then we will have many more issues like the Matterson, Moses and Cleary situations.

Loyalty works both ways. Nofoaluma has been well paid for what he has delivered prior to this year. Even this year, his attack has been great but his defence was not what you expect of an NRL winger. Defence wins games.

Telling a player mid contract he can go elsewhere is not loyalty, no matter what he was paid, especially when you are talking about a guy who seems to believe in and is commited to the club.

It wouldn't be easy but clearly JAC is a significant upgrade. Bennett had the tap on the shoulder to an art form, he did it with one of the greats, Lewis.

 

[hobbo1]

Do any of you lot have regular employment...?
Fairdinkum ...non stop all day 😂