Josh Aloiai #190

Whenever there’s talk about NRL players having a boxing match – which is becoming increasingly common – one man’s name gets mentioned in the comments more than any other.

That player is Wests Tigers forward Josh Aloiai.

While plenty of other footy players have taken up the challenge and laced on a pair of gloves, those in the know say 24-year-old Aloiai legitimately has what it takes to make a career out of boxing.

The Samoan Test representative has had one amateur fight in Australia so far, scoring a dominant second-round knockout victory in 2017 before a string of injuries delayed any thought of advancing his boxing career.

Fully fit and healthy for the first time in a few years after off-season surgery, Aloiai has been honing his craft in the boxing gym.

He isn’t one to blow his own trumpet, but there are plenty of coaches and training partners who want the 1.9m tall Tiger to have a crack in the ring.

“The boys have been pushing him, because he’s not really a shit-talker,” Aloiai’s boxing coach Hassan El-Achrafi told Sporting News.

“We’ve been telling him he doesn’t have to be the bad guy on social media, but we’ve gotta get his name out there. That smack talk, it just doesn’t suit him.”

It’s a fair assessment of Aloiai’s natural ability that ‘Huss’ didn’t even realise he wasn’t a full-time boxer when they first met.

“I’ve been training him for about four years now, but for the first few weeks of training I didn’t even realise he was a footy player,” he said.

“I hadn’t heard of him at that time and was just training him like all the rest of the boys.”

Asked what sets the Tigers enforcer apart from some of the others, Huss points out the technical details of the sweet science.

“We talk a lot of boxing and he’s watched all the old fights. The other day we broke down Ali vs Frazier from a technical aspect,” he said.

“He understands boxing – not just punching. He studies it and understands the historical and technical things. Why things are supposed to be done certain ways and times.

“So, he really respects the sport as well, which is why he won’t jump on social media and start calling people out.”

Talented amateur super-heavyweight Deepak Basrai, who has won a string of state and national titles, has sparred and trained alongside Aloiai on several occasions.

He says it’s the simple things Aloiai does well that make him a quality boxer.

“He does the basic things really, really well,” Basrai told Sporting News.

“He has an amazing jab and amazing footwork. He was actually hard to hit in sparring.

“These are the things that you notice when you get an elite level. You can have power, but if you can’t do the simple things, you’ll get touched up.

“But he was doing all the little things really well.”



Jackson Murray, another rising amateur heavyweight state and national champion, backed up Basrai’s claims.

“We started off sparring and he actually caught me straight away – he was really quick,” said Murray, who has also sparred with the likes of Lucas Browne and Demsey McKean.

“After a couple of rounds I was really having to be on my toes. In the heavyweights, it can be quite hard to get real quality sparring, but that’s what he gave me. I always tell him to get down to the gym whenever he can.”

Although Aloiai’s only had one amateur fight, Murray believes he’s already one of the best heavyweights in Australia.

“I’m not even talking the code-crossers either – the footy guys coming over – I’m saying he’d be up there with some of the best in Australia after a few of the more well-known guys,” he said.

“If he did it consistently, he’d be one of the best in Australia.

“From what I’ve seen – and I’m mates with Paul Gallen – but I’d back Josh. In the heavyweights, it only takes one hit, but in terms of skillset, Josh for sure.”

It’s safe to say fighting runs in the Aloiai family. His dad is a purple belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu and he has two brothers who both box.



As a teenager, he competed in league and boxing for as long as he could, before taking up a contract in the NRL.

“He was always devoted to both, but fighting is in his blood,” said childhood friend and MMA fighter James Vake, who trains at City Kickboxing in Auckland alongside UFC middleweight champion Israel Adesanya.

“He was always just so talented at both, and I’ve told him that if he’d have devoted his time to boxing he’d have made it as a professional by now.

“He’s a natural, but he was just too good at league to pass it up.”

As for the man himself, he’s just biding his time, mindful of respecting the sport of boxing and its athletes.

“I grew up in a boxing gym,” Aloiai told Sporting News.

“I’ve mixed it with some of the best in Australia and New Zealand in combat sports and I’ve never felt out of my depth.

“I’ve stayed boxing all through my NRL career and I could comfortably beat any of the crossover boxers – any of them.

“But, I’m not going to sacrifice my integrity to get noticed.

“When timing around football and injuries line up, I’ll fight. And when I do, they’ll realise.


“Until then, why not do some research…”
 
Arc up Josh!
Surely he could belt a few on the jaw of Cammy as a retirement gift?
Would be great to see him cut a swathe through Gallen, Hall and SBW as well.
 
He did challenge Gallen last year, around the time Gallen fought Hall. Gallen is a bit like Mundine though. Would rather fight pub fighters and guys 5 years past their prime. If I was a boxing fan, I’d be ashamed of the mockery footy players make of my sport.
 
'I'd back myself against anyone in NRL': Aloiai eyes off-season bout
Author - Brad Walter
NRL.com Senior Reporter
Timestamp - Wed 27 May 2020, 09:58 AM

Josh Aloiai has been touted as the best boxer in the Telstra Premiership and the Wests Tigers forward doesn’t shy away from the claim, declaring: "I'd back myself against anyone in the NRL."

Aloiai grew up in a boxing family and his late father, Sefilino, was a New Zealand jiu-jitsu champion.

The 24-year-old has boxed since he was young and had an amateur fight in Sydney at the end of the 2017 season, winning by knockout in the second round.

While the NRL season was suspended, Aloiai stepped up his boxing training and he is keen for another off-season fight, with the likes of Paul Gallen or Darcy Lussick holding no fears for him.

"It’s definitely in the back of my mind. If I had the opportunity, if I wasn’t nursing injuries or if there were some exciting fights available, I would do it," said Aloiai, who has been named in the front row for Saturday’s match against Cronulla at Bankwest Stadium.

"I like boxing and I like fighting. I grew up in a boxing family and I had brothers that boxed in a boxing gym so I have got a passion for it. I had a fair few fights in New Zealand and I had one in the off-season a few years ago in Australia."

The Samoa international has been training under Hassan El-Achrafi at the Final Round gym in Prestons and turned more to boxing sessions while unable to train with the Tigers for five weeks while the NRL season was suspended.

"You still just practise good habits, and shadow boxing and footwork," he said. "When we were allowed to I trained one-on-one with a trainer."

Growing up in Auckland, he was considered equally talented at boxing or league but had to choose between the sports.

"You only have so much time to pursue one career so rugby league was the one I went after," Aloiai said.

"But I try to stay pretty active and sharpen my tools when I can.

"I helped my brothers prepare for their fights, I was in their training camps. I stay sparring and stay training, even since I have been in Australia. When my body can handle doing a bit of extra stuff boxing is a good way to go for me."

Those who have trained with him believe he has the ability to be one of Australia’s top heavyweights.

Emerging heavyweight Jackson Murray, one of Aloiai's sparring partners, predicted he would beat Gallen.

"From what I’ve seen, and I’m mates with Paul Gallen, I’d back Josh," Murray said. "If he did it consistently, he’d be one of the best in Australia.

"I’m not even talking the code-crossers either – the footy guys coming over – I’m saying he’d be up there with some of the best in Australia after a few of the more well-known guys."
 
From what I have seen, Josh would beat Gallen pretty easily.

The problem for Josh is that, as of now, he is nowhere near a big enough name to 'sell' a fight on PPV.

Gallen V Hall 2
Gallen V SBW

Would both sell.

Gallen V Josh won't.
 
Wish Josh would bring some of that aggro and intimidation on to the playing field. He's not even considered an enforcer such as JWH.
 
Given Aloiai has a plate in his hand I'd be reluctant to let him box in the off season, but that's just me.
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152141) said:
Wish Josh would bring some of that aggro and intimidation on to the playing field. He's not even considered an enforcer such as JWH.

Yet
 
@Nelson said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152151) said:
@Geo said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152146) said:
Maybe just concentrate on Rugby League...

He's a prop, what's there for him to concentrate on?

Work rate, defence - belting blokes in tackles not in the ring and trampling them in attack..
 
@Geo said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152153) said:
@Nelson said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152151) said:
@Geo said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152146) said:
Maybe just concentrate on Rugby League...

He's a prop, what's there for him to concentrate on?

Work rate, defence - belting blokes in tackles not in the ring and trampling them in attack..

Yeah run hard, tackle hard and do lots of it...the discipline of boxing training would probably be good for him providing he's not doing heavy contact work during the season. Better he fill his spare time belting training partners than some of the other categories of people NRL players have decided to belt over recent years...
 
Earn the coin that the wts are paying you first Josh. I feel you are just another player at this club with the word potential next to them.
I feel you have a couple of big games a year where the forum gets excited about you and the rest is run of the mill stuff. As a previous poster said those sort of players don't sell ppv
 
@kiwitiger said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152166) said:
Earn the coin that the wts are paying you first Josh. I feel you are just another player at this club with the word potential next to them.
I feel you have a couple of big games a year where the forum gets excited about you and the rest is run of the mill stuff. As a previous poster said those sort of players don't sell ppv

I'm thinking the same as you. All the boxing talk isn't really impressing me.
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152141) said:
Wish Josh would bring some of that aggro and intimidation on to the playing field. He's not even considered an enforcer such as JWH.

Honestly he's one of the more aggressive props we have with the football, he just doesn't dramatise it like JWH does.

Literally, do we have anyone who winds up like Aloiai when making runs?
 
@jirskyr said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152169) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152141) said:
Wish Josh would bring some of that aggro and intimidation on to the playing field. He's not even considered an enforcer such as JWH.

Honestly he's one of the more aggressive props we have with the football, he just doesn't dramatise it like JWH does.

Literally, do we have anyone who winds up like Aloiai when making runs?

He runs hard most of the time, yes. But he doesn't seem to have blokes looking over their shoulder to see if he's gunning for them like a renowned enforcer does. We need one of those blokes.
Hope he has a great season.
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152170) said:
@jirskyr said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152169) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Aloiai eyes off\-season bout](/post/1152141) said:
Wish Josh would bring some of that aggro and intimidation on to the playing field. He's not even considered an enforcer such as JWH.

Honestly he's one of the more aggressive props we have with the football, he just doesn't dramatise it like JWH does.

Literally, do we have anyone who winds up like Aloiai when making runs?

He runs hard most of the time, yes. But he doesn't seem to have blokes looking over their shoulder to see if he's gunning for them like a renowned enforcer does. We need one of those blokes.
Hope he has a great season.

Genuinely interested to know who those "renowned enforcers" are in the NRL right now. Not being sarcastic at all. I can't think of many hit-men, because I assume you mean players who dent in defence and pick out big blokes to run at in attack. Used to be Burgess; JWH on his odd day. Anyone else?

Taumalolo and Papalii are machines but they do their damage all the time everywhere, almost exclusively in attack not defence.

Napa goes looking for hits in defence but he's a fair pillow in attack.
 
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