Knock-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6

[balmain boy]

Last time I really watched cini play he used to run cross field a lot and wasn’t very quick can’t do that in top grade will get cleaned up defensive lines move up a lot quicker don’t know if he still does it but by all reports playing well

No he runs forwards now. Has the most tackle breaks in nsw cup, averaging 9 a game and making great metres.

I think a lot of people are criticising him based on his performances as an 18 year old in his first season of flegg and have ruled out the possibility that he's improved.

 

[old_man_tiger]

Last time I really watched cini play he used to run cross field a lot and wasn’t very quick can’t do that in top grade will get cleaned up defensive lines move up a lot quicker don’t know if he still does it but by all reports playing well

No he runs forwards now. Has the most tackle breaks in nsw cup, averaging 9 a game and making great metres.

I think a lot of people are criticising him based on his performances as an 18 year old in his first season of flegg and have ruled out the possibility that he's improved.

I think they mentioned leading the comp if PCM too? Not sure was watching on mobile.

 

[TigerWest]

Last time I really watched cini play he used to run cross field a lot and wasn’t very quick can’t do that in top grade will get cleaned up defensive lines move up a lot quicker don’t know if he still does it but by all reports playing well

Correct, we can’t have 2 doing it, we will never go forward.

Seriously I thought he played well last game, but looks a tad slow, though he never had a clean break to show his stuff?

 

[tony soprano]

Speed seems fine to me cini reminds me of Morris for some reason. Would be faster than talau

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Last time I really watched cini play he used to run cross field a lot and wasn’t very quick can’t do that in top grade will get cleaned up defensive lines move up a lot quicker don’t know if he still does it but by all reports playing well

No he runs forwards now. Has the most tackle breaks in nsw cup, averaging 9 a game and making great metres.

I think a lot of people are criticising him based on his performances as an 18 year old in his first season of flegg and have ruled out the possibility that he's improved.

Cini has a development contract, while other players I thought were more impressive didn't. As a development player are you with and around the NRL squad so there is more opportunity to learn and grow? If so it is difficult to make comparisons.

 

[Geo]

Last time I really watched cini play he used to run cross field a lot and wasn’t very quick can’t do that in top grade will get cleaned up defensive lines move up a lot quicker don’t know if he still does it but by all reports playing well

No he runs forwards now. Has the most tackle breaks in nsw cup, averaging 9 a game and making great metres.

I think a lot of people are criticising him based on his performances as an 18 year old in his first season of flegg and have ruled out the possibility that he's improved.

Cini has a development contract, while other players I thought were more impressive didn't. As a development player are you with and around the NRL squad so there is more opportunity to learn and grow? If so it is difficult to make comparisons.

Cini is Top 30 not development..

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

At start of this year I didn’t rate him.
But Currently what I see is “potential”.
He definitely has something. Yes needs someone to work with him in offseason on his defence.
But just get the feeling that over the years of watching lower grade footballers at start of their careers .... that we would regret if we let him go too early.

 

[facepalmer]

Cini saved at least 1 try with a great tackle to hold up some souffs scumbag/germ. He came within inches of doing it on another occasion. On form he has to be close otherwise why should these boys bother when first grade play 1 good game a month?

Personally I think he is clearly the best defensive fullback we have in terms of goal line defence (no - I wouldn't drop Laurie at this stage).

Exactly! Cini needs promotion to send a message that performances get rewarded. He is more than deserving given our skint outside backs. It's not like he's trying to get a start for the 2011 Dragons.

 

[facepalmer]

Speed seems fine to me cini reminds me of Morris for some reason. Would be faster than talau

Yeah I think people think he's slow because he takes a lot of hitups where he runs straight into the teeth of the defence then pushes them backwards ten metres. When he had to loom up in support he went straight past a chasing defender who I am pretty sure was a half and looked damn quick to me.

 

[tony soprano]

Cini saved at least 1 try with a great tackle to hold up some souffs scumbag/germ. He came within inches of doing it on another occasion. On form he has to be close otherwise why should these boys bother when first grade play 1 good game a month?

Personally I think he is clearly the best defensive fullback we have in terms of goal line defence (no - I wouldn't drop Laurie at this stage).

Exactly! Cini needs promotion to send a message that performances get rewarded. He is more than deserving given our skint outside backs. It's not like he's trying to get a start for the 2011 Dragons.

Carroll was likening him to papz in commenting lol

 

[TigerSJ]

From what I’ve seen so far it’s his D that’s not yet up to it - but when you look at Souths cup team they had Milne and Moga in the centres and both looked very ordinary even at that level. The supposed young half to take Reynolds place was on debut in NSW cup and can’t say i even noticed him-and I was looking!!

 

[facepalmer]

From what I’ve seen so far it’s his D that’s not yet up to it - but when you look at Souths cup team they had Milne and Moga in the centres and both looked very ordinary even at that level. The supposed young half to take Reynolds place was on debut in NSW cup and can’t say i even noticed him-and I was looking!!

It's not like he is trying to unseat some defensive superstar centres tho man.

 

[TigerSJ]

From what I’ve seen so far it’s his D that’s not yet up to it - but when you look at Souths cup team they had Milne and Moga in the centres and both looked very ordinary even at that level. The supposed young half to take Reynolds place was on debut in NSW cup and can’t say i even noticed him-and I was looking!!

It's not like he is trying to unseat some defensive superstar centres tho man.

Made me giggle- very true, but you would hope for an improvement if you were to bring him in to the starting team instead of the incumbents.

 

[The_Patriot]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

If he gets the call to come up , he hope you’re right and I’m wrong . Because if I’m right it’s going to be a long game .

After putting up with Luke Brooks for 150 games I'm quite used to long games.

All the best Cini

 

[The_Patriot]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

At start of this year I didn’t rate him.
But Currently what I see is “potential”.
He definitely has something. Yes needs someone to work with him in offseason on his defence.
But just get the feeling that over the years of watching lower grade footballers at start of their careers .... that we would regret if we let him go too early.

Exactly. We've been here before and always regret these early assumptions.

Let the guy develope.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

If he gets the call to come up , he hope you’re right and I’m wrong . Because if I’m right it’s going to be a long game .

After putting up with Luke Brooks for 150 games I'm quite used to long games.

All the best Cini

Now I’ve heard it all . That’s some jibberish right there ...

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

At start of this year I didn’t rate him.
But Currently what I see is “potential”.
He definitely has something. Yes needs someone to work with him in offseason on his defence.
But just get the feeling that over the years of watching lower grade footballers at start of their careers .... that we would regret if we let him go too early.

Exactly. We've been here before and always regret these early assumptions.

Let the guy develope.

That’s what CC cup is for ! LITERALLY!!!!!

 

[The_Patriot]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

At start of this year I didn’t rate him.
But Currently what I see is “potential”.
He definitely has something. Yes needs someone to work with him in offseason on his defence.
But just get the feeling that over the years of watching lower grade footballers at start of their careers .... that we would regret if we let him go too early.

Exactly. We've been here before and always regret these early assumptions.

Let the guy develope.

That’s what CC cup is for ! LITERALLY!!!!!

It's also the place we as fans make calls on players like JAC and Papi and call them not up to it

 

[sleeve]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

At start of this year I didn’t rate him.
But Currently what I see is “potential”.
He definitely has something. Yes needs someone to work with him in offseason on his defence.
But just get the feeling that over the years of watching lower grade footballers at start of their careers .... that we would regret if we let him go too early.

Exactly. We've been here before and always regret these early assumptions.

Let the guy develope.

That’s what CC cup is for ! LITERALLY!!!!!

It's also the place we as fans make calls on players like JAC and Papi and call them not up to it

i said at the start of the year, by mid year the spine will be Simpkin @9 , Brooks @7 , Madden @6 , Douehie @ centre, Kei @ centre and Laurie @ fb , still think i'm on the money.

 

[AJ1]

Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .

Happy for you to go on record with Cini. I'll back him to prove you wrong soon enough

Cini's defence is the reason why he won't get a run in FG.

Defence is attitude. He will turn it around as he has the right attitude to improve his game

At start of this year I didn’t rate him.
But Currently what I see is “potential”.
He definitely has something. Yes needs someone to work with him in offseason on his defence.
But just get the feeling that over the years of watching lower grade footballers at start of their careers .... that we would regret if we let him go too early.

Exactly. We've been here before and always regret these early assumptions.

Let the guy develope.

That’s what CC cup is for ! LITERALLY!!!!!

It's also the place we as fans make calls on players like JAC and Papi and call them not up to it

i said at the start of the year, by mid year the spine will be Simpkin @9 , Brooks @7 , Madden @6 , Douehie @ centre, Kei @ centre and Laurie @ fb , still think i'm on the money.

I think you're wrong about Douehi, he's found his position at 5/8.