John Bateman #268

To be fair he's only 19 and played 40 mins of first grade mostly out of position I wouldn't write him off yet

Not at all writing him off. He will have a heap of chances to show us what he is made of and hope he nails it. Just think it’s far too early to be banking on him as a NRL player.
 
Who's writing him off....
As you said - He's only 19.
He's just not ready....

Is he getting a spot in the 17 over Twal, Pole, Blore or Ofa
if we're fully fit?
Doubtful....

I've seen nothing from him in NRL (or Juniors) to suggest he's close to being ready for NRL week after week.
- Let alone a starting spot.

2024 may be a different story....
He's not in my top 21 atm, And I'm not alone...
I actually disagree. I know he isn’t standing out like Rhys Walsh in his debut game but he is a forward. And the things he does well he does effectively even for 19. He makes solid contact and doesn’t get overpowered in the ruck. He gets through the line with footwork. And he has very good passing skill.
In my opinion and you might be on the same page I would prefer for long term benefit of club and player that he isn’t starting over more senior players however if injuries hit or for whatever reason he is needed to be called in to the game day 17 I am confident he will handle it.
 
Got a few leaders in the forwards and among those a couple of hard nosed mentals like Klem and Bateman who will get stuck in.
 
Shawn Blore is way ahead of Twal.
Blore was terrific in the trial
How many times has Twaly been stopped a meter or two before the line? It’s almost as if that line has become like a reinforced brick wall?
Does he need to change the way he sees the try line?
Maybe he needs to focus more on the centre of the “in goal area” similar to the method used to karate chop a brick?
 
Shawn Blore is way ahead of Twal.
Blore was terrific in the trial

I find this interesting. Twal offloaded twice, made over 100mtrs including a half break and his tackle rate was great - he kept the middle tight. Twal for me was the pick of the bench players hands down.

Blore plays a different role and position to Twal. Blore did have a good game also. Both should be on the bench round 1.
 
How many times has Twaly been stopped a meter or two before the line? It’s almost as if that line has become like a reinforced brick wall?
Does he need to change the way he sees the try line?
Maybe he needs to focus more on the centre of the “in goal area” similar to the method used to karate chop a brick?

Change is coming.
Twal did 2 offloads - 2!!! In a single trial.
That was twice as many a he did in 13 games last season.
 
I find this interesting. Twal offloaded twice, made over 100mtrs including a half break and his tackle rate was great - he kept the middle tight. Twal for me was the pick of the bench players hands down.

Blore plays a different role and position to Twal. Blore did have a good game also. Both should be on the bench round 1.
Ideally they're both in the 17 hey...

Both important pieces of the puzzle for us in 2023.
 
I’m struggling to see where Joe O fits into the 17 baring injuries.
He was one of our best last year.
I think I’ve mentioned this a few times,
Joffa is still around but standing out in a badly beaten side is always easier than if you have a much stronger unit.
I’m sure he will get a go but not quite as heavily as some on here would have you believe.
We’ve heard him mentioned as captain, no 13 , etc.
He, imo, just doesn’t have that break the game open quality.
 
It’s Friday and still no Bateman , also not a word from the club , no wonder all the other teams laugh at us . How hard is it to give ur fans a update
 
How many times has Twaly been stopped a meter or two before the line? It’s almost as if that line has become like a reinforced brick wall?
Does he need to change the way he sees the try line?
Maybe he needs to focus more on the centre of the “in goal area” similar to the method used to karate chop a brick?
That because Twal has no power, he's one of the softest runners of the football in the history of the NRL.

That's why he should almost never get passed the ball in the opposition 20. You know as soon as the ball's in his hands he's going to meander to teh defence, get dominated and get a very slow play the ball. Only if we're in a mess and just need someone to take a settler should he ever see the ball in the 20, and even then i wouldn't pass it to him if there were other options who can play the ball faster.
 
I think I’ve mentioned this a few times,
Joffa is still around but standing out in a badly beaten side is always easier than if you have a much stronger unit.
I’m sure he will get a go but not quite as heavily as some on here would have you believe.
We’ve heard him mentioned as captain, no 13 , etc.
He, imo, just doesn’t have that break the game open quality.
He is a seasoned professional, has great footwork at the line and a smart offload. In defence he is a tireless worker and hits hard. He will be an addition to the new recruits not a subtraction. Having the new guys around him will only help his game as he won’t be on his own. He is second picked after Klemmet at either Prop or lock for mine.
 

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