Just how many good teams are there in this comp?

hybrid_tiger

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Realistically, how many good teams are there in this comp?

Completely understand that almost any team can beat any other team on their day, that's the beauty of the cap. But really, if you go through every teams squad on paper at least, I believe only Melbourne can challenge us if we play at our best.

I know that of course the game is played on grass and not paper and there are many other factors that come into play including injures etc. but just look at the rest of the teams in this comp:

Melbourne: By far and away the best team in the comp. Slater, Inglis, Smith and Cronk are like a well oiled machine and the rest of their squad is just a supporting cast. Bellamy has a habit of turning nuffies into players who can do the job and is an excellent coach. I think they are grub cheats who are over the cap, but make no mistake, they are an excellent football side.

Dragons: Very good defensive side, but they don't have an extra gear in attack. Soward is a terrible defender and does not have many strings to his bow aside from a fantastic kicking game (which often keeps them in games). Hornby is more of a utility than a natural half and IMO they will again struggle when the going gets tough.

Titans: Decent side, but without Prince they go from decent to well below average. Greg Bird is NOT a five-eighth, not creative enough in attack. Nathan Friend and Minichiello are their most underrated players, but that aside they aren't fantastic. Will be up there but I don't think they have enough class across the park to challenge for the title.

Roosters: Darkhorse IMO. Carney and Pearce have struck a great combo and Anasta seems to be a calming influence and doesn't have to do too much with the others running the show. Don't think they will win the comp, but they'll definitely be in the 8 and will knock off some very fancied sides along the way.

Warriors: Some days look like worldbeaters, other days they look like they belong in the Toyota Cup. Don't have the playmakers to give anything a shake.

Manly: Orford is more of a loss than many realise, though Hodgkinson seems a handy player. Foran is not an organiser and they don't have Stewart anymore. Forward pack is not great Watmough aside, though they are huge and quite aggressive.

Bulldogs: Immensely overrated IMO, Kimmorley is a year older, Roberts is average at best, Ennis the same. They have a forward pack full of nuffies (Hickey, Gordon etc.) and no class in the outside backs Patten and Morris aside. Idris is a turnstyle.

Panthers: Too inconsistent, poor defensively, don't have the halves to challenge.

Souffs: Good forward pack, decent backline, terrible halves. Sandow is not a good player and Sutton is more of a lock than a five-eighth IMO.

Eels: Have a great fullback, a very overrated and unproven five-eighth and a terrible half and hooker. Have a fantastic backline on paper and forward pack is not bad but they are a confidence side and only perform well if they get their offload game going.

Knights: Decent on their day but will not challenge. Some good young kids, but too hot and cold. Big question marks over their halves including Mullen who is overrated.

Sharks: Poor side, but Smith will improve them and take alot of pressure off Barrett. I actually think their pack is not too bad with Snowden, Gallen, Douglas etc, but absolutely zero class in the outside backs aside from Ferguson.

Raiders: Young, talented side but inconsistent and terrible away from home. Don't have a halfback or hooker of any note.

Broncos: Too young with most players still eligible for Toyota Cup. Lockyer almost ready for retirement and will not be able to carry them like he once could. Huge lack of impact in the engine room.
 
how dare you even CONSIDER Parramatta being average
they have HAYNE!
they have MORTIMER!
they have TAHU!
hahahaha, sorry i just have to laugh at how parramatta are falling apart. There was a reason they were on track for the spoon mid way through the year. A centre and an over-rated prop won't change that
 
the only teams that will be guarenteed a finals spot is the storm and dragons and maybe titans IMO on form we are currently the 3rd best team behind the dragons and storm.

IMO the only team that cant make the finals is the sharks warriors and brisbane this year, so its pretty open
 
as far as genuine title contenders go, there is:

tigers
storm
dragons
eels

TBH, these are the only teams I believe can win the premiership
 
What nonsense, we're 4 rounds in and you're writing off three quarters of the comp. A lot of the time a premiership threat doesn't emerge until the back end of the season. Too much football still to be played for us to be writing off some of these sides. Parra could win there next 5 (they have the line up to do it), and people will say they're favourites again.
 
@Marshall_magic said:
What nonsense, we're 4 rounds in and you're writing off three quarters of the comp. A lot of the time a premiership threat doesn't emerge until the back end of the season. Too much football still to be played for us to be writing off some of these sides. Parra could win there next 5 (they have the line up to do it), and people will say they're favourites again.

Doesn't take away any of my points, that they have an unproven five-eighth and a mediocre halfback and hooker.

That will not win the comp, IMO.
 
i wasnt impressed with souths that much

they ran one out for the first 3 tackles of almost every set with next to no second phase play, good teams will nullify this by getting 3-4 in on tackles since they arent looking for off loads

they never had any real support play just one out bashing up, then throwin it wide on tackles 4-5

and the bulldogs were just plain awful, dropped to much ball and gave away to many penalties
 
There will always be a surprise packet team that will surprise everyone look at us in 2005,we are only 4 rounds in and like marshall magic stated the season isnt won untill the back end of the season,we should revisit this thread in September,a lot of your points are valid but is way to early to be making team conclusions.
 
Good post hybrid.

IMO it's a pretty clear cut top 4 ATM. Storm, dragons, us and titans (with a fit prince). Other teams like the roosters, panthers, eagles, warriors and rabbits could spring a surprise but realisticly aren't as good as the top shelf.

however if every team has their fully fit 17 and plays their best, only the storm can match us imo
 
Were not in the game this year yet until we can strike fear in our opponents defensivly. I was extatic as I celebrated the second Easter Miracle on Sunday however "get out of jail" wins are just that.
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More Games like the Parra will put us up ther with Drags and storm etc…

Watching the Cowboys game should clarify things if / when we win 3 games in a row...
 
@fergiefurr said:
Btw how slow do the dogs look? What is their average age? 37?

Thats just above their fans IQ as well.

Hate the Dogs and their supporters….
 
Souths played with big intensity tonight. They were very physical and scored some skillful tries. Their pack was pretty awesome. I think they will be in the Top 6 along with us.
 
@Eddie said:
Souths played with big intensity tonight. They were very physical and scored some skillful tries. Their pack was pretty awesome. I think they will be in the Top 6 along with us.

I honestly think when it comes to the crunch that their halves will let them down. Sandow is a very poor player and can't tackle. He implodes under pressure and has plenty of mistakes in him. Sutton I rate highly but I'm not sure he's a five-eighth, I think he's more of a ball playing lock.
 
Generally speaking, there is only one team that isn't "good" in the NRL these days. (The Sharks.)

12-15 years ago, you had all these poorly planned, kinda shambolic ARL expansion teams like the Chargers, the Crushers, the Cowboys and the Western Reds, and a lot of formerly great Traditional clubs like Souths, Balmain and Wests that were struggling to keep up financially in the professional\Super league era. It was a given that almost all of these teams would lose week in week out for what seemed like years on end. A lot of the better teams of that era, (Manly, Canberra, Broncos) would clinch the minor premiership losing 2 or 3 games per season… and thats when there were 20 teams in the comp instead of the 16 we have today.

With the exception of the Sharks... you wouldn't be surprised if any team in the comp made the finals this year. There are a lot of teams like the Raiders, the Panthers, the Knights and the Warriors who can beat anybody "On their day". The easybeats that I mentioned above, seem to be a bit of a thing of the past.

Except for the Sharks. They are bad and seem to be getting worse and worse. Ricky Stuart is a shockingly awful coach... i hope the rumors that the Tigers are keen on him as a replacement for Sheens are not true.
 
Pretty solid reviews of all the sides… but disagree slightly with a few dude...

**Souths:** DONT have an average backline, they are hopeless! When Nathan Meritt looks like a star, your outside backs are terrible! Sandow is TERRIBLE! As long as he is wearing the 7, they will struggle. Their forward pack though is MASSIVE and no doubt will win them games along the way.

**Knights:** Watching the game yesterday, they weren't too bad. Both sides made simple mistakes, but Mullen and Dureu are very solid players imo. Mullen played well yesterday i though.
 
@Spartan117 said:
@fergiefurr said:
Btw how slow do the dogs look? What is their average age? 37?

Thats just above their fans IQ as well.

Hate the Dogs and their supporters….

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lol, i know

some people call footy players 'meatheads' based on perceptions, but bulldogs fans are certainly not the full quid lol
 
@TIGERS said:
Except for the Sharks. They are bad and seem to be getting worse and worse. Ricky Stuart is a shockingly awful coach… i hope the rumors that the Tigers are keen on him as a replacement for Sheens are not true.

IMO the Sharks aren't as bad as they're made out to me.

Their backline is VERY poor though, with the exception of Ferguson. However Barrett and Smith as their halves is better than ALOT of teams in this competition.
 
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