OFFICIAL Jock Madden #244

Of course they’re not the reason but they’re pretty damn representative of everything wrong with the club in not holding the playing group accountable and always blaming the coach.

It’s just annoying when clowns like paws refuse to acknowledge that we’ve had 5 coaches over the last 10 years, 3 of which have won premierships at other clubs, and they haven’t been able to get anything out of the playing group. Yet they call for the coach to be sacked every three years because they refuse to hold the players accountable for producing garbage for nearly a decade and creating a toxic culture at the club.
I’m amused at the way some refer to Ivan Cleary as having great success with the club. 😂
He has coached Warriors and Panthers twice, had Tedesco, Woods, Farah and Moses, but failed to have success at Tigers, just like every other coach since Sheens was sacked.
 
Results driven applies both ways yet you seem to only ever see it one way which is why it’s hard to take anything you say seriously. And yet the players have never delivered results under the last 4 coaches with the serial underachievers still at the club who you continually make excuses for.

Madge is also the 5th coach in 10 years (3rd premiership winning coach) who is struggling to get anything out of this playing group. I’m yet to see you acknowledge that there is a problem with the player culture but you think Brooks should stay in the halves so that tells me all I need to know about you and your footy knowledge.

Respect? I lurked here for ages and you never missed an opportunity to be condescending anytime some called your opinion out. I’m not even going to mention how dishonest and deliberately obtuse you become when people tear apart your arguments (I.e Madge doesn’t care about player welfare)

And in a democracy, I’m allowed to say when those opinions are stupid and that goes both ways and I’m happy to debate that. And don’t act shocked when someone calls you out for trying to smear a coach as not caring about player welfare when you know it’s blatantly untrue.
If Maguire goes, name an NRL Club which would be interested?

If Brooks chose to leave (he is the loyal type and is under contract for another two years), he would be in demand.

The market will speak.
 
Oh right Wayne Bennett, just the greatest NRL coach of all time, who only goes to teams with multiple rep players 🙄 that’s the example you’re going with? Try again and actually try using your brain and some common sense in your next response

Here’s some news you may not be aware of but the club has been going backwards for 10 years in terms of actually competing and if you think that only began with Madge, then there’s no helping you.
Wayne Bennett had more going for him that just coaching good teams. He is an excellent player manager and had the ability to tell a player when his time was up a year or so before it happened eg Wally Lewis. He also had a legendary recruitment officer in Cyril Connell who brought so many outstanding players to the Broncos under Bennett. Writing him off as you have done undersells his contribution to rugby league.
 
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If Maguire goes, name an NRL Club who would be interested?

If Brooks chose to leave (he is the loyal type and is under contract for another two years), he would be in demand.

The market will speak.

Ah so this is how you’re trying to frame the argument now and avoid answering any questions. Typical paws. What were the excuses for the playing group under the other coaches?

If you think a premiership winning coach like Madge won’t have opportunities after this, then you’re even thicker than that wood you work.

Brooks in demand with who? Newcastle and the Bulldogs? That’s adorable. And loyal type? It was just reported that he asked for his release twice. Not to mention no one offered him the money tigers offered during the big 4 mess and the extension so it wasn’t like he had many options.

None of the teams competing for the top 8 or even top 12 are demanding Brooks services because he is a halfback with a crap kicking game and low footy iq and there is not a shred of evidence you can produce that shows otherwise.
 
Ah so this is how you’re trying to frame the argument now and avoid answering any questions. Typical paws. What were the excuses for the playing group under the other coaches?

If you think a premiership winning coach like Madge won’t have opportunities after this, then you’re even thicker than that wood you work.

Brooks in demand with who? Newcastle and the Bulldogs? That’s adorable. And loyal type? It was just reported that he asked for his release twice. Not to mention no one offered him the money tigers offered during the big 4 mess and the extension so it wasn’t like he had many options.

None of the teams competing for the top 8 or even top 12 are demanding Brooks services because he is a halfback with a crap kicking game and low footy iq and there is not a shred of evidence you can produce that shows otherwise.
Name the NRL clubs who would be interested in Maguire?
 
Wayne Bennett had more going for him that just coaching good teams. He is an excellent player manager and had the ability to tell a player when his time was up a year or so before it happened eg Wally Lewis. He also had a legendary recruitment officer in Cyril Connell who brought so many outstanding players to the Broncos under Bennett. Writing him off as you have done undersells his contribution to rugby league.
I never said he wasn’t an excellent player manager so nice try. He definitely was but it’s not underselling to point out he never went to a team that didn’t have multiple rep stars and a strong foundation which he built upon.

Calling him the greatest nrl coach of all time is underselling his contributions to rugby league? I guess reading comprehension is weaker than your woodwork.
 
Name the NRL clubs who would be interested in Maguire?
Considering there isn’t a vacancy for an nrl coaching gig, that’s a pretty stupid and deliberately dishonest question but I wouldn’t expect anything less from you. If Madge gets the sack and an nrl coaching spot opened up, and you think there won’t be interest in a guy who has won premierships in both the Nrl and super league, you are delusional.

Name me a top 10-12 team that would be demanding Brooks services. And don’t make me laugh by mentioning Newcastle and Bulldogs.
 
I never said he wasn’t an excellent player manager so nice try. He definitely was but it’s not underselling to point out he never went to a team that didn’t have multiple rep stars and a strong foundation which he built upon.

Calling him the greatest nrl coach of all time is underselling his contributions to rugby league? I guess reading comprehension is weaker than your woodwork.
Where did I refer to him as the greatest NRL coach of all time? What I wrote was "Writing him of as you have undersells his contribution to rugby league".
 
Considering there isn’t a vacancy for an nrl coaching gig, that’s a pretty stupid and deliberately dishonest question but I wouldn’t expect anything less from you. If Madge gets the sack and an nrl coaching spot opened up, and you think there won’t be interest in a guy who has won premierships in both the Nrl and super league, you are delusional.

Name me a top 10-12 team that would be demanding Brooks services. And don’t make me laugh by mentioning Newcastle and Bulldogs.
On the Brooks Bashers Bore Me thread GEO wrote Cam Smith confirmed Storms interest in Brooks.

Now what NRL clubs would be interested in Maguire?
 
Considering there isn’t a vacancy for an nrl coaching gig, that’s a pretty stupid and deliberately dishonest question but I wouldn’t expect anything less from you. If Madge gets the sack and an nrl coaching spot opened up, and you think there won’t be interest in a guy who has won premierships in both the Nrl and super league, you are delusional.

Name me a top 10-12 team that would be demanding Brooks services. And don’t make me laugh by mentioning Newcastle and Bulldogs.
Presumably other clubs interested in Brooks have halfbacks so there aren't really vacancies but they are still interested. I don't know how my question is pretty stupid or deliberately dishonest. Perhaps it may be a little uncomfortable for you but please answer the question?
 
Where did I refer to him as the greatest NRL coach of all time? What I wrote was "Writing him of as you have undersells his contribution to rugby league".
Are you thick? I referred to him as the greatest nrl coach of all time in the post you replied to. You then claimed that I was writing him off. Try actually reading before posting your poorly thought out garbage.
 
Are you thick? I referred to him as the greatest nrl coach of all time in the post you replied to. You then claimed that I was writing him off. Try actually reading before posting your poorly thought out garbage.
You suggested he only coached good teams and that is the context in which I made that comment.
 
On the Brooks Bashers Bore Me thread GEO wrote Cam Smith confirmed Storms interest in Brooks.

Now what NRL clubs would be interested in Maguire?
If you could actually read or were capable of doing your own research, that was regarding when Cooper Cronk left and they didn't have a replacement half. So you confirmed that there was interest nearly 5 years ago? Not what we were talking about and just another example of you being deliberately dishonest.

I know reading comprehension clearly isn't your strength but go back to my previous post and you'll have your answer.
 
Considering there isn’t a vacancy for an nrl coaching gig, that’s a pretty stupid and deliberately dishonest question but I wouldn’t expect anything less from you. If Madge gets the sack and an nrl coaching spot opened up, and you think there won’t be interest in a guy who has won premierships in both the Nrl and super league, you are delusional.

Name me a top 10-12 team that would be demanding Brooks services. And don’t make me laugh by mentioning Newcastle and Bulldogs.
Name the NRL clubs interested in Maguire? No deflection just name them.
 
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