Kurtis Rowe [Discussion]

Simona to fullback, Fine or Lulia into the centres and Austin into 5/8 and we're a much better attacking unit without losing much in defense.
 
After two NRL games he is no world beater, but after just viewing the replay I dont think he is as bad as everyone is making out. I would stick with him and keep disruptions to the team to the bare minimum.

As for Anasta, I just dont see what skills he has the Austen dosnt. The only problem it is a total waste of energy talking about the subject as he will be on the team list every week while he can walk.
 
One thing I will say about Rowe is that he is more proficient than Moltzen at taking the high ball under pressure.
 
He can catch and he tries hard in kick returns. However he is dominated in most tackles and is a non-entity in attack.

He would be lucky to have made a tackle break in his 2 games. Positioning is also questionable.

Far from a bad player, but I always want to ensure we are using our best option. If he's it, so be it.
 
rowe's fine. potter will and should give him another game, which is all that matters.

Keep the same lineup next week except try to slot in fulton somehwere (a nightmare given how well everyone went).
 
@pHyR3 said:
rowe's fine. potter will and should give him another game, which is all that matters.

Keep the same lineup next week except try to slot in fulton somehwere (a nightmare given how well everyone went).
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I agree. Our major problem atm is with our halves. We have a lot of strike power out wide but they're not seeing enough ball. Rowe & Brooks need to work on their combination while Anasta needs to get the outside men into the game. I'd be more inclined to put Austin in for Anasta at this stage rather than move our fullback around again.

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@smeghead said:
* Returns the ball in a fashion that makes Tim Moltzen look like Taniela Tuiaki. This is the most disappointing aspect of his game considering it was such a strong part of his NYC arsenal.
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:laughing: Funny but true. It's just like watching a mini Moltzen.
 
@Fumbles said:
@smeghead said:
* Returns the ball in a fashion that makes Tim Moltzen look like Taniela Tuiaki. This is the most disappointing aspect of his game considering it was such a strong part of his NYC arsenal.

:laughing: Funny but true. It's just like watching a mini Moltzen.
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Incorrect.Hes running back isnt too bad considering his light frame.I dont know how but he did a good play where it looked for all money Jarryd hayne was going to trap him in goal but he met hayne head on and actually broke out of his tackle and made it back into the field of play.Those plays are crucial.His positioning at times has been found out with a kick try and a 40/20 although to be fair the kick try was more on the winger not staying on his wing and the 40/20 was probably as much on the winger as it was the fullback.Was jolly on the spot to defuse a dangerous grubber in the second half.But again for the most part his positioning has been good.Made a crucial drop in the eels game when returning the kick 10 metres out from our line which was REALLY dangerous but at other times has shown great hands picking up dangerous grubbers around his bootlaces.So whilst having some things to work on lets not question the 80kg 20 year olds attempt at first grade with suggestions of cowardice and him being pathetic as some have.He is what he is a 20 year old bloke still growing physically whilst playing at the elite level of competition.Im sure Mick potter who was fullback of the year a few times himself will be able to help him along the way.Sure I like everyone miss teddy but this guy could turn into a very handy and reliable backup.Have some faith guys.
 
Give the kid a break…....He has been in First-Grade for like 2 seconds some people just get overwhelmed and nervous not everyone is the never nervous Luke Brooks.
 
We have won two games against quality football teams with Rowe at no1, so why on earth would we change things around.First week he was very hesitant as to be expected and against Parra he got more involved. I expect a slow but steady improvement each week.

All I can say is give the kid a break, its the hardest gig on the field and is putting in plenty of effort, okay he is no Teddy but he is doing a job for us and that is all you can ask for
 
@supercoach said:
We have won two games against quality football teams with Rowe at no1, so why on earth would we change things around.First week he was very hesitant as to be expected and against Parra he got more involved. I expect a slow but steady improvement each week.

All I can say is give the kid a break, its the hardest gig on the field and is putting in plenty of effort, okay he is no Teddy but he is doing a job for us and that is all you can ask for
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to be honest, rowe did just as well as teddy did in his first 20-30minutes of FG. hesitant, but went okay.

i remember a time when moltzen was outplaying james tedesco and most on here agreed that teddy should remain on the wing with moltz at 1, let tedesco develop without immense pressure of playing NRL fullback.

rowe is obviously a good player, perhaps not the next billy slater but he deserves at least 1 or 2 more games to see what he can produce. definitely needs to bulk up before ever getting a permanent spot on any team at 1.
 
@pHyR3 said:
@supercoach said:
We have won two games against quality football teams with Rowe at no1, so why on earth would we change things around.First week he was very hesitant as to be expected and against Parra he got more involved. I expect a slow but steady improvement each week.

All I can say is give the kid a break, its the hardest gig on the field and is putting in plenty of effort, okay he is no Teddy but he is doing a job for us and that is all you can ask for

to be honest, rowe did just as well as teddy did in his first 20-30minutes of FG. hesitant, but went okay.

i remember a time when moltzen was outplaying james tedesco and most on here agreed that teddy should remain on the wing with moltz at 1, let tedesco develop without immense pressure of playing NRL fullback.

rowe is obviously a good player, perhaps not the next billy slater but he deserves at least 1 or 2 more games to see what he can produce. **definitely needs to bulk up before ever getting a permanent spot on any team at 1**.
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100% He's only 20 he has plenty of time do that he will most likely bulk up this off-season.
 
@pHyR3 said:
to be honest, rowe did just as well as teddy did in his first 20-30minutes of FG. hesitant, but went okay.
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Incorrect. I remember Tedesco making a break in his debut game something Rowe has yet to do.
Tedesco was brilliant for his brief 29 minutes he had 7 runs for 87 metres. Rowe's debut game in comparison was 5 runs for 38 metres.
I would hardly call that "just as good"

Potter is already looking to replace him this week…keep an eye out for an under 20's player to take his spot.
 
@pHyR3 said:
@supercoach said:
We have won two games against quality football teams with Rowe at no1, so why on earth would we change things around.First week he was very hesitant as to be expected and against Parra he got more involved. I expect a slow but steady improvement each week.

All I can say is give the kid a break, its the hardest gig on the field and is putting in plenty of effort, okay he is no Teddy but he is doing a job for us and that is all you can ask for

to be honest, rowe did just as well as teddy did in his first 20-30minutes of FG. hesitant, but went okay.

i remember a time when moltzen was outplaying james tedesco and most on here agreed that teddy should remain on the wing with moltz at 1, let tedesco develop without immense pressure of playing NRL fullback.

rowe is obviously a good player, perhaps not the next billy slater but he deserves at least 1 or 2 more games to see what he can produce. definitely needs to bulk up before ever getting a permanent spot on any team at 1.
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Teddy had played half a season of NYC when he debuted. Rowe has played two full seasons of NYC and has come into a winning team.

I have seen a lot of fullbacks debut for the Tigers - Joel Caine, Shannon McDonnell, Shannon Gallant, Teddy just to name a few - and Rowe has been the least impressive. Apart from Teddy none of the ones I have named had the ability to be a long term first grade fullback.

McDonnell is actually a great example. I recall he had a fantastic debut in a beaten side in a Friday night game. He was the best Tiger on the park that night. Yet despite getting numerous chances over the years, at Tigers and Knights, McDonnell was never quite a first grader.

I hope I am wrong because Kurtis seems like a really good kid but I suspect I am not.

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@pHyR3 said:
@supercoach said:
We have won two games against quality football teams with Rowe at no1, so why on earth would we change things around.First week he was very hesitant as to be expected and against Parra he got more involved. I expect a slow but steady improvement each week.

All I can say is give the kid a break, its the hardest gig on the field and is putting in plenty of effort, okay he is no Teddy but he is doing a job for us and that is all you can ask for

to be honest, rowe did just as well as teddy did in his first 20-30minutes of FG. hesitant, but went okay.

i remember a time when moltzen was outplaying james tedesco and most on here agreed that teddy should remain on the wing with moltz at 1, let tedesco develop without immense pressure of playing NRL fullback.

rowe is obviously a good player, perhaps not the next billy slater but he deserves at least 1 or 2 more games to see what he can produce. definitely needs to bulk up before ever getting a permanent spot on any team at 1.
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Teddy had played half a season of NYC when he debuted. Rowe has played two full seasons of NYC and has come into a winning team.

I have seen a lot of fullbacks debut for the Tigers - Joel Caine, Shannon McDonnell, Shannon Gallant, Teddy just to name a few - and Rowe has been the least impressive. Apart from Teddy none of the ones I have named had the ability to be a long term first grade fullback.

McDonnell is actually a great example. I recall he had a fantastic debut in a beaten side in a Friday night game. He was the best Tiger on the park that night. Yet despite getting numerous chances over the years, at Tigers and Knights, McDonnell was never quite a first grader.

I hope I am wrong because Kurtis seems like a really good kid but I suspect I am not.

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Sorry not up to FG. Doesnt read the play and runs softer than moltzen did!!! Not sure what potter can do but just not Kurtis. Shame because he looked great in lower grades. Need troops back aSap

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