OFFICIAL Kelma Tuilagi

balmain boy said:
Surely the thread title should be updated to include [rumour]

Tigers are reviewing their offer, but manly have overpaid him. We won't match it, but how close are we willing to go is the question. He'd take a bit less to stay, but not 100-150k less.
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So there is a chance he still stays if we increase the offer?
 
What was the outcome of Joseph Tapine being off contract 2023. Did he resign with Canberra.
He would be exactly the type of player I would want to replace Kelma.
 
Cobarcats said:
What was the outcome of Joseph Tapine being off contract 2023. Did he resign with Canberra.
He would be exactly the type of player I would want to replace Kelma.
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Replacing a 5 gamer with a proven wrecking ball. Like wanting us to replace Simpkin with Cameron Smith
 
Regarding the lack of penetration by our forwards- it’s not just the lack of aggression or intent by our guys, but I think a big part of the problem is that we play much slower than the good teams. This starts with our play the ball speed (because we are dominated in the tackle), also our slow dummy half play and our receivers not carrying forward momentum as a line offering options and engaging the defence (often just one out runners). We need to be able to swallow up the easy metres while the opposition is setting - we need to get that momentum roll on.
You do that with darts from dh, and offloads, and moving forward in waves with more runner options.
Watch the Storm attack when they get on a roll they are difficult to stop, wave after wave of motion.
In contrast we are one out for 4 tackles, an out the back sweep play and a kick- every set of 6. Way too predictable and easy meat.
 
TigerSJ said:
Regarding the lack of penetration by our forwards- it’s not just the lack of aggression or intent by our guys, but I think a big part of the problem is that we play much slower than the good teams. This starts with our play the ball speed (because we are dominated in the tackle), also our slow dummy half play and our receivers not carrying forward momentum as a line offering options and engaging the defence (often just one out runners). We need to be able to swallow up the easy metres while the opposition is setting - we need to get that momentum roll on.
You do that with darts from dh, and offloads, and moving forward in waves with more runner options.
Watch the Storm attack when they get on a roll they are difficult to stop, wave after wave of motion.
In contrast we are one out for 4 tackles, an out the back sweep play and a kick- every set of 6. Way too predictable and easy meat.
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Yep and that’s been our stock play for years.
Boring and easy to shut down.
 
TigerSJ said:
Regarding the lack of penetration by our forwards- it’s not just the lack of aggression or intent by our guys, but I think a big part of the problem is that we play much slower than the good teams. This starts with our play the ball speed (because we are dominated in the tackle), also our slow dummy half play and our receivers not carrying forward momentum as a line offering options and engaging the defence (often just one out runners). We need to be able to swallow up the easy metres while the opposition is setting - we need to get that momentum roll on.
You do that with darts from dh, and offloads, and moving forward in waves with more runner options.
Watch the Storm attack when they get on a roll they are difficult to stop, wave after wave of motion.
In contrast we are one out for 4 tackles, an out the back sweep play and a kick- every set of 6. Way too predictable and easy meat.
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Some good points there Tiger.
We seem to get from our try line to the opposition try line ok and score enough points.
It's our D that's the problem and the more effective your D is, you actually defend less and attack more. Stats will prove that with teams like Melbourne. They always seem to be attacking.
I agree our last play option is often predictable and we should chance our arm a bit more.
I think a new general out there in Hastings might get the forwards running onto the ball better with accurate passing, putting them into gaps and directing play.
I believe it is what we do at second receiver that is important.
Having bodies in motion around him is paramount and mix up the kick chase.
Kicking down the fullbacks throat annoys me, make him work.
 
TigerSJ said:
Regarding the lack of penetration by our forwards- it’s not just the lack of aggression or intent by our guys, but I think a big part of the problem is that we play much slower than the good teams. This starts with our play the ball speed (because we are dominated in the tackle), also our slow dummy half play and our receivers not carrying forward momentum as a line offering options and engaging the defence (often just one out runners). We need to be able to swallow up the easy metres while the opposition is setting - we need to get that momentum roll on.
You do that with darts from dh, and offloads, and moving forward in waves with more runner options.
Watch the Storm attack when they get on a roll they are difficult to stop, wave after wave of motion.
In contrast we are one out for 4 tackles, an out the back sweep play and a kick- every set of 6. Way too predictable and easy meat.
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No questions asked of the dedence
 
TigerSJ said:
Regarding the lack of penetration by our forwards- it’s not just the lack of aggression or intent by our guys, but I think a big part of the problem is that we play much slower than the good teams. This starts with our play the ball speed (because we are dominated in the tackle), also our slow dummy half play and our receivers not carrying forward momentum as a line offering options and engaging the defence (often just one out runners). We need to be able to swallow up the easy metres while the opposition is setting - we need to get that momentum roll on.
You do that with darts from dh, and offloads, and moving forward in waves with more runner options.
Watch the Storm attack when they get on a roll they are difficult to stop, wave after wave of motion.
In contrast we are one out for 4 tackles, an out the back sweep play and a kick- every set of 6. Way too predictable and easy meat.
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Agree totally SJ. The defense doesn't even get tired when playing us. They just send 3 blokes out of the line to hit our single man hit up. Its a joke. Steph was getting smashed again last week because its to predictable. If the game plan thrown up last week is anything to go by for the season Madge wont last long.
 
Snidest 0 said:
On that note - I'd take Sam McIntyre back in a heart-beat!

Great hands - the cardio fitness to keep pushing up in the ruck & staying on the ball (as the best contemporary 13s do) - and he has the consistently best mid-riff tackling technique of any forward we have had since Ben Galea!!

He not only hits & sticks - but he knows how to use his shoulder and really stings his opponents!

A concept that is very foreign to Luke Garner for instance - or even Twal who is extremely effective but never hurts his opponent.

He may not be as dynamic as Radley or Murray - but he is a bigger body and has all their other attributes.

The fact that he had a negotiated contract extension printed but that was never executed while our hopeless CEO went on holidays - leaving the Titans to gazump us is yet another black eye and major embarrassment for our dysfunctional and incompetent senior management team!

He is also a great kid who loved the club and playing under Madge - & he was very happy living in the Ryde area.
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He looked good for us. Unfortunately I think that speaks to the quality of the rest of the forwards we have. Gets minimal playing time with the Titans and looks very average when he does get a game
 
Harvey said:
He looked good for us. Unfortunately I think that speaks to the quality of the rest of the forwards we have. Gets minimal playing time with the Titans and looks very average when he does get a game
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I agree that he is better than what we kept - so why didn't we keep him instead of some of these other bums?

He is a genuine footballer who would have been a weekly starter here!
 
Snidest 0 said:
I agree that he is better than what we kept - so why didn't we keep him instead of some of these other bums?

He is a genuine footballer who would have been a weekly starter here!
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Agreed he played with passion for us,i would take him back quite happily as he would show a few of the faint hearted what is required
 
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