Knock-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Phenomenal lads ! Keep the streak rolling. All rounder. The guys are playing positive and it's showing weekly.

 

[sleeve]

Big time impressed. Cini should be in first grade right now at centre especially given how bad our current centres are. Fitzgibbon is improving a lot. Kiah Cooper has been very surprising. Ogden looks special. Young EJ Lui will play 200 first grade games. Jock Madden was really good and he has a knack for scoring tries, really good backing up and controls a game nicely which is really good for his age. Seyfarth is a fierce worker but he gets manhandled a bit too much. Tom Amone should supplant Mikaele in first grade probably at least for now. Rogers-Smith loves to score a try especially for a prop! Very fun to watch and promising stuff.

Cooper is not that fast, but he is a quality player. He can play centre , wing, and probably anywhere in the backs. The type of player we need in the top 30, and better by far then our first gde outside backs.

 

[The_Patriot]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

 

[ElleryHanley]

Re Cooper...not sure how many people have watched the games, but he is slow....as in s l o wwwwwww.

He took an intercept on the weekend and literally every Souths player who took chase ran him down almost instantly.

He is a legit footy player though, without the physical needs for the modern game.

I'd be happy to see him as a 13 in the NRL at some point, but no way on the wing.

 

[Guest]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

 

[The_Patriot]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

 

[Guest]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

His natural tendency is to arm grab - it's more than attitude with him unfortunately.

 

[The_Patriot]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

His natural tendency is to arm grab - it's more than attitude with him unfortunately.

Right now you may be right but I'll back the kid.

 

[mike]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

Hopefully he will but he will need to do that in the Knock-On Effect first.

 

[The_Patriot]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

Hopefully he will but he will need to do that in the Knock-On Effect first.

Happy for him to do just that

 

[old_man_tiger]

Cini saved at least 1 try with a great tackle to hold up some souffs scumbag/germ. He came within inches of doing it on another occasion. On form he has to be close otherwise why should these boys bother when first grade play 1 good game a month?

Personally I think he is clearly the best defensive fullback we have in terms of goal line defence (no - I wouldn't drop Laurie at this stage).

 

[balmain boy]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Which tackles has he failed at so miserably this season?

Sure he's been isolated one in one 5m off his line, in which case most fullbacks can't stop the try.

 

[Spartan117]

Anyone have alink to the game (s)

This way we can watch and discuss based on evidence.

 

[JC99]

Anyone have alink to the game (s)

This way we can watch and discuss based on evidence.

If you have Kayo there's a replay on there. Unfortunately not every game gets streamed

 

[Hbom]

Chris Lawrence was a turnstile when he came into firsts. I haven't seen much of Cini, but could his defence follow a similar trajectory?

 

[Speed2burn]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Which tackles has he failed at so miserably this season?

Sure he's been isolated one in one 5m off his line, in which case most fullbacks can't stop the try.

I don’t get the knock on his defence either. Has been fine from my viewing

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

If he gets the call to come up , he hope you’re right and I’m wrong . Because if I’m right it’s going to be a long game .

 

[Spartan117]

Anyone have alink to the game (s)

This way we can watch and discuss based on evidence.

If you have Kayo there's a replay on there. Unfortunately not every game gets streamed

I have Foxtel proper, I will search and see what games are there. Thx JC99.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Good to see Israel Ogden get a run, he's been carving up Flegg apparently

Yep, and you would think the team will be strengthened further when Liddle trots out at 9 this week.

Not weakened with Simpkin out?

He played against Souffs

 

[walter]

Last time I really watched cini play he used to run cross field a lot and wasn’t very quick can’t do that in top grade will get cleaned up defensive lines move up a lot quicker don’t know if he still does it but by all reports playing well