Jason Taylor on replacing Robbie Farah and the future of Mitch Moses and James Tedesco

[cktiger]

This year being at so many games and hearing the reaction when Taylor's name was announced was the first year i have actually questioned the class and intelligence of our supporters. Everyone loves giving it to Souths and Dogs fans because they stereotypically have low amounts of those two qualities, but our supporters were dead set embarrassing with their booing this year.

And i love the classic ''i support the team, not the coach''. What difference is that? Both the players and coach share the same success and failures. Does that mean you want the coach gone? How is he going to get sacked? The team is going to lose. But don't you support the players and want them to win? If they do win, then the coach will benefit. No logic in it whatsoever.

Taylor strikes me as a bloke who booing and jeering would only make him more determined. Rightly or wrongly he thinks the road he has taken is the right one for our club and nothing is going to change his mind. **Self belief and determination are good qualities to have especially when you coach at NRL level**

What about self delusion?
Said it before that I believe that improvement showed this year was through the players (especially the younger guys) getting more experience.
When the going got tough and we needed some leadership and guidance to hold us together we fell apart - because the guy that is supposed to provide that simply couldn't do it.
We are blessed with some of the best natural talent in the league - Taylor needs to step up or step down.

 

[matchball]

Give Taylor his fair chance without Farah.
Don't forget he didn't want Farah in the team from day one and backed down on club pressure.
2017 he needs to make the 8 or we'll end up with Nathan Brown or Todd Payten.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Do you boo twice at the ones from Ipswich.??????????

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

This year being at so many games and hearing the reaction when Taylor's name was announced was the first year i have actually questioned the class and intelligence of our supporters. Everyone loves giving it to Souths and Dogs fans because they stereotypically have low amounts of those two qualities, but our supporters were dead set embarrassing with their booing this year.

And i love the classic ''i support the team, not the coach''. What difference is that? Both the players and coach share the same success and failures. Does that mean you want the coach gone? How is he going to get sacked? The team is going to lose. But don't you support the players and want them to win? If they do win, then the coach will benefit. No logic in it whatsoever.

It means exactly what it says,
Who and what you support is your business and your right
Everyone else has the right to do exactly the same , According to their own opinion.
Just as there are some who don't support various players in the team.
Works both ways

 

[Buffalo]

Give Taylor his fair chance without Farah.
Don't forget he didn't want Farah in the team from day one and backed down on club pressure.
2017 he needs to make the 8 or we'll end up with Nathan Brown or Todd Payten.

I cringe at the thought of these two imposters coaching us

 

[TCL]

Give Taylor his fair chance without Farah.
Don't forget he didn't want Farah in the team from day one and backed down on club pressure.
2017 he needs to make the 8 or we'll end up with Nathan Brown or Todd Payten.

I cringe at the thought of these two imposters coaching us

impostors maybe harsh, but i would rather subject to budget get someone else, i don't know who but someone with FG experience that may want the chance to work with our key players (presuming we keep them).

And maybe if I'm really good, santa will bring me a bike for christmas.

 

[stevetiger]

We are blessed with some of the best natural talent in the league

There is so much negativity surrounding our squad and it's not realistic. People complain about our prop rotation when it's one of the best in the entire comp.

Moses, Brooks, Simona, Nofo, Naiqama, Idris and Tedesco will mean we can score points.

We have some weak points but it's not significant. We need a winger to step up. Our edge second rowers are weak. Liddle or Ballin need to perform at hooker.

Those weak points aren't significant.

 

[stevetiger]

Give Taylor his fair chance without Farah.
Don't forget he didn't want Farah in the team from day one and backed down on club pressure.
2017 he needs to make the 8 or we'll end up with Nathan Brown or Todd Payten.

We need to set really high standards if Taylor is going to stay on. He has completely stuffed two seasons with his ego. Taylor ball and the Farah drama were all based on Taylor and his ego.

What has to happen this year to retain him after the way he has performed the last two seasons. I've said that I would move him on anyway. It's the smart decision.

He may turn things around and not have anymore of these self-inflicted situations occur again but is it worth the risk.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

We are blessed with some of the best natural talent in the league

There is so much negativity surrounding our squad and it's not realistic. People complain about our prop rotation when it's one of the best in the entire comp.

Moses, Brooks, Simona, Nofo, Naiqama, Idris and Tedesco will mean we can score points.

We have some weak points but it's not significant. We need a winger to step up. Our edge second rowers are weak. Liddle or Ballin need to perform at hooker.

Those weak points aren't significant.

We leak points, that in itself is a significant point Steve.

Jirskyr posted the stats in the Idris thread and they show that that if you want to finish top of the ladder and run deep into the finals, you have to have the best or 2nd best defence.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

We need to set really high standards if Taylor is going to stay on. He has completely stuffed two seasons with his ego. Taylor ball and the Farah drama were all based on Taylor and his ego.

You honestly believe Taylor, or let alone any first grade coach, would risk ongoing employment due to ego? Vacant NRL first grade coaching positions are quite rare and usually quite competitive, yet you believe a coach would ignore all that through his ego. Absolute nonsense.

Could you ever consider that coaching the team a different style of play and moving Farah along were in the long term interests of the club?

 

[supercoach]

We need to set really high standards if Taylor is going to stay on. He has completely stuffed two seasons with his ego. Taylor ball and the Farah drama were all based on Taylor and his ego.

You honestly believe Taylor, or let alone any first grade coach, would risk ongoing employment due to ego? Vacant NRL first grade coaching positions are quite rare and usually quite competitive, yet you believe a coach would ignore all that through his ego. Absolute nonsense.

Could you ever consider that coaching the team a different style of play and moving Farah along were in the long term interests of the club?

So true!!!

 

[happy_tiger]

This year being at so many games and hearing the reaction when Taylor's name was announced was the first year i have actually questioned the class and intelligence of our supporters. Everyone loves giving it to Souths and Dogs fans because they stereotypically have low amounts of those two qualities, but our supporters were dead set embarrassing with their booing this year.

And i love the classic ''i support the team, not the coach''. What difference is that? Both the players and coach share the same success and failures. Does that mean you want the coach gone? How is he going to get sacked? The team is going to lose. But don't you support the players and want them to win? If they do win, then the coach will benefit. No logic in it whatsoever.

It means exactly what it says,
Who and what you support is your business and your right
Everyone else has the right to do exactly the same , According to their own opinion.
Just as there are some who don't support various players in the team.
Works both ways

I might not like a player , but I still support them , same goes for the coach and anyone else involved with the club

Hoping people fail to support your own egos and opinions is pathetic

Your either 100% in with the WT's or there is the door

I might get angry with certain players and people at the club and their decisions , but I hope they make me look the right tosser by shoving my words back down my throat on a weekly basis

 

[stevetiger]

We need to set really high standards if Taylor is going to stay on. He has completely stuffed two seasons with his ego. Taylor ball and the Farah drama were all based on Taylor and his ego.

You honestly believe Taylor, or let alone any first grade coach, would risk ongoing employment due to ego? Vacant NRL first grade coaching positions are quite rare and usually quite competitive, yet you believe a coach would ignore all that through his ego. Absolute nonsense.

I believe that all sorts of people would act based upon their ego rather than doing what was in the longer term interest.

Could you ever consider that coaching the team a different style of play and moving Farah along were in the long term interests of the club?

Of course you could consider that. If you considered that and you were lacking any form whatsoever of critical thinking you might even believe that. When you are an impartial critic and judge the situation on it's merits you can see how stupid those decisions that Taylor made were.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

I believe that all sorts of people would act based upon their ego rather than doing what was in the longer term interest.

You are confusing ego with conviction.

 

[Nelson]

We are blessed with some of the best natural talent in the league

There is so much negativity surrounding our squad and it's not realistic. People complain about our prop rotation when it's one of the best in the entire comp.

Moses, Brooks, Simona, Nofo, Naiqama, Idris and Tedesco will mean we can score points.

We have some weak points but it's not significant. We need a winger to step up. Our edge second rowers are weak. Liddle or Ballin need to perform at hooker.

Those weak points aren't significant.

A weak second row is not significant? I think it's one of the biggest things holding this team back…All the top teams had excellent second rowers:

Storm: Harris and Proctor (the NZ second row)
Raiders: Whitehead and Papalii (international second rowers)
Sharks: Graham and Lewis (state/international second rowers)
Cowboys: Cooper and Lowe (state second rower/likely future state second rower)

 

[stevetiger]

I believe that all sorts of people would act based upon their ego rather than doing what was in the longer term interest.

You are confusing ego with conviction.

No. I'm not confusing anything at all.

You should have said that you don't think Taylor's decisions were based on ego even though they were obviously the wrong decisions.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I believe that all sorts of people would act based upon their ego rather than doing what was in the longer term interest.

You are confusing ego with conviction.

No. I'm not confusing anything at all.

You should have said that you don't think Taylor's decisions were based on ego even though they were obviously the wrong decisions.

So his ego is the only answer for his mistakes? Does that count for other coaches too? And as for him sabotaging our year this yr, that is categorically false. We made enough progress this yr that satisfied everyone at the club and a big chunk of supporters.

 

[stevetiger]

I believe that all sorts of people would act based upon their ego rather than doing what was in the longer term interest.

You are confusing ego with conviction.

No. I'm not confusing anything at all.

You should have said that you don't think Taylor's decisions were based on ego even though they were obviously the wrong decisions.

So his ego is the only answer for his mistakes? Does that count for other coaches too? And as for him sabotaging our year this yr, that is categorically false. We made enough progress this yr that satisfied everyone at the club and a big chunk of supporters.

You are right in that it could just be dumb decisions. Who knows exactly why he made some really poor decisions in the time he has been here.

The progress this year was good. Hopefully we improve on that again next year.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

This year being at so many games and hearing the reaction when Taylor's name was announced was the first year i have actually questioned the class and intelligence of our supporters. Everyone loves giving it to Souths and Dogs fans because they stereotypically have low amounts of those two qualities, but our supporters were dead set embarrassing with their booing this year.

And i love the classic ''i support the team, not the coach''. What difference is that? Both the players and coach share the same success and failures. Does that mean you want the coach gone? How is he going to get sacked? The team is going to lose. But don't you support the players and want them to win? If they do win, then the coach will benefit. No logic in it whatsoever.

It means exactly what it says,
Who and what you support is your business and your right
Everyone else has the right to do exactly the same , According to their own opinion.
Just as there are some who don't support various players in the team.
Works both ways

I might not like a player , but I still support them , same goes for the coach and anyone else involved with the club

Hoping people fail to support your own egos and opinions is pathetic

Your either 100% in with the WT's or there is the door

I might get angry with certain players and people at the club and their decisions , but I hope they make me look the right tosser by shoving my words back down my throat on a weekly basis

so, your in charge of the door now ??
Sorry if I dont do things the way that You like.
But I'l Support the team any way I like , and be happy to let others support them in whatever way that they want
Yes , I thingk we have a very less than average Coach, but I still want us to win despite that fact that is holding them back at times.
Still it's nice to live in a country that allows people can have different opinions,
So I think I'll continue to make my own decisions on how I support a team that I've supported since their beginning,
That is , of course , If I have your permission!

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

You are confusing ego with conviction.

No. I'm not confusing anything at all.

You should have said that you don't think Taylor's decisions were based on ego even though they were obviously the wrong decisions.

So his ego is the only answer for his mistakes? Does that count for other coaches too? And as for him sabotaging our year this yr, that is categorically false. We made enough progress this yr that satisfied everyone at the club and a big chunk of supporters.

You are right in that it could just be dumb decisions. Who knows exactly why he made some really poor decisions in the time he has been here.

The progress this year was good. Hopefully we improve on that again next year.

Fair dinkum, you have to be a troll. You contradict yourself that much it's not funny.

He's made poor decisions but progress has been good? By that logic we'll be a powerhouse if he starts making the right decisions.