OFFICIAL James Tamou [Discussion]

@rihannafan1 said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440084) said:
Is Hastings a smokey for a leadership role next season?

Too early to tell - wait for the offseason articles on how the pre-season has been the hardest they've ever done and who is leading the way.
 
He's in a moon boot at the moment.
Some one shared a video on his wife's IG and he looked busted.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440084) said:
Is Hastings a smokey for a leadership role next season?

No. We should never pick a captain again who is coming into the club. You need to earn that captaincy by performing at the Tigers.
 
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440711) said:
He's in a moon boot at the moment.
Some one shared a video on his wife's IG and he looked busted.

Which he?
Tamou or Hastings?
 
@dwight-schrute said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440722) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440711) said:
He's in a moon boot at the moment.
Some one shared a video on his wife's IG and he looked busted.

Which he?
Tamou or Hastings?

Tamooooo
 
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440723) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440722) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440711) said:
He's in a moon boot at the moment.
Some one shared a video on his wife's IG and he looked busted.

Which he?
Tamou or Hastings?

Tamooooo

Here we go.
Another never ending foot injury.
 
@dwight-schrute said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440726) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440723) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440722) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440711) said:
He's in a moon boot at the moment.
Some one shared a video on his wife's IG and he looked busted.

Which he?
Tamou or Hastings?

Tamooooo

Here we go.
Another never ending foot injury.

Medical retirement please.
 
@earl said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440720) said:
@rihannafan1 said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440084) said:
Is Hastings a smokey for a leadership role next season?

No. We should never pick a captain again who is coming into the club. You need to earn that captaincy by performing at the Tigers.

X2
 
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440729) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440726) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440723) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440722) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440711) said:
He's in a moon boot at the moment.
Some one shared a video on his wife's IG and he looked busted.

Which he?
Tamou or Hastings?

Tamooooo

Here we go.
Another never ending foot injury.

Medical retirement please.

I doubt we're that lucky.
 
@willow said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440849) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440729) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440726) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440723) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440722) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440711) said:
He's in a moon boot at the moment.
Some one shared a video on his wife's IG and he looked busted.

Which he?
Tamou or Hastings?

Tamooooo

Here we go.
Another never ending foot injury.

Medical retirement please.

I doubt we're that lucky.

Imagine we lose tamou,Packer and Mbye all at seasons end.
Only thing thatd make that better is if Nofo requested a release to the Eels or dogs.
 
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440729) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440726) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440723) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440722) said:
@demps said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440711) said:
He's in a moon boot at the moment.
Some one shared a video on his wife's IG and he looked busted.

Which he?
Tamou or Hastings?

Tamooooo

Here we go.
Another never ending foot injury.

Medical retirement please.

How about old age Pension.
 
Tamou isnt our reason for loosing games,

This is a squad attitude.

Terrible decisions and the team doesn't win the collision
 
@spartan117 said in [OFFICIAL: Wests Tigers sign James Tamou](/post/1440884) said:
Tamou isnt our reason for loosing games,

This is a squad attitude.

Terrible decisions and the team doesn't win the collision

The best captain in the world would have a tough task leading these blokes around,especially if you just spoke to them about being better disiplined and committed....
they then come out,drop balls,kick out on the full,play the ball with no d/h,kick a great 40/20 and then give up that gain by passing the ball a metre forward...and it goes on and on....
most of our blokes still need to mature and learn the system,thats half the problem,the other half is some are never going to be top NRL standard....
 
It'd be awesome to get rid of Tamou so we could replace him with someone else we could inevitably grow to hate and wish to replace and then replace them with someone else we could inevitably grow to hate and...
 
Found this on reddit- https://www.reddit.com/r/nrl/comments/p1facf/a_stats_dive_into_the_fall_of_james_tamou/

In late 2020, the Tigers signed prop James Tamou, who had just captained the Panthers to a minor premiership and a grand final. Wests saw him as a powerful forward to set an example for the young pack at the club.
Here are the 2020-1* splits for Tamou:
![3b293bc7-977f-4714-811e-c2292d828add-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1628769624680-3b293bc7-977f-4714-811e-c2292d828add-image.png) this is by round 21 2021

It’s clear that his power in attack (half as many metres and tackle breaks) and efficiency in defence (over triple the amount of missed tackles) have dropped significantly this year, while playing around 3 minutes less per game.

But it also shows that Tamou did have an impressive 2020 season. Barely any missed tackles would have been a major drawing card for a Tigers side consistently shown up in defence. His yardage was great for an interchange forward, with his metres-per-minute being the best for any prop in 2020. It wasn't a terrible signing at all, and most of the media and this sub was very happy with it. Something in Tamou's game has shifted dramatically this season.

Let’s look at his stats in comparison to other middle forwards for 2021:

![b8241f7c-8c1b-4a8c-a7f0-32f170877273-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1628769637715-b8241f7c-8c1b-4a8c-a7f0-32f170877273-image.png)


From an attacking standpoint, Tamou has been quieter this season than Dylan Napa and Aaron Woods. Yep. To be fair, he hasn't missed nearly as many tackles as them. But he still has almost double the missed tackles as his teammate Alex Twal.

Madge wants to create a professional environment with representative, premiership-winning players. Tamou has been all these things in the past. But it seems that he is just that - a “culture signing” - who has brought nothing on-field during the Tigers’ 2021 campaign. Is it a fitness issue? Is Madge playing him wrong? Was he just playing for a contract last year? Or is the club just cursed to ruin good players?
 
@thedaboss said in [The Fall Of James Tamou](/post/1442792) said:
Found this on reddit- https://www.reddit.com/r/nrl/comments/p1facf/a_stats_dive_into_the_fall_of_james_tamou/

In late 2020, the Tigers signed prop James Tamou, who had just captained the Panthers to a minor premiership and a grand final. Wests saw him as a powerful forward to set an example for the young pack at the club.
Here are the 2020-1* splits for Tamou:
![3b293bc7-977f-4714-811e-c2292d828add-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1628769624680-3b293bc7-977f-4714-811e-c2292d828add-image.png) this is by round 21 2021

It’s clear that his power in attack (half as many metres and tackle breaks) and efficiency in defence (over triple the amount of missed tackles) have dropped significantly this year, while playing around 3 minutes less per game.

But it also shows that Tamou did have an impressive 2020 season. Barely any missed tackles would have been a major drawing card for a Tigers side consistently shown up in defence. His yardage was great for an interchange forward, with his metres-per-minute being the best for any prop in 2020. It wasn't a terrible signing at all, and most of the media and this sub was very happy with it. Something in Tamou's game has shifted dramatically this season.

Let’s look at his stats in comparison to other middle forwards for 2021:

![b8241f7c-8c1b-4a8c-a7f0-32f170877273-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1628769637715-b8241f7c-8c1b-4a8c-a7f0-32f170877273-image.png)


From an attacking standpoint, Tamou has been quieter this season than Dylan Napa and Aaron Woods. Yep. To be fair, he hasn't missed nearly as many tackles as them. But he still has almost double the missed tackles as his teammate Alex Twal.

Madge wants to create a professional environment with representative, premiership-winning players. Tamou has been all these things in the past. But it seems that he is just that - a “culture signing” - who has brought nothing on-field during the Tigers’ 2021 campaign. Is it a fitness issue? Is Madge playing him wrong? Was he just playing for a contract last year? Or is the club just cursed to ruin good players?


Stats can be very misleading as the data is based with the same player in 2 completely different squads one of which was almost completely undefeated last year as compared to one that loses twice as often as it wins this year.A fairer comparison would be if he was with the same squad 2 years in a row.Despite that i dont believe he has been great value for us this year
 
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