Just wait and watch

My god, we've been ''waiting'' for 5 yrs, hell even maybe even 10\. Doesn't anyone get tired of saying this over and over and over?
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
My god, we've been ''waiting'' for 5 yrs, hell even maybe even 10\. Doesn't anyone get tired of saying this over and over and over?

It is a good cop out by a club that has underachieved on and off the field for nearly a decade , it is easy for a CEO and coach to roll out this rubbish. Who says that the young talent will eventuate to anything? and I must say I believe there is not as much young talent in the club that is being sprooked anyway .
 
I can wait, as long as we make the top 8 and play finals footy i can live with that

Failing too many times recently is testing my patience
You start to doubt coaches, players ability and effort.

You actually start to ask yourself why i subject myself to this heartache.

But the fact is a loyal supporter cant turn their back on his club. so … i will wait
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
My god, we've been ''waiting'' for 5 yrs, hell even maybe even 10\. Doesn't anyone get tired of saying this over and over and over?

This is always our problem, cant agree more….

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So where exactly did you guys reckon we'd finish on the ladder this year? Our results can't exactly be a major surprise to anyone, surely. So I don't really get this angst that arises after every loss.
Surely this new regime must be given time to put their plans in place and start to work those plans. Sure, go ahead and vent your anger at past management, but to demand instant success from the new management is absurd. Am I frustrated at our continued lack of consistent success ? Of course.
Am I angry at where this club ended up under the totally dysfunctional board of the past? Damn right.
But I am prepared to give these new guys a chance. If we are in the same position in 2017 then I'll also be venting my spleen, but really, some of the posters on this forum are unreasonable to say the least.
 
I'm not quite ready to write us off just yet , but we aren't probably going as well as many think

Buggers me how JT can get these guys playing for 80 minutes though
 
For starters players should be picked on form and with this said sirronen and Moses should not be there next week ! This would be a start for the message to be heard loud and clear.

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@yeti said:
So where exactly did you guys reckon we'd finish on the ladder this year? Our results can't exactly be a major surprise to anyone, surely. So I don't really get this angst that arises after every loss.
Surely this new regime must be given time to put their plans in place and start to work those plans. Sure, go ahead and vent your anger at past management, but to demand instant success from the new management is absurd. Am I frustrated at our continued lack of consistent success ? Of course.
Am I angry at where this club ended up under the totally dysfunctional board of the past? Damn right.
But I am prepared to give these new guys a chance. If we are in the same position in 2017 then I'll also be venting my spleen, but really, some of the posters on this forum are unreasonable to say the least.

I think you summed it up quite well. We're all starving for success, the club knows this. But unfortunately with the plan they've taken on youth it will take time.

Even if you buy established players takes a season or two for team to gel, and also the high price gamble on established buys doesn't always pay off.
 
It has been extremely frustrating as we've seen the team put on two wins off the back of a brilliant collective defensive effort, and show small periods of competency in attack (particularly putting the ball through the hands,) but it is still rather disjointed. I expected to see it take a while to come together yet.
 
Our patience is wearing thin because the era led by Tim Sheens post 2005 underachieved massively. That is why people are unwilling to wait a further one or two years for this current crop to come to fruition.

The Sheens/Marshall/Farah/Fulton/Heighnton/Gibbs era always promised so much however constantly failed to live up to the hype. We probably should have won another premiership or even two from 2007-2012\. But we didn't and as a result us fans kept getting dealt excuses when the reality was they had the wrong attitude the whole time. We simply couldn't perform consistently and definitely struggled to close out games under pressure.

Fast Forward to 2013-2014 and Potter is brought in to clean out the roster and usher in a new era with players like Heighnton, Beau, Marshall, Gibbs, Utai, Tuqiri amongst others all moved on. The new crop led by Teddy, Moses, Brooks, Siro, Sue, Ava, Woods, Simona, Nofo are all brought in as we enter a new era. No one gave us a chance and everyone including ourselves on this very forum knew we would simply be making up the numbers as the squad built combinations and gained valuable experience. That is fair enough.

Heading into 2015 everyone still predicts that our roster is extremely light on experience. A new coach and administration comes in and finds our salary cap in a huge mess. As a result we can't bolster our squad and thus everyone accepts thats we are to inexperienced to do anything this year. This was probably always going to be another year of making up the numbers whilst we continue to build. Even the great Gus Gould quotes in one of his SMH articles "This is a team of the future".

Before the season, everyone knew we would be making up the numbers and many were struggling to see how we were going to win games. We were always going to be great one day and horrible the next. That was one of the most popular lines heading into 2015.

This year however we have been brilliant for 20 minutes and horrible for the remaining 60\. Yet people are going off their heads when what we predicted unfolds exactly. We were never ever going to compete consistently this year and I think we have punched way above our weight this season after 7 rounds.

I know we keep hearing that "we will be a great team eventually" and we are getting sick to death of it. But don't let the mistakes of the Sheens era dictate our emotions now. If we had of lived up the hype and won a premiership from 2007-12 we wouldn't be so frustrated and thirsty for success now. We wouldn't be so impatient and we would be willing to wait for this new era to evolve. Unfortunately their failures and a shocking strike rate of 3/15 finals appearances means we as fans are so eager for immediate success.

Lets not forget that this current squads average age is only 22\. Our management were forced to blood them all at the same time and thus we have to go through a trough before we peek in a year or twos time. I'm not saying that all our juniors are going to become superstars but they will surely improve to the point were we can feel confident with a 22-0 lead that we can close out a game. Hopefully our salary cap situation will also be resolved and then we can make some astute signings to compliment our talented juniors. Maybe then we won't have to say "we will be good" and can instead have the league world shouting "gee these tigers are good".

In summary, i just think we're being impatient because we expected a premiership or two during the Sheens era. We didn't get it though and now we don't want to wait any longer until these boys can deliver us one. But that was then and this is now. Give them until round 20, if there is no improvement then maybe we can start to worry.
 
@Tony33 said:
Our patience is wearing thin because the era led by Tim Sheens post 2005 underachieved massively. That is why people are unwilling to wait a further one or two years for this current crop to come to fruition.

The Sheens/Marshall/Farah/Fulton/Heighnton/Gibbs era always promised so much however constantly failed to live up to the hype. We probably should have won another premiership or even two from 2007-2012\. But we didn't and as a result us fans kept getting dealt excuses when the reality was they had the wrong attitude the whole time. We simply couldn't perform consistently and definitely struggled to close out games under pressure.

Fast Forward to 2013-2014 and Potter is brought in to clean out the roster and usher in a new era with players like Heighnton, Beau, Marshall, Gibbs, Utai, Tuqiri amongst others all moved on. The new crop led by Teddy, Moses, Brooks, Siro, Sue, Ava, Woods, Simona, Nofo are all brought in as we enter a new era. No one gave us a chance and everyone including ourselves on this very forum knew we would simply be making up the numbers as the squad built combinations and gained valuable experience. That is fair enough.

Heading into 2015 everyone still predicts that our roster is extremely light on experience. A new coach and administration comes in and finds our salary cap in a huge mess. As a result we can't bolster our squad and thus everyone accepts thats we are to inexperienced to do anything this year. This was probably always going to be another year of making up the numbers whilst we continue to build. Even the great Gus Gould quotes in one of his SMH articles "This is a team of the future".

Before the season, everyone knew we would be making up the numbers and many were struggling to see how we were going to win games. We were always going to be great one day and horrible the next. That was one of the most popular lines heading into 2015.

This year however we have been brilliant for 20 minutes and horrible for the remaining 60\. Yet people are going off their heads when what we predicted unfolds exactly. We were never ever going to compete consistently this year and I think we have punched way above our weight this season after 7 rounds.

I know we keep hearing that "we will be a great team eventually" and we are getting sick to death of it. But don't let the mistakes of the Sheens era dictate our emotions now. If we had of lived up the hype and won a premiership from 2007-12 we wouldn't be so frustrated and thirsty for success now. We wouldn't be so impatient and we would be willing to wait for this new era to evolve. Unfortunately their failures and a shocking strike rate of 3/15 finals appearances means we as fans are so eager for immediate success.

Lets not forget that this current squads average age is only 22\. Our management were forced to blood them all at the same time and thus we have to go through a trough before we peek in a year or twos time. I'm not saying that all our juniors are going to become superstars but they will surely improve to the point were we can feel confident with a 22-0 lead that we can close out a game. Hopefully our salary cap situation will also be resolved and then we can make some astute signings to compliment our talented juniors. Maybe then we won't have to say "we will be good" and can instead have the league world shouting "gee these tigers are good".

In summary, i just think we're being impatient because we expected a premiership or two during the Sheens era. We didn't get it though and now we don't want to wait any longer until these boys can deliver us one. But that was then and this is now. Give them until round 20, if there is no improvement then maybe we can start to worry.

Good Post Tony.

I think youre saying its all Tim Sheens's fault. Well thats how im looking at it, milked this club dry.
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@Tony33 said:
Our patience is wearing thin because the era led by Tim Sheens post 2005 underachieved massively. That is why people are unwilling to wait a further one or two years for this current crop to come to fruition.

The Sheens/Marshall/Farah/Fulton/Heighnton/Gibbs era always promised so much however constantly failed to live up to the hype. We probably should have won another premiership or even two from 2007-2012\. But we didn't and as a result us fans kept getting dealt excuses when the reality was they had the wrong attitude the whole time. We simply couldn't perform consistently and definitely struggled to close out games under pressure.

Fast Forward to 2013-2014 and Potter is brought in to clean out the roster and usher in a new era with players like Heighnton, Beau, Marshall, Gibbs, Utai, Tuqiri amongst others all moved on. The new crop led by Teddy, Moses, Brooks, Siro, Sue, Ava, Woods, Simona, Nofo are all brought in as we enter a new era. No one gave us a chance and everyone including ourselves on this very forum knew we would simply be making up the numbers as the squad built combinations and gained valuable experience. That is fair enough.

Heading into 2015 everyone still predicts that our roster is extremely light on experience. A new coach and administration comes in and finds our salary cap in a huge mess. As a result we can't bolster our squad and thus everyone accepts thats we are to inexperienced to do anything this year. This was probably always going to be another year of making up the numbers whilst we continue to build. Even the great Gus Gould quotes in one of his SMH articles "This is a team of the future".

Before the season, everyone knew we would be making up the numbers and many were struggling to see how we were going to win games. We were always going to be great one day and horrible the next. That was one of the most popular lines heading into 2015.

This year however we have been brilliant for 20 minutes and horrible for the remaining 60\. Yet people are going off their heads when what we predicted unfolds exactly. We were never ever going to compete consistently this year and I think we have punched way above our weight this season after 7 rounds.

I know we keep hearing that "we will be a great team eventually" and we are getting sick to death of it. But don't let the mistakes of the Sheens era dictate our emotions now. If we had of lived up the hype and won a premiership from 2007-12 we wouldn't be so frustrated and thirsty for success now. We wouldn't be so impatient and we would be willing to wait for this new era to evolve. Unfortunately their failures and a shocking strike rate of 3/15 finals appearances means we as fans are so eager for immediate success.

Lets not forget that this current squads average age is only 22\. Our management were forced to blood them all at the same time and thus we have to go through a trough before we peek in a year or twos time. I'm not saying that all our juniors are going to become superstars but they will surely improve to the point were we can feel confident with a 22-0 lead that we can close out a game. Hopefully our salary cap situation will also be resolved and then we can make some astute signings to compliment our talented juniors. Maybe then we won't have to say "we will be good" and can instead have the league world shouting "gee these tigers are good".

In summary, i just think we're being impatient because we expected a premiership or two during the Sheens era. We didn't get it though and now we don't want to wait any longer until these boys can deliver us one. But that was then and this is now. Give them until round 20, if there is no improvement then maybe we can start to worry.

Good Post Tony.

I think youre saying its all Tim Sheens's fault. Well thats how im looking at it, milked this club dry.

Not Tim Sheens individually but the club as a whole whilst he was here. The coach, the players, the board and all the CEO's in that time.

In the last year we have come a long long way since then. Lets give them abit of time and not let the sins of the past define the new board, coach, CEO and playing group.

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@wasabi said:
For starters players should be picked on form and with this said sirronen and Moses should not be there next week ! This would be a start for the message to be heard loud and clear.

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Replaced by ????

Please do not say Drinkwater, Moltzen, Akauola or Liolevave.
 
@yeti said:
So where exactly did you guys reckon we'd finish on the ladder this year? Our results can't exactly be a major surprise to anyone, surely. So I don't really get this angst that arises after every loss.
Surely this new regime must be given time to put their plans in place and start to work those plans. Sure, go ahead and vent your anger at past management, but to demand instant success from the new management is absurd. Am I frustrated at our continued lack of consistent success ? Of course.
Am I angry at where this club ended up under the totally dysfunctional board of the past? Damn right.
But I am prepared to give these new guys a chance. If we are in the same position in 2017 then I'll also be venting my spleen, but really, some of the posters on this forum are unreasonable to say the least.

Yeti is 100% correct. There seems to be a lot of people on here that expected us to get a top 4 spot. We are travelling better than I thought we would over all.
 
@wasabi said:
For starters players should be picked on form and with this said sirronen and Moses should not be there next week ! This would be a start for the message to be heard loud and clear.

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I have never been a fan of Sironen but this year he is aiming up at last. I'm prepared to give him and Moses more time. Bust as one other poster mentioned, who are you going to replace them with?
 

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