Kidwell expects hardened edge in 2014

@king sirro said:
Is it just me or has Kidwell been severely overrated as a player since he retired??? He was ok, thats it.

Since he retired he gets talked about as though he was one of the hardest backrowers ever. For me he was a solid first grader who would have never even been considered for rep footy if he was Aussie.

You don't have to be a good player to be a very good coach.
 
@Newtown said:
@king sirro said:
Is it just me or has Kidwell been severely overrated as a player since he retired??? He was ok, thats it.

Since he retired he gets talked about as though he was one of the hardest backrowers ever. For me he was a solid first grader who would have never even been considered for rep footy if he was Aussie.

You don't have to be a good player to be a very good coach.

I havent mentioned his coaching. Im hoping he brings us something positive.

Im talking about his playing ability. I seem to be hearing (since we signed him) how tough and good he was as a player and i just didnt see that much in him.

My comment is off subject really and has nothing to do with his coaching and to be honest, is irrelevant to Wests Tigers…..was just making an observation.
 
I know we hear this hype every year but this year will be different, especially with the forwards we now have. Sue, Ava, Sironen, Tupau were all not in the squad (or considered in the forwards) so I would say we have a bit more size to work with. Also Blair's move to the front row will be much more beneficial than when he was in the back row so all in all, we have alot to look forward to.
 
Kidwell always looked like he was going to be a pretty handy centre before he switched to the back row

As someone else said , you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach

Tim Sheens ,Craig Bellamy ,Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Gus Gould , Ivan Cleary come immediately to mind
 
@happy tiger said:
Kidwell always looked like he was going to be a pretty handy centre before he switched to the back row

As someone else said , you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach

Tim Sheens ,Craig Bellamy ,Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Gus Gould , Ivan Cleary come immediately to mind

Wayne Bennett played for Australia!

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@Guest said:
@happy tiger said:
Kidwell always looked like he was going to be a pretty handy centre before he switched to the back row

As someone else said , you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach

Tim Sheens ,Craig Bellamy ,Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Gus Gould , Ivan Cleary come immediately to mind

Wayne Bennett played for Australia!

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Wayne Bennett made Luke Covell look like Martin Offiah

Remember seeing Wayne Bennett and Wayne Stewart (another winger who played for Australia in 1972 ) in a 30 metre run for the line back in Brisbane Rugby League days at Lang Park

I could of used a sun dial to time them

Bennett strength was he was probably one of the fittest guys of his era
 
@innsaneink said:
Gus was a very good player, as was Cleary
Sheens was tough, as was Gibson

Poor examples

Maybe mine and your thoughts on a good player differ

I might give you Gus was a good player , then again he played in some good sides with good forward pack but the others were solid at best

Bennett Sheens Cleary and Bellamy were solid players in my opinion

I can only go off what I've been told about Gibson , but from what the old man told me , again a solid player

Same as I class some of my favourite footballers Dean Lance ,Paul Vautin as solid players
 
@Guest said:
@happy tiger said:
Kidwell always looked like he was going to be a pretty handy centre before he switched to the back row

As someone else said , you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach

Tim Sheens ,Craig Bellamy ,Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Gus Gould , Ivan Cleary come immediately to mind

Wayne Bennett played for Australia!

_Posted using RoarFEED 2013_

Brad Fittler played for Australia too. But what sort of coach did he turn out to be?
 
@Newtown said:
@Guest said:
@happy tiger said:
Kidwell always looked like he was going to be a pretty handy centre before he switched to the back row

As someone else said , you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach

Tim Sheens ,Craig Bellamy ,Wayne Bennett, Jack Gibson, Gus Gould , Ivan Cleary come immediately to mind

Wayne Bennett played for Australia!

_Posted using RoarFEED 2013_

Brad Fittler played for Australia too. But what sort of coach did he turn out to be?

And either did Wally Lewis and that's my point You can't judge a coach on his playing career

Some players can't teach what they had
 
@Irvine said:
Kidwell, Payten and Webster are going to make Potter look like a better coach this year.

I'm glad Webster is back in the mix. He has great potential as a coach and a good rapport with many of our young players who came through the Ball system.
 
@Fraze23 said:
@Irvine said:
Kidwell, Payten and Webster are going to make Potter look like a better coach this year.

I'm glad Webster is back in the mix. He has great potential as a coach and a good rapport with many of our young players who came through the Ball system.

was he the balmain SG ball coach, anyone know what he's like?
 
@innsaneink said:
They all played at the top level for a decade plus.
Only very good players do that

Have to agree to disagree on this one Ink

Yeah a very good player should play for a decade

But lots of players have played for 10 years and aren't very good players

Very good would be players of the ilk say Gene Miles ,Steve Ella ,Nate Myles

Extremely good would be Harragon , Kenny , Cronin ,O'Connor ,Dale Shearer

Immortals well they speak for themselves

We just have a different rating system

I rate the players we spoke as solid average players

And before someone tells me some played representative football so Phil Duke ,Craig Teevan and Adrian Brunker so it doesn't always mean a great deal
 
@Fraze23 said:
@Irvine said:
Kidwell, Payten and Webster are going to make Potter look like a better coach this year.

I'm glad Webster is back in the mix. He has great potential as a coach and a good rapport with many of our young players who came through the Ball system.

Webster is a great coach and a great communicator as is Payten especially with the younger players. Kidwell looks pretty switched on as well from what I have heard and also has a good rapport with the young guys.
 
@innsaneink said:
I dunno I think he was plenty tough enough

Nah, he was as good as Lance Thompson….Solid As but nothing special. He'd make the Aussie C team. A really great player, but so was Lance Thompson. Good for 15 hit ups and 30 tackles a game. Solid,,,,,,, but absolutely nothing special about him. Now,..... having said that, it's exactly what the useless Tigers forwards have needed for 9 years in defense and attack.
 
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