Knock-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6

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@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336457) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336432) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336415) said:
Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.

Simpkins is close..shame he has to serve a 2 week suspension for a crusher tackle last week..
 
@willow said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336228) said:
@jc99 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336217) said:
Good to see Israel Ogden get a run, he's been carving up Flegg apparently

Yep, and you would think the team will be strengthened further when Liddle trots out at 9 this week.

Not weakened with Simpkin out?
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336508) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336475) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336469) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336457) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336432) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336415) said:
Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Madden is a great talent. Let him gain experience in the NSW Cup to prepare him for the NRL.

Have only seen Madden play the one game, the televised reserve grade match vs Parra the week before last but he didn't really scream "pick me" with his performance in that game IMO. Brooks has been very ordinary this season so far but I'm not sure Madden has much more than Brooks at this stage. Time will tell.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336469) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336457) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336432) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336415) said:
Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.

Liddle literally just got dropped as did AJ the week before, BJ the week before.....but yeah...ok.

We are only 5 weeks in and Maguire has dropped someone in 3 of the 5 weeks. Mrs Maguire must be a goer, or alternatively, you are making stuff up.

Not this week Mrs Maguire, Woogie is already breaking out in hives
 
@fade-to-black said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336657) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336508) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336475) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336469) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336457) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336432) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336415) said:
Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Madden is a great talent. Let him gain experience in the NSW Cup to prepare him for the NRL.

Have only seen Madden play the one game, the televised reserve grade match vs Parra the week before last but he didn't really scream "pick me" with his performance in that game IMO. Brooks has been very ordinary this season so far but I'm not sure Madden has much more than Brooks at this stage. Time will tell.

I agree with that assessment. Madden’s kicking game hasn’t look first grade standard either.
 
@gallagher said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336630) said:
@willow said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336228) said:
@jc99 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336217) said:
Good to see Israel Ogden get a run, he's been carving up Flegg apparently

Yep, and you would think the team will be strengthened further when Liddle trots out at 9 this week.

Not weakened with Simpkin out?

They might be, but if Liddle does drop back, at least they have a genuine 9 playing at 9.
 
@fade-to-black said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336657) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336508) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336475) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336469) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336457) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336432) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336415) said:
Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Madden is a great talent. Let him gain experience in the NSW Cup to prepare him for the NRL.

Have only seen Madden play the one game, the televised reserve grade match vs Parra the week before last but he didn't really scream "pick me" with his performance in that game IMO. Brooks has been very ordinary this season so far but I'm not sure Madden has much more than Brooks at this stage. Time will tell.

He needs to play more games in NSW Cup. He is not ready for the NRL and not especially ready to face the disaster that is our NRL team. Coming into WTs' NRL is a far different animal than young Walker coming into the Easts team.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336469) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336457) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336432) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336415) said:
Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.

Liddle literally just got dropped as did AJ the week before, BJ the week before.....but yeah...ok.

We are only 5 weeks in and Maguire has dropped someone in 3 of the 5 weeks. Mrs Maguire must be a goer, or alternatively, you are making stuff up.

Spot on.
You don't play all your cards all at once.
Unforced changes is the last thing any coach wants.
I can only imagine what half a reserve grade team getting pumped by south's would do for their confidence
 
@innsaneink said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336733) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336469) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336457) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336432) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336415) said:
Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.

Liddle literally just got dropped as did AJ the week before, BJ the week before.....but yeah...ok.

We are only 5 weeks in and Maguire has dropped someone in 3 of the 5 weeks. Mrs Maguire must be a goer, or alternatively, you are making stuff up.

Spot on.
You don't play all your cards all at once.
Unforced changes is the last thing any coach wants.
I can only imagine what half a reserve grade team getting pumped by south's would do for their confidence

I largely think this would be the case. Can't send a whole bunch of debutantes out to the slaughter.
 
Billy Walters returns form injury to come off the bench, Liddle goes to 9 and Docker Clay to 6. Israel Ogden confirmed to make his NSW Cup debut at centre and Amone starts at 8.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336432) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336415) said:
Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

On the flip side, Cini seems to have been in our lower grades forever!
 
@jc99 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1338912) said:
Billy Walters returns form injury to come off the bench, Liddle goes to 9 and Docker Clay to 6. Israel Ogden confirmed to make his NSW Cup debut at centre and Amone starts at 8.

Isn't Liddle 18th man for 1st grade?
 
@fade-to-black said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1338916) said:
@jc99 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1338912) said:
Billy Walters returns form injury to come off the bench, Liddle goes to 9 and Docker Clay to 6. Israel Ogden confirmed to make his NSW Cup debut at centre and Amone starts at 8.

Isn't Liddle 18th man for 1st grade?

I think Chee Kam is

Liddle probably needs the game time to work on his game more
 
@fade-to-black said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1338916) said:
@jc99 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1338912) said:
Billy Walters returns form injury to come off the bench, Liddle goes to 9 and Docker Clay to 6. Israel Ogden confirmed to make his NSW Cup debut at centre and Amone starts at 8.

Isn't Liddle 18th man for 1st grade?

Apparently not if he's playing reserves. It's weird because Chee Kam and Seyfarth are also named in reserves. Maybe one of them will back up?
 
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336506) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336499) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336492) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336485) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336475) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336469) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336457) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336432) said:
@the_patriot said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1336415) said:
Re-name the comp The Dead End NSW Cup.

These guys could play out of their skin and it wouldnt matter. In reserve grade they stay.


Yeah thats what Simpkin, BJ and AJ say.....oh hang on.

Ignore it if you like but guys like madden, Tuki, Cini etc beg to differ.

We have some real talent in reserves but we are back at the Sheens days where only 2/3rds of the squad are considered 'good enough.

Guys in first would have to sleep with the coaches wife to be dropped.


Madden isnt better than Brooks, Cini cant tackle. Tuki its a matter of time.


Madden will end up proving he can control a game and lead a team around better than Brooks.

He might "end up" proving that. When he does, he can replace Brooks. We are not there yet.

Cini can tackle and has a real knack of making the right decision. He seems more clutch than most of our backs.

Ive seen his games this year and his defence isnt good. He may not be far off, simply because our outside backs are so bad, but the fact is, he is not there yet.


Tuki doesnt need time he needs an opportunity. One he isnt getting while the coach tries to appease the current playing squad. Most of whom are letting him down. (suspension obviously lets the coach of the hook this week)

Tuki will get there, he is VERY young and our pack isnt ***our biggest*** problem at the moment.


Sorry to break it to you but our pack is a massive problem.

and yet its not our biggest problem. See how it works?

How many players would you suggest it is a good idea to replace in a week and yet maintain some cohesion?

The banter had been fun but discussing accountability with a fan like you is poitnless

How can you say Cini is up to first grade defensively , considering he will be in the defensive line , and not at the back ? Have you watched him ? So much arm grabbing . His attack is strong , and yardage work is of high quality , but if you think we are bleeding points low , this kid is not the answer .... yet . Madden is nowhere near as good as brooks , you just want to replace brooks because you’re sick of him , it has nothing to do with his quality or lack there of . And Tuki is 19 currently playing his first season of elite Rugby league . He has a great offload , is strong in his carries , but can be exposed in the defensive line mainly due to his lack of experience . Also his keenness to get rid of the ball can lead to errors , which is also about experience . That kid has been identified as the future of our club along with Blore Simpkins , Uto and Laurie . So relax with “give him a run” rubbish. Once he is deemed at enough of. Level he will come up , and never go down . You have to puck the right time , because if he comes up too soon , the damage it would do to him psychologically could be immense . Have a look at brooks for evidence of that .
 
Nice short side play from Cooper and Super Chee-Kam sees Cini score a good TRY..

Wests 4-0
 
@geo said in [Knock\-On Effect NSW Cup Team List: Round 6](/post/1338924) said:
Nice short side play from Cooper Super Chee sees Cini score a good TRY..

Chee ...poetry in motion
 

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