OFFICIAL James Tamou [Discussion]

[happy_tiger]

On Tamou's efforts last night, we'd have been better off keeping Huth. Same player, just cheaper.
Having said that, I have no idea about his leadership qualities, but most seem to think him an excellent captain. At any rate, 2 years ain't too onerous. (Well, not compared to Packer/Reynolds/McQueen et al).

The Fact we have signed the Captain of the team that won the Minor Premiership and is likely to win the premiership will go a long way to Signing up other top line players
I think it was a very smart move
Its a little like when we signed Todd Payten

If only he also had half the skill of Payten.

He’s a lot better than Payten.

Don’t see that myself

Tamou has played for Australia and NSW. Payten wasn’t even in the discussion for origin at any point. That says it all.

Maybe because he was in the team that won the comp, people’s memories fade.

I remember him being highly sort after out of Canberra , before signing for big dollars at the roosters and struggling for form and fitness . His name definitely was thrown up in the origin conversation .

Early on he had huge wraps from Erindale College ...he didn't quite live up to the wraps

 

[GNR4LIFE]

On Tamou's efforts last night, we'd have been better off keeping Huth. Same player, just cheaper.
Having said that, I have no idea about his leadership qualities, but most seem to think him an excellent captain. At any rate, 2 years ain't too onerous. (Well, not compared to Packer/Reynolds/McQueen et al).

The Fact we have signed the Captain of the team that won the Minor Premiership and is likely to win the premiership will go a long way to Signing up other top line players
I think it was a very smart move
Its a little like when we signed Todd Payten

If only he also had half the skill of Payten.

He’s a lot better than Payten.

Don’t see that myself

Tamou has played for Australia and NSW. Payten wasn’t even in the discussion for origin at any point. That says it all.

Maybe because he was in the team that won the comp, people’s memories fade.

Why do people keep bringing up past accolades to justify recruitment? Today he's a plodder, don't buy him.

Yep, starting prop and captain of the best team in the comp, has lost ONE game all year. Definitely a plodder.

I’m not going to bother arguing this one any further.

He’s good enough to lead the best team in the comp who have lost one game all year, who wanted to keep him beyond this season. Not good enough for us though. Us with our decade long finals drought. We stick our noses up at potential premiership winning captains.

 

[hobbo1]

On Tamou's efforts last night, we'd have been better off keeping Huth. Same player, just cheaper.
Having said that, I have no idea about his leadership qualities, but most seem to think him an excellent captain. At any rate, 2 years ain't too onerous. (Well, not compared to Packer/Reynolds/McQueen et al).

The Fact we have signed the Captain of the team that won the Minor Premiership and is likely to win the premiership will go a long way to Signing up other top line players
I think it was a very smart move
Its a little like when we signed Todd Payten

If only he also had half the skill of Payten.

He’s a lot better than Payten.

Don’t see that myself

Tamou has played for Australia and NSW. Payten wasn’t even in the discussion for origin at any point. That says it all.

Maybe because he was in the team that won the comp, people’s memories fade.

Why do people keep bringing up past accolades to justify recruitment? Today he's a plodder, don't buy him.

Yep, starting prop and captain of the best team in the comp, has lost ONE game all year. Definitely a plodder.

I’m not going to bother arguing this one any further.

He’s good enough to lead the best team in the comp who have lost one game all year, who wanted to keep him beyond this season. Not good enough for us though. Us with our decade long finals drought. We stick our noses up at potential premiership winning captains.

Ivan’s giving him his last Hoo rah ...

Panthers offered him ONE year as a token gesture

We were dumb enough to give him TWO years

Clutching much ?

Plodder

 

[JC99]

He’ll always be labelled a plodder, that’s just how he plays. Doesn’t mean he’s bad he’ll do the 1% stuff, tough carries, work hard to make his tackles, find his front.

The big question is how will he hold up in a much weaker team. His experience will be invaluable but more important is how he goes on the field. I don’t think he will provide the same stats he has this year which is my worry but hopefully he gets us a good 100 metres or more a game.

At least we know he’s a hard worker. He won’t slack off that’s for sure

 

[Deleted member 3518]

On Tamou's efforts last night, we'd have been better off keeping Huth. Same player, just cheaper.
Having said that, I have no idea about his leadership qualities, but most seem to think him an excellent captain. At any rate, 2 years ain't too onerous. (Well, not compared to Packer/Reynolds/McQueen et al).

The Fact we have signed the Captain of the team that won the Minor Premiership and is likely to win the premiership will go a long way to Signing up other top line players
I think it was a very smart move
Its a little like when we signed Todd Payten

If only he also had half the skill of Payten.

He’s a lot better than Payten.

Don’t see that myself

Tamou has played for Australia and NSW. Payten wasn’t even in the discussion for origin at any point. That says it all.

Maybe because he was in the team that won the comp, people’s memories fade.

I remember him being highly sort after out of Canberra , before signing for big dollars at the roosters and struggling for form and fitness . His name definitely was thrown up in the origin conversation .

Early on he had huge wraps from Erindale College ...he didn't quite live up to the wraps

Yea I remember the roosters paying heaps for him , but couldn’t get him in the field ,then we got him on the cheap. Pretty good business from Shannon mcdonnells dad.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

On Tamou's efforts last night, we'd have been better off keeping Huth. Same player, just cheaper.
Having said that, I have no idea about his leadership qualities, but most seem to think him an excellent captain. At any rate, 2 years ain't too onerous. (Well, not compared to Packer/Reynolds/McQueen et al).

The Fact we have signed the Captain of the team that won the Minor Premiership and is likely to win the premiership will go a long way to Signing up other top line players
I think it was a very smart move
Its a little like when we signed Todd Payten

If only he also had half the skill of Payten.

He’s a lot better than Payten.

Don’t see that myself

Tamou has played for Australia and NSW. Payten wasn’t even in the discussion for origin at any point. That says it all.

Maybe because he was in the team that won the comp, people’s memories fade.

Why do people keep bringing up past accolades to justify recruitment? Today he's a plodder, don't buy him.

Yep, starting prop and captain of the best team in the comp, has lost ONE game all year. Definitely a plodder.

I’m not going to bother arguing this one any further.

He’s good enough to lead the best team in the comp who have lost one game all year, who wanted to keep him beyond this season. Not good enough for us though. Us with our decade long finals drought. We stick our noses up at potential premiership winning captains.

Ivan’s giving him his last Hoo rah ...

Panthers offered him ONE year as a token gesture

We were dumb enough to give him TWO years

Clutching much ?

Plodder

OMG 2 years. The humanity. The Raiders signed Ryan James. Could only imagine what you’d have said if that were us.

 

[Russell]

On Tamou's efforts last night, we'd have been better off keeping Huth. Same player, just cheaper.
Having said that, I have no idea about his leadership qualities, but most seem to think him an excellent captain. At any rate, 2 years ain't too onerous. (Well, not compared to Packer/Reynolds/McQueen et al).

The Fact we have signed the Captain of the team that won the Minor Premiership and is likely to win the premiership will go a long way to Signing up other top line players
I think it was a very smart move
Its a little like when we signed Todd Payten

If only he also had half the skill of Payten.

He’s a lot better than Payten.

Don’t see that myself

Tamou has played for Australia and NSW. Payten wasn’t even in the discussion for origin at any point. That says it all.

Maybe because he was in the team that won the comp, people’s memories fade.

Why do people keep bringing up past accolades to justify recruitment? Today he's a plodder, don't buy him.

Yep, starting prop and captain of the best team in the comp, has lost ONE game all year. Definitely a plodder.

I’m not going to bother arguing this one any further.

He’s good enough to lead the best team in the comp who have lost one game all year, who wanted to keep him beyond this season. Not good enough for us though. Us with our decade long finals drought. We stick our noses up at potential premiership winning captains.

Ivan’s giving him his last Hoo rah ...

Panthers offered him ONE year as a token gesture

We were dumb enough to give him TWO years

Clutching much ?

Plodder

OMG 2 years. The humanity. The Raiders signed Ryan James. Could only imagine what you’d have said if that were us.

He'd say he's a plodder - everyone is a plodder to ol' mate Hobbo. Lol

 

[Russell]

On Tamou's efforts last night, we'd have been better off keeping Huth. Same player, just cheaper.
Having said that, I have no idea about his leadership qualities, but most seem to think him an excellent captain. At any rate, 2 years ain't too onerous. (Well, not compared to Packer/Reynolds/McQueen et al).

The Fact we have signed the Captain of the team that won the Minor Premiership and is likely to win the premiership will go a long way to Signing up other top line players
I think it was a very smart move
Its a little like when we signed Todd Payten

If only he also had half the skill of Payten.

He’s a lot better than Payten.

Don’t see that myself

Tamou has played for Australia and NSW. Payten wasn’t even in the discussion for origin at any point. That says it all.

Maybe because he was in the team that won the comp, people’s memories fade.

Why do people keep bringing up past accolades to justify recruitment? Today he's a plodder, don't buy him.

Yep, starting prop and captain of the best team in the comp, has lost ONE game all year. Definitely a plodder.

I’m not going to bother arguing this one any further.

He’s good enough to lead the best team in the comp who have lost one game all year, who wanted to keep him beyond this season. Not good enough for us though. Us with our decade long finals drought. We stick our noses up at potential premiership winning captains.

Ivan’s giving him his last Hoo rah ...

Panthers offered him ONE year as a token gesture

We were dumb enough to give him TWO years

Clutching much ?

Plodder

OMG 2 years. The humanity. The Raiders signed Ryan James. Could only imagine what you’d have said if that were us.

He'd say he's a plodder - everyone is a plodder to ol' mate Hobbo. Lol

Wait!...... I think there was someone mentioned in 1998 that wasn't a plodder, just a nuffie.

 

[yeti]

So, let's see - 60 run metres, 14 tackles, 10 hit ups. Looks pretty average to me.
Like I said, its not all about stats - leadership is important. However, they are not great statistics for a starting front rower, and when you are only on the field for about 40 minutes, how much leadership are you really providing?

 

[JC99]

So, let's see - 60 run metres, 14 tackles, 10 hit ups. Looks pretty average to me.
Like I said, its not all about stats - leadership is important. However, they are not great statistics for a starting front rower, and when you are only on the field for about 40 minutes, how much leadership are you really providing?

To be fair for the time he was on the field those are good stats for whatever reason he didn’t play much despite normally playing around twice as much as he did last week. When he’s out there he gets through a lot of work

 

[cochise]

So, let's see - 60 run metres, 14 tackles, 10 hit ups. Looks pretty average to me.
Like I said, its not all about stats - leadership is important. However, they are not great statistics for a starting front rower, and when you are only on the field for about 40 minutes, how much leadership are you really providing?

So you are basing your assessment on one game? Ill do that too
45 mins 20 Hitups 207 metres 37 tackles. Looks pretty good to me.

 

[happy_tiger]

On Tamou's efforts last night, we'd have been better off keeping Huth. Same player, just cheaper.
Having said that, I have no idea about his leadership qualities, but most seem to think him an excellent captain. At any rate, 2 years ain't too onerous. (Well, not compared to Packer/Reynolds/McQueen et al).

The Fact we have signed the Captain of the team that won the Minor Premiership and is likely to win the premiership will go a long way to Signing up other top line players
I think it was a very smart move
Its a little like when we signed Todd Payten

If only he also had half the skill of Payten.

He’s a lot better than Payten.

Don’t see that myself

Tamou has played for Australia and NSW. Payten wasn’t even in the discussion for origin at any point. That says it all.

Maybe because he was in the team that won the comp, people’s memories fade.

Why do people keep bringing up past accolades to justify recruitment? Today he's a plodder, don't buy him.

Yep, starting prop and captain of the best team in the comp, has lost ONE game all year. Definitely a plodder.

I’m not going to bother arguing this one any further.

He’s good enough to lead the best team in the comp who have lost one game all year, who wanted to keep him beyond this season. Not good enough for us though. Us with our decade long finals drought. We stick our noses up at potential premiership winning captains.

Ivan’s giving him his last Hoo rah ...

Panthers offered him ONE year as a token gesture

We were dumb enough to give him TWO years

Clutching much ?

Plodder

OMG 2 years. The humanity. The Raiders signed Ryan James. Could only imagine what you’d have said if that were us.

He'd say he's a plodder - everyone is a plodder to ol' mate Hobbo. Lol

Wait!...... I think there was someone mentioned in 1998 that wasn't a plodder, just a nuffie.

Yeah Brad Fittler I think it was

 

[yeti]

So, let's see - 60 run metres, 14 tackles, 10 hit ups. Looks pretty average to me.
Like I said, its not all about stats - leadership is important. However, they are not great statistics for a starting front rower, and when you are only on the field for about 40 minutes, how much leadership are you really providing?

So you are basing your assessment on one game?

No, I am not. My opinion is that he is a reasonable footballer at club level week in and week out. However, that's about his ceiling. He was absolutely woeful at SOO level, and his game on the weekend when the pace and toughness goes up a notch, was less than breathtaking. He has no second gear. The Wests Tigers may benefit some from his leadership off the field - from all reports he has that in spades. So that is a positive. However, I don't think he will add anything in terms of his effectiveness on the field over and above a couple of players that have been shown the door.
He's OK - that's it in my opinion.

 

[hobbo1]

So, let's see - 60 run metres, 14 tackles, 10 hit ups. Looks pretty average to me.
Like I said, its not all about stats - leadership is important. However, they are not great statistics for a starting front rower, and when you are only on the field for about 40 minutes, how much leadership are you really providing?

So you are basing your assessment on one game?

When the going gets tough he plods ...
he’ll fit right in amongst our plodders ..

When the Pamfers get on a roll players like Yeo, Fisher-Harris , Leota and Martin carry him .

Plodder

 

[cochise]

So, let's see - 60 run metres, 14 tackles, 10 hit ups. Looks pretty average to me.
Like I said, its not all about stats - leadership is important. However, they are not great statistics for a starting front rower, and when you are only on the field for about 40 minutes, how much leadership are you really providing?

So you are basing your assessment on one game?

No, I am not. My opinion is that he is a reasonable footballer at club level week in and week out. However, that's about his ceiling. He was absolutely woeful at SOO level, and his game on the weekend when the pace and toughness goes up a notch, was less than breathtaking. He has no second gear. The Wests Tigers may benefit some from his leadership off the field - from all reports he has that in spades. So that is a positive. However, I don't think he will add anything in terms of his effectiveness on the field over and above a couple of players that have been shown the door.
He's OK - that's it in my opinion.

Yet you used one games stats to prove that, that is just a stupid way to look at a footballer. 45 mins 20 Hitups 207 metres 37 tackles are his stats from another game.

 

[hobbo1]

On Tamou's efforts last night, we'd have been better off keeping Huth. Same player, just cheaper.
Having said that, I have no idea about his leadership qualities, but most seem to think him an excellent captain. At any rate, 2 years ain't too onerous. (Well, not compared to Packer/Reynolds/McQueen et al).

The Fact we have signed the Captain of the team that won the Minor Premiership and is likely to win the premiership will go a long way to Signing up other top line players
I think it was a very smart move
Its a little like when we signed Todd Payten

If only he also had half the skill of Payten.

He’s a lot better than Payten.

Don’t see that myself

Tamou has played for Australia and NSW. Payten wasn’t even in the discussion for origin at any point. That says it all.

Maybe because he was in the team that won the comp, people’s memories fade.

Why do people keep bringing up past accolades to justify recruitment? Today he's a plodder, don't buy him.

Yep, starting prop and captain of the best team in the comp, has lost ONE game all year. Definitely a plodder.

I’m not going to bother arguing this one any further.

He’s good enough to lead the best team in the comp who have lost one game all year, who wanted to keep him beyond this season. Not good enough for us though. Us with our decade long finals drought. We stick our noses up at potential premiership winning captains.

Ivan’s giving him his last Hoo rah ...

Panthers offered him ONE year as a token gesture

We were dumb enough to give him TWO years

Clutching much ?

Plodder

OMG 2 years. The humanity. The Raiders signed Ryan James. Could only imagine what you’d have said if that were us.

He'd say he's a plodder - everyone is a plodder to ol' mate Hobbo. Lol

Wait!...... I think there was someone mentioned in 1998 that wasn't a plodder, just a nuffie.

Yeah Brad Fittler I think it was

Freddys a space cadet

 

[yeti]

I am not trying to "prove' anything. I am stating my opinion - that's all. And yes, I used one game's statistics to give a little credence to that opinion. It was a big game. If he was as good a player as many on here appear to think,, they should have been better in a big game like a semi final.

 

[hobbo1]

The official West’s Tigers Forum Plodder Scale .. This week brought you by Kosciusko pale ale ..
This weeks feature player ...

James Tamou

Speed 4/5
Explosiveness 4/5
Ability 4/5
Experience/ number of games 2/5
Wrongness of head 5/5

Score 19/25

The higher the score the more effective ploddering ..

Result ....Plodder

 

[cochise]

I am not trying to "prove' anything. I am stating my opinion - that's all. And yes, I used one game's statistics to give a little credence to that opinion. It was a big game. If he was as good a player as many on here appear to think,, they should have been better in a big game like a semi final.

It gives no credence though, its a one off. He will probably go for more than 150 mtrs in the next game.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

He seems to be a well grounded individual with no off field indiscretions that have made the front page of the Australian. That has to be worth a tick.