JAC

[JayT]

Agree with letting him play at Storm his final year of contract and we keep all players. Losing someone good just for 1 earlier year of JAC seems crazy.

 

[Moh]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Love your work POM, needed this.

I'm also quite surprised at how on the money we've all been with what you shared being the most likely narrative. Souths aye...

 

[Moh]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

What about the player swap situation with Melbourne?

Yeah are Melbourne releasing him for this season?

Nothing coming from us going to Melbourne but they will get their replacement.
They aren't going to get their "like for like" but will get their next diamond in the rough to become the next best player.

Never bought into the like-for-like thing, no one was going to offer them a club favourite.

They're more than well-equipped to get players like Jennings to get their job done.

 

[Newtown]

Paul Crawley to emerge out of his bunker when the deal falls through - salivating as we speak.

That Crawly is so Creepy.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

What about the player swap situation with Melbourne?

Yeah are Melbourne releasing him for this season?

Nothing coming from us going to Melbourne but they will get their replacement.
They aren't going to get their "like for like" but will get their next diamond in the rough to become the next best player.

Is momorofski coming back. Was he talked about a trade for jac at all

 

[JC99]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

What about the player swap situation with Melbourne?

Yeah are Melbourne releasing him for this season?

Nothing coming from us going to Melbourne but they will get their replacement.
They aren't going to get their "like for like" but will get their next diamond in the rough to become the next best player.

Is momorofski coming back. Was he talked about a trade for jac at all

He’s coming back, listed on the tigers website as contracted for 2021 with a player option for 2022.

 

[TheDaBoss]

stop benji from being near the club and we take out the leak situation lol

 

[TrueTiger]

I still reckon the meeting on Thursday has been brought forward because of Souths off loading players and showing interest in JAC ...Souths probably thought he would join the brotherhood as a given and didnt think that we had it in us to script a HOA ..
My take on it is that Souths hoped to get JAC at slightly more than we offered and Rusty would do a Nick with the rest..
I hope we win out and JAC stays true to his word of compassionate family reasons and we held out a hand to get him back to Sydney....he will look terribly dishonourable to use the compassionate grounds if he only used them as an excuse..

Big thanks to Pom for the update...

 

[05TIGZZ]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Love your work POM, needed this.

I'm also quite surprised at how on the money we've all been with what you shared being the most likely narrative. Souths aye...

We will all find out on Thursday. If he really wants to come here and Melbourne are playing hardball then he should announce he has signed with us for 2022. If it’s silent after this Thursday meeting then there must be some truth in him not wanting to come here. I’m more nervous about Thursday then wednesdays SOO lol.

 

[JC99]

I still reckon the meeting on Thursday has been brought forward because of Souths off loading players and showing interest in JAC ...Souths probably thought he would join the brotherhood as a given and didnt think that we had it in us to script a HOA ..
My take on it is that Souths hoped to get JAC at slightly more than we offered and Rusty would do a Nick with the rest..
I hope we win out and JAC stays true to his word of compassionate family reasons and we held out a hand to get him back to Sydney....he will look terribly dishonourable to use the compassionate grounds if he only used them as an excuse..

Big thanks to Pom for the update...

Souths can’t afford him for 2021. If they want him it’s for 2022 like Pom said they don’t have room in their roster

 

[Guest]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.

That's the thing, throughout all the original negotiations the club received nothing but positivity from JAC camp & he was excited about "coming home" & helping bring success. The club was excited & just let the media speculate, but within the last 2 weeks & certain leaks to certain jurnos have rushed forward this meeting on Thursday.

You obviously have insight as to how some of these contract negotiations play out...The thing that I question is other clubs such as Souths who have chimed in promising things from 2022 onwards...have they stated how much they're willing to pay if they haven't offered a formal contract?

It's all smoke and mirrors if you get my drift. Obviously other clubs would love to sign JAC, but until they put an offer on the table, they can blow smoke all they want about salary etc and who is JAC, or anyone else to think otherwise?

 

[happy_tiger]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.

That's the thing, throughout all the original negotiations the club received nothing but positivity from JAC camp & he was excited about "coming home" & helping bring success. The club was excited & just let the media speculate, but within the last 2 weeks & certain leaks to certain jurnos have rushed forward this meeting on Thursday.

You obviously have insight as to how some of these contract negotiations play out...The thing that I question is other clubs such as Souths who have chimed in promising things from 2022 onwards...have they stated how much they're willing to pay if they haven't offered a formal contract?

It's all smoke and mirrors if you get my drift. Obviously other clubs would love to sign JAC, but until they put an offer on the table, they can blow smoke all they want about salary etc and who is JAC, or anyone else to think otherwise?

And you really don't know if JAC is using Souths to try and up his $$$'s from the WT's

 

[TrueTiger]

I still reckon the meeting on Thursday has been brought forward because of Souths off loading players and showing interest in JAC ...Souths probably thought he would join the brotherhood as a given and didnt think that we had it in us to script a HOA ..
My take on it is that Souths hoped to get JAC at slightly more than we offered and Rusty would do a Nick with the rest..
I hope we win out and JAC stays true to his word of compassionate family reasons and we held out a hand to get him back to Sydney....he will look terribly dishonourable to use the compassionate grounds if he only used them as an excuse..

Big thanks to Pom for the update...

Souths can’t afford him for 2021. If they want him it’s for 2022 like Pom said they don’t have room in their roster

I still reckon the meeting on Thursday has been brought forward because of Souths off loading players and showing interest in JAC ...Souths probably thought he would join the brotherhood as a given and didnt think that we had it in us to script a HOA ..
My take on it is that Souths hoped to get JAC at slightly more than we offered and Rusty would do a Nick with the rest..
I hope we win out and JAC stays true to his word of compassionate family reasons and we held out a hand to get him back to Sydney....he will look terribly dishonourable to use the compassionate grounds if he only used them as an excuse..

Big thanks to Pom for the update...

Souths can’t afford him for 2021. If they want him it’s for 2022 like Pom said they don’t have room in their roster

I understand that Josh,but I was mainly thinking of why he said compassionate grounds and wont be in Melb next year....but then says he could stay in Melb another year...sounds like he is waiting for Souths to muster more money...but I hope he does come to us next year...

 

[JC99]

I still reckon the meeting on Thursday has been brought forward because of Souths off loading players and showing interest in JAC ...Souths probably thought he would join the brotherhood as a given and didnt think that we had it in us to script a HOA ..
My take on it is that Souths hoped to get JAC at slightly more than we offered and Rusty would do a Nick with the rest..
I hope we win out and JAC stays true to his word of compassionate family reasons and we held out a hand to get him back to Sydney....he will look terribly dishonourable to use the compassionate grounds if he only used them as an excuse..

Big thanks to Pom for the update...

Souths can’t afford him for 2021. If they want him it’s for 2022 like Pom said they don’t have room in their roster

I still reckon the meeting on Thursday has been brought forward because of Souths off loading players and showing interest in JAC ...Souths probably thought he would join the brotherhood as a given and didnt think that we had it in us to script a HOA ..
My take on it is that Souths hoped to get JAC at slightly more than we offered and Rusty would do a Nick with the rest..
I hope we win out and JAC stays true to his word of compassionate family reasons and we held out a hand to get him back to Sydney....he will look terribly dishonourable to use the compassionate grounds if he only used them as an excuse..

Big thanks to Pom for the update...

Souths can’t afford him for 2021. If they want him it’s for 2022 like Pom said they don’t have room in their roster

I understand that Josh,but I was mainly thinking of why he said compassionate grounds and wont be in Melb next year....but then says he could stay in Melb another year...sounds like he is waiting for Souths to muster more money...but I hope he does come to us next year...

We don’t know how true that is. Wouldn’t make sense for him to backflip on it after being so public about wanting to head back to Sydney for family when other clubs can’t really afford him.

Guess on Thursday we might find out. Hopefully we can get some news about it Friday or over the weekend from the media or the Pom

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Solution make him Fullback and Captain.
Nil Performance incentives and up the original offer.

Headline this
Prodigal son returns
We wander for opportunities but we play for family.

In reality see the deal could go 50/50 lets see how our WT CEO/Coach/GM handle themselves with negotiations.
At least we will know by weeks end and we either Sign very good player or we miss out again and questions need to be asked why we cannot attract quality players.

 

[Speed2burn]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.

That's the thing, throughout all the original negotiations the club received nothing but positivity from JAC camp & he was excited about "coming home" & helping bring success. The club was excited & just let the media speculate, but within the last 2 weeks & certain leaks to certain jurnos have rushed forward this meeting on Thursday.

You obviously have insight as to how some of these contract negotiations play out...The thing that I question is other clubs such as Souths who have chimed in promising things from 2022 onwards...have they stated how much they're willing to pay if they haven't offered a formal contract?

It's all smoke and mirrors if you get my drift. Obviously other clubs would love to sign JAC, but until they put an offer on the table, they can blow smoke all they want about salary etc and who is JAC, or anyone else to think otherwise?

And you really don't know if JAC is using Souths to try and up his $$$'s from the WT's

I honestly reckon it’s this aswell

 

[Guest]

Thursday is ultimately D-Day for this whole situation. Addo-Carr's management jumped at the 4 year deal offered & thought it was honestly going to be the best deal $$ wise & also the length was just added security, but now there seems to be a few clubs (yes Rabbits) that have come in going we can offer you this much more but only from 2022, this is where the doubt it coming from, all stuff in the media is coming from his management. I have no doubt in my mind what so ever if the deal was revised & money was raised the headlines would change & he will be a Tiger in 2021.
I think he knows how much his reputation would suffer if he decided to stay in Melbourne considering the whole song & dance being made about him waiting to leave for family reasons.

Do you think we will revise our deal in order to get him for 2021?

Yes but will depend on exactly how much more $$ will be required to get him over the line.
There's also the principle fact he agreed to the original deal & now wants to change it.

Potentially a rock and a hard place situation - up the offer and all players know play hardball and the club will fold - not a good signal.
Don't up the offer and we don't get him - media all over the club for being no-hopers, low-balling, unattractive and militant.
If the HOA has legs legally I'm sure the club reminds him of that. As written above, he will lose a lot of cred if he stays in Melbourne - not that it would probably worry him.
At the end of the day, I would prefer someone who wants to be here. Hopefully, he does.

That's the thing, throughout all the original negotiations the club received nothing but positivity from JAC camp & he was excited about "coming home" & helping bring success. The club was excited & just let the media speculate, but within the last 2 weeks & certain leaks to certain jurnos have rushed forward this meeting on Thursday.

You obviously have insight as to how some of these contract negotiations play out...The thing that I question is other clubs such as Souths who have chimed in promising things from 2022 onwards...have they stated how much they're willing to pay if they haven't offered a formal contract?

It's all smoke and mirrors if you get my drift. Obviously other clubs would love to sign JAC, but until they put an offer on the table, they can blow smoke all they want about salary etc and who is JAC, or anyone else to think otherwise?

And you really don't know if JAC is using Souths to try and up his $$$'s from the WT's

That's the question mate! Souths can spin it any way they want at the moment...we'll offer you this, that etc. but have hey got a firm offer on the table? The interest only serves to drive the WT price up IMO. Now it's a bit hard for JAC who says he wants to do what's best for his family - staying in Melbourne isn't an option if he is to be believed and at 300k, Melbourne have him for a steal. If he accepts WT offer, he's got a big payrise and did it for his family...if he knocks back the WT offer to stay in Melbourne, well it's not really about family then is it?

 

[Curaeus]

Maybe we could offer him another year on the same money offered (increase from 4 to 5 years) conditional upon him starting with us in 2021 when it appears at least some of our competition have no cap room to fit him in.

 

[WT2K]

Nice to open the thread and get some news on where things stand.

 

[twentyforty]

Full credit to JAC, he has given us nothing. His manager has obviously given him a scripted message to repeat, regardless of media questions and he has stayed solid on that allowing his manager to squeeze the most into the contract.
Bellamy’s request for a like for like player has been a clever move. It’s certainly put everyone’s mind on the job of solving his problem, if he ever had one?