OFFICIAL Jarome Luai - #295

[EllisFan]

Just saw the Luai interview.
Whether or not he saw his release as a possibility, it happened. As a star player, he would have been reeling.
But in that presser he could not have handled himself and the situation any better, with any more candour or class. Pro.

Luai’s message to the fans was telling, it’s just business.

😕

 

[tig_prmz]

I just watched Kenty on Instagram who said Chammas explained that salary and TPD are both tax free IN PNG, but if money transferred back to Australia, becomes taxable.
I’m wondering how much better off Luai will be for all this kerfuffle.

Luai wouldn't be considered an Australian resident for those 3 years so I didn't think he would pay tax.

Maybe the last year if he comes back to Australia and lives here for 6 months before EOFY then maybe

 

[Merlot]

I saw this, it’s wrong. Don’t take tax advice from rugby league journos. I thought Kenty would be better than this.

Also had me wondering - so their money tax free statis is land locked unless they clean it , shuffle it out of PNG.
When Sterlo and that era of player went to mother England for a top up,they used to pay them in flight coming back to Australia in international air space to avoid tax laws /or so the story went

 

[Merlot]

Also had me wondering - so their money tax free statis is land locked unless they clean it , shuffle it out of PNG.
When Sterlo and that era of player went to mother England for a top up,they used to pay them in flight coming back to Australia in international air space to avoid tax laws /or so the story went

ps .The whole PNG experiment is bank rolled be us tax payers via the OZ government , there will be loophole big enough to drive a truck thru , when the boys come home

 

[Halbrowne61]

If you want to see a more detailed outline, type in to Google “Australian government tax rules relating to Australian players for the new PNG Rugby League franchise”.
It goes into some detail but the whole thing is being deemed somewhat questionable by tax experts.
An interesting fact is that it’s initially set up for 10 years but with withdrawal clauses for Aus, if PNG government deals with foreign countries. ( ie China).

 

[Tiger-ferret]

If you want to see a more detailed outline, type in to Google “Australian government tax rules relating to Australian players for the new PNG Rugby League franchise”.
It goes into some detail but the whole thing is being deemed somewhat questionable by tax experts.
An interesting fact is that it’s initially set up for 10 years but with withdrawal clauses for Aus, if PNG government deals with foreign countries. ( ie China).

That is interesting. The goal posts could shift real quick on the players!

 

[Tom Shines]

There’s BS coming from someone in all this.

Half a million to Parra because we didn’t want our star five eighth to fly to Port Moresby a few times next year.

Doesn’t pass the pub test.

And those halves we love so much, not good enough for FG yet.

Decisions been made … may as well hope for the best that everyone just moves on .,, I don’t know about you, but I don’t think Wally Lewis or Nathan Cleary is walking out the door early…

 

[liltiger]

I don't think we or any other club would have any issue with Luai earning TPAs outside the cap.

As long as he isn't doing it in PNG colours

Other thing is were trying to build and move up the ladder, couldnt help if Luai is on a plane a few times a month heading to and from PNG, missing large chunks of training.

 

[liltiger]

There’s BS coming from someone in all this.

Half a million to Parra because we didn’t want our star five eighth to fly to Port Moresby a few times next year.

Doesn’t pass the pub test.

And those halves we love so much, not good enough for FG yet.

100%. Something is different from when Luai originally signed. Players might be off him. Maybe theres a split in the sheds. Yesterday Luai said in his presser a shout out to the guys who are with him through everything on his side, they know who they are called them his team. Wasnt sure if it was family related or teammate. If it was teammate sounded like others were off him.

 

[liltiger]

If you want to see a more detailed outline, type in to Google “Australian government tax rules relating to Australian players for the new PNG Rugby League franchise”.
It goes into some detail but the whole thing is being deemed somewhat questionable by tax experts.
An interesting fact is that it’s initially set up for 10 years but with withdrawal clauses for Aus, if PNG government deals with foreign countries. ( ie China).

I was under the assumption the money was only tax exempt as long as it remains in PNG. As soon as its brought back here to Australia then theyre taxed on it.

 

[liltiger]

Also had me wondering - so their money tax free statis is land locked unless they clean it , shuffle it out of PNG.
When Sterlo and that era of player went to mother England for a top up,they used to pay them in flight coming back to Australia in international air space to avoid tax laws /or so the story went

Could send them on a cruise and transfer it in international waters.

 

[tig_prmz]

Other thing is were trying to build and move up the ladder, couldnt help if Luai is on a plane a few times a month heading to and from PNG, missing large chunks of training.

Then he would be in breach of his contract and we can fire him if he's missing training for other personal commitments.

I think all this flying to PNG stuff is quite exaggerated.

Everything happens in public here and I doubt Jarome would do more than a couple of visits during bye rounds to PNG.

Even the whole signing for PNG, he got it done within a week, no drama around it, didn't drag it on. He is professional enough to not let it affect his performance IMO.

 

[full80]

The exemption was announced as part of the budget. Kenty was probably told that if the players receive income from investments in Australia then they would still be taxed which is true. I could be wrong but I believe the only exemption will be the salary paid by the Chiefs.

I don't claim to be an expert ( as I start commenting like I am one, lol) but I think a lot of this was in a whole package of investment into PNG as part of a defence strategy to curtail China. Wasn't that long ago that Cook Islands did a deal to allow Chinese military to have a base there, and it explains government's recent trips to Pacific nations. I suspect altering tax laws for a relatively few Australian football players is small stuff in the scheme of things for them. (and all governments do offer 'tax incentives' for other reasons. In my industries lots of US companies are offered 'unfair' tax treatment to entice them here to spend money. Whether or not it is benefit to my industry is another matter).

 

[liltiger]

Then he would be in breach of his contract and we can fire him if he's missing training for other personal commitments.

I think all this flying to PNG stuff is quite exaggerated.

Everything happens in public here and I doubt Jarome would do more than a couple of visits during bye rounds to PNG.

Even the whole signing for PNG, he got it done within a week, no drama around it, didn't drag it on. He is professional enough to not let it affect his performance IMO.

No doubt Luai would put in, imagine the media having a field day with the Tigers though. We lose a few are in a bye round and Luai is in PNG on a promotional gig for one of his deals. The media would be on a feeding frenzy.

 

[hammertime]

I don't really get how those TPA's are even allowed before he'd even began his tenure at PNG?

Obviously must be legal since it's so open, but how is that ok?

They are supposed to be independent of the club. e.g. Jordan and Nike.

In reality, it's more grey than that, and this one is a problem because of the distance to get there to represent. PNG companies will be capitalising on the hype next year, which wouldn't happen in other scenarios.

The clubs lodge these with the NRL to validate that the deals are independent, which has caught the Tigers admin up in all of this.

 

[Halbrowne61]

Other thing is were trying to build and move up the ladder, couldnt help if Luai is on a plane a few times a month heading to and from PNG, missing large chunks of training.

I think Benji must make the call “ for the good of the team” to start putting him in the bench to give our young guys a go.

IMO there’s something ( don’t know what) not right about this whole saga , but whether we’ll ever know is unlikely.
Or maybe I’m just cynical in my old age.

 

[Telltails]

If every good player was benched because he committed to another club the following season a lot of good players would not be playing much footy.
It's a professional sport. Fans are emotive we don't make the best judgement in situations like this. It's been dealt with - every coach in the NRL with the squad we have currently available would pick him and so should Benji.

 

[Tom Shines]

They are supposed to be independent of the club. e.g. Jordan and Nike.

In reality, it's more grey than that, and this one is a problem because of the distance to get there to represent. PNG companies will be capitalising on the hype next year, which wouldn't happen in other scenarios.

The clubs lodge these with the NRL to validate that the deals are independent, which has caught the Tigers admin up in all of this.

TPA’s have always reminded me of that old saying “it’s only a rort if you aren’t doing it”…

For some reason it’s a game that our club doesn’t want to play …. Puts as at a disadvantage

 

[TheEnz]

100%. Something is different from when Luai originally signed. Players might be off him. Maybe theres a split in the sheds. Yesterday Luai said in his presser a shout out to the guys who are with him through everything on his side, they know who they are called them his team. Wasnt sure if it was family related or teammate. If it was teammate sounded like others were off him.

Dont know if they are "off" him, however i have seen a bit of a shift in the dynamic and to be entirely honest even from the start he seemed to be a bit aloof from the rest of the team. He has a number of businesses he pursues outside of the WT so you very rarely see him in any of the pics the guys share when they are out with each other. On the field and in the media he is all in with the team, however outside of that i don't think he really socializes with them.

 

[TheEnz]

I think Benji must make the call “ for the good of the team” to start putting him in the bench to give our young guys a go.

IMO there’s something ( don’t know what) not right about this whole saga , but whether we’ll ever know is unlikely.
Or maybe I’m just cynical in my old age.

Even if deep down Benji has decided our chances of making the top 8 are zero, he will still be committed to winning more games and finishing higher than last season....that's probably more critical for him and the club than giving a few young guys a taste.