Key Dependence

mtd

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In business, you try and avoid having key dependencies because if you lose that key dependency for whatever reason, it makes life alot tougher than it needs to be. Often businesses can capitulate if they haven't planned properly.

In our team, this year it's been pretty clear in our attack how dependent we are on Benji Marshall.

So what happens if he gets injured in round 24 when we are coming 5th… We are screwed.

At the moment we are short 2 gun backs in Lawrence and Tuqiri. We are lacking spark. So given we have about 1000 gun halves this year, I genuinely beleive we need to get Marshall into the centres for a few games.

3\. Marshall
6\. Moltzen
7\. Miller

If it doesn't work, pull the 6 or 7 off and slot marshall back into the halves.

We've got absolutely nothing to lose and so much to gain. Not only could we potentially put on a heap of points, we are also preparing for the future incase something happens to our #1 (aka benjiiii).

Naturally people will ask - Why would you move the best 5/8 in the game? Well he's close to one of the best players in the game, if not the best. the sort of player that can play anywhere. in a team game, why wouldn't we take advantage of this?

p.s. i think its more crazy playing a halfback off the bench
p.s.s. i also think its more crazy reshuffling the backline for the last 10 minutes to give a winger a run
 
I am happy to see Benji wearing number 6 and playing 5/8\. We have too many other dramas at the moment to change where Benji plays.
 
could have sworn Benji wore 6 but played the majority of the game against the titans as the half…12 kicks compared to Millers 3...
 
Benji is happy @ 6 and we need he and Robbie touching the ball as many times as pos.

I would like Moltz @ 3 rather than 1.
 
I'll be shocked if you get a supporter MTD The world's best five eight at centre . I guess you would of put Wally Lewis at hooker as well ??
 
What happens if you do that in a game like the last one against the Titans, where the forwards were outplayed and couldnt go forward and the backs as a result could do very little?

You also stuff up the entire bench/i'change system.

Putting a rookie with and unconfident player coming back from injury could also see backs getting very little clean ball with room to move.

I see your [point, trying to gain some insurance in case benji goes down while Benjis in fact still there….last weeks game did in fact just what you propse in a round about sort of way, Miller will get his chances still Im sure, moltzen - you can put your house on it.
 
@mtd said:
In business, you try and avoid having key dependencies because if you lose that key dependency for whatever reason, it makes life alot tougher than it needs to be. Often businesses can capitulate if they haven't planned properly.

In our team, this year it's been pretty clear in our attack how dependent we are on Benji Marshall.

So what happens if he gets injured in round 24 when we are coming 5th… We are screwed.

At the moment we are short 2 gun backs in Lawrence and Tuqiri. We are lacking spark. So given we have about 1000 gun halves this year, I genuinely beleive we need to get Marshall into the centres for a few games.

3\. Marshall
6\. Moltzen
7\. Miller

If it doesn't work, pull the 6 or 7 off and slot marshall back into the halves.

We've got absolutely nothing to lose and so much to gain. Not only could we potentially put on a heap of points, we are also preparing for the future incase something happens to our #1 (aka benjiiii).

Naturally people will ask - Why would you move the best 5/8 in the game? Well he's close to one of the best players in the game, if not the best. the sort of player that can play anywhere. in a team game, why wouldn't we take advantage of this?

p.s. i think its more crazy playing a halfback off the bench
p.s.s. i also think its more crazy reshuffling the backline for the last 10 minutes to give a winger a run

Your ignorance of the game astounds me MTD!!!!

Centres need good ball to be effective - & that comes from the 5/8th!!!

Despite solid competition - this is the dumbest post of the week!!!!
 
No way in the world would I ever consider putting Marshall in the centres. For starters he is either 1st or second in the comp at the moment in try assists and line break assists. Secondly, Miller, while talented is too green to be thrown in the deep end in FG on a regular basis at halfback…And Moltzen...well let's not even go there...Why on earth you would put a bloke who is WAY out of form at 6 ahead of Marshall who is the best 6 in the game is ridiculous. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but it is, it's beyond laughable.
 
Benji is a ball player he'd be useless as a centre. Centres these days are basically backrowers with a bit more pace and footwork they hit holes.
Anyway since Lui went down Benji has basically played halfback, while also receiving the ball wider on occasions. Moltzen and Miller have played second fiddle.
 
@Lisa said:
I'd like Benji @ fullback & chiming in during attack.

Sorry Lisa putting Benji at fullback would be as bad if not worse than having Moltzen back there Benji would have the same commitment to high ball issues that Moltzen did I can't understand why people want to move the worlds best five eight from his best position . Thank God that Sheens won't do the same .
 
1,6,7,9 are your most important and you need stabilty in those positions not chopping and changing if its going ok.

Im not going to put you down and call it stupid i see where your coming from but it wont work benji is a 6 or 7 only…....Its most peoples opinion.

We cant afford to lose this week its not a must win but its to hard to win to many games in a row so you have to keep in touch with the leaders.

When we have all these injuries its not a good move.
 
@redemption said:
**Your ignorance of the game astounds me MTD!!!!**
Centres need good ball to be effective - & that comes from the 5/8th!!!

Despite solid competition - this is the dumbest post of the week!!!!

Your calling people dumb and ignroant, whilst arguing your point with a weak arguement. Good stuff.

Moltzen and Miller both provide good ball - so what are you getting at?

FYI - I played for 15 years and coach a side. I'm not claiming to be a supercoach, but I know what I'm talking about.
 
I guess I never expected anyone to agree with me and alot of you make valid points.

My defence is that you'd be suprised the effect a positional change to a key player can have on the whole team. It creates a buzz and get's them talking, something different.

You also notice how effective other players can be in different positions. Just because a player is a 5/8 or whatever now, it doesn't mean he neccessarily has to be a 5/8 forever.
 
Just look at Inglis at South's, he is their no1 strike player but just dosnt get the touches required to control a game and is wasted at no4\. At present Benji is more a hybrid 7 than a traditional no6\. With Lui out Farah and Benji touch the ball in most plays. So why in hell would you play him in the centre's
 
@mtd said:
@redemption said:
**Your ignorance of the game astounds me MTD!!!!**
Centres need good ball to be effective - & that comes from the 5/8th!!!

Despite solid competition - this is the dumbest post of the week!!!!

Your calling people dumb and ignroant, whilst arguing your point with a **weak arguement**. Good stuff.

Moltzen and Miller both provide good ball - so what are you getting at?

FYI - I played for 15 years and coach a side. I'm not claiming to be a supercoach, but I know what I'm talking about.

Mate - your own argument isnt the strongest tbh.
Moltzen is one unconfident dude at the mo….and miller's had ONE, yes one game in the top grade....wouldnt be hard to put them off their game just off the ruck even if our forwards were going forward.
 
@innsaneink said:
@mtd said:
@redemption said:
**Your ignorance of the game astounds me MTD!!!!**
Centres need good ball to be effective - & that comes from the 5/8th!!!

Despite solid competition - this is the dumbest post of the week!!!!

Your calling people dumb and ignroant, whilst arguing your point with a **weak arguement**. Good stuff.

Moltzen and Miller both provide good ball - so what are you getting at?

FYI - I played for 15 years and coach a side. I'm not claiming to be a supercoach, but I know what I'm talking about.

Mate - your own argument isnt the strongest tbh.
Moltzen is one unconfident dude at the mo….and miller's had ONE, yes one game in the top grade....wouldnt be hard to put them off their game just off the ruck even if our forwards were going forward.

Logical and it makes sense Ink. I like it. And let's not kid ourselves, Sheens is not going to shift Marshall into the centres.
 
if Benji goes down, then we get to test out Moltzen, Lui or Miller in the halves.

BTW if Benji goes down we're probably screwed no matter what we've tried in the past.
 

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