Kurtis Rowe [Discussion]

I don't care about missed tackle stats that a rookie fullback accumulates. They all do it. Slater still has high missed tackle counts.
 
Whenever I see kurtis Rowe play It always reminds me of this scene from waterboy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0etQ744o2O4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Way far away from being 1st grade standard
 
@BigUnit said:
Whenever I see kurtis Rowe play It always reminds me of this scene from waterboy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0etQ744o2O4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Way far away from being 1st grade standard

oh man , thats a bit below the belt (the clip)
might anger some …
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@Love the WestsTigers said:
@Tiger In The Gong said:
I cant read all the criticism.

He seems a nice decent kid who is struggling for confidence at the moment. Anasta and guys of that experience are fair game but he is still a boy and Wests Tigers fans shouldnt take out there petty frustrations on him.

Koro, Moses or Lulia to come into the squad next week, Rowe to go back and get some confidence and form.

Sorry mate, i dont think its all confidence.. Its Courage that he is not displaying

Curtis was a young lad when he made his debut, Brooks is another.
Brooks's defence was shocking game 1 this year, he bounced back and tackles more effectively than some.

-Koro has speed and takes the hit ups, his defence is really shocking so he wont be the answer.
-Luilia will come in for Simona or even Nofo is he is still not 100%

- I dont see Potter changing Fullback next game.

Im seeing nervousness and hesitation that could i guess come across as a lack of courage.

I agree he doesn't lack courage, he puts his body on the line and can catch a footy.

Unfortunately I see a general lack of ability, and he knows he isn't up to scratch, so he doesn't back himself. When the game was done and dusted he actually put his head down a few times, looked 10x the player.

However I just don't think he has it. There is a killer instinct in the best footballers, that makes them dive on that loose ball, punish opposition for their mistakes, carry defenders over the line - this lad hasn't got it, sorry lad.

When you are whippet thin, you have to be prepared to run whippet fast in traffic.

And he must have missed at least 3-4 tackles in the single play leading up to Sezer's try, including a lamentable turnstyle effort on Sezer himself.

Positioning for the Bird grubber try already discussed. It's Bird for God's sake, not Carl Lewis.

It's been an uninspiring few weeks, we've given the kid a few weeks chance, I think we try to find another solution at the back.
 
@Eddie said:
@smeghead said:
He gave up chasing Don.

That is the end of him as far as I am concerned.

At least have a go

I was disgusted with that. Sure it was next to no hope, but that reminded me of Moltzen. It was pathetic for a young bloke to just give up like that.

I was willing to go with Potter on the basis of his like for like changes. However I had not seen much of Rowe. Now I can see what people were talking about, not up to it, not sure he will be in the future either.

Not that it wasn't a difficult one to defend, it was, but Brooks chased hard and Rowe just fannied about like a kid in mini league. He managed to both not pressure Carter and not chase Don.

Very unimpressed, he was found severely wanting and arguably at fault for all 3 Titans tries. Out you go, Kurtis Rowe. I say no! Etc etc, submit your rhymes here.
 
Yes, I know he has been thrown into the deep end early, but I thought that he was pretty useless today. His tackle attempts were weak arm-slaps, and he seemed both disinterested and ineffective in attack. Missed as many tackles as he made, and was it just me, or did he stop chasing the Titans player after the chargedown, before chasing again when he realised he was the only chaser?

In his defense, he did a good job to deny the try in the far corner, and forced a drop-out late in the game, but was ineffective otherwise.

I know he's young, and low on confidence, but he won't gain any confidence with performances like that. To be honest, I would go as far to say that I would have preferred Moltzen back there today.

Highlights how crucial the signing of Tedesco is.

Of course, I'm not the best judge out there. Just wondering what everyone else thought of Rowe today.
 
Sorry, I didn't realise there was already another thread on this topic. If this thread could be deleted, that'd be great. Sorry.
 
@shakey4d said:
@Irvine said:
Big difference Sirro Brooks Teddy and Noffa all have the pedigree. They earned their place by outstanding displays in the lower grades and at the time of making their NRL debuts were still eligible to play in 20's.

Kurtis Rowe at times struggled to hold onto the fullback spot in 20's and has not played well in NSW cup now that his 20's days are over. His form in NSW cup was described as s*** yet he was promoted to NRL.

Won't be there next game. Pott's just go with your gut and stop listening to Payten.

What do you suggest? With simona out. Nofa or patty to fullback or promote Abuo-Sleiman.

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I think Potter will toss up between Mitchell Moses and Abou-Sleiman.

Simona and Noffa don't have the footy brain to play fullback and Richards is not up to it as we have seen.
 
@jirskyr said:
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@Love the WestsTigers said:
@Tiger In The Gong said:
I cant read all the criticism.

He seems a nice decent kid who is struggling for confidence at the moment. Anasta and guys of that experience are fair game but he is still a boy and Wests Tigers fans shouldnt take out there petty frustrations on him.

Koro, Moses or Lulia to come into the squad next week, Rowe to go back and get some confidence and form.

Sorry mate, i dont think its all confidence.. Its Courage that he is not displaying

Curtis was a young lad when he made his debut, Brooks is another.
Brooks's defence was shocking game 1 this year, he bounced back and tackles more effectively than some.

-Koro has speed and takes the hit ups, his defence is really shocking so he wont be the answer.
-Luilia will come in for Simona or even Nofo is he is still not 100%

- I dont see Potter changing Fullback next game.

Im seeing nervousness and hesitation that could i guess come across as a lack of courage.

I agree he doesn't lack courage, he puts his body on the line and can catch a footy.

Unfortunately I see a general lack of ability, and he knows he isn't up to scratch, so he doesn't back himself. When the game was done and dusted he actually put his head down a few times, looked 10x the player.

However I just don't think he has it. There is a killer instinct in the best footballers, that makes them dive on that loose ball, punish opposition for their mistakes, carry defenders over the line - this lad hasn't got it, sorry lad.

When you are whippet thin, you have to be prepared to run whippet fast in traffic.

And he must have missed at least 3-4 tackles in the single play leading up to Sezer's try, including a lamentable turnstyle effort on Sezer himself.

Positioning for the Bird grubber try already discussed. It's Bird for God's sake, not Carl Lewis.

It's been an uninspiring few weeks, we've given the kid a few weeks chance, I think we try to find another solution at the back.

All fair and measured points, right down to noting how he plays differently when the pressure is out of the game. Im looking forward to the next team selection to see what comes of it.
 
You called it well stripes, Rowe tried his best, but he was lost in the game, a player not ready for first grade, he has lots of room for improvement.
 
@Eye Of Da Tiger said:
I hate the way he attempts to run the ball back.Shows no heart nor conviction and that's a worry.

That's my disappointment

I'm trying to explain too many of the kids at footy on the weekend , the harder you run the less likely you are to get hurt

If you go hard , aim at a hole you won't get hurt and probably get a quicker play the ball
 
What about this Sleiman bloke who is having a run in reggies for us? I haven't seen him play before, but he had big wraps on him at the dogs a little while ago. What's everyone's opinion on him?
 
This criticism is massively over the top.

Clearly he is no star, but what do you expect from your back up players.

He made a bad miss on the first try. Other than that, he was basically in the right spot most of the time, go to the ball reasonably quickly and ran for over 100 m due to getting to the ball quickly. He is not a great ball returner.

He chimed in ok a couple times without adding loads, but not letting the play break down.

He is never going to be a first choice fullback, but as a fill in, he is doing ok,

We didnt lose cause of Rowe.
 
@Goose said:
This criticism is massively over the top.

Clearly he is no star, but what do you expect from your back up players.

He made a bad miss on the first try. Other than that, he was basically in the right spot most of the time, go to the ball reasonably quickly and ran for over 100 m due to getting to the ball quickly. He is not a great ball returner.

He chimed in ok a couple times without adding loads, but not letting the play break down.

He is never going to be a first choice fullback, but as a fill in, he is doing ok,

We didnt lose cause of Rowe.

No we didn't, but he's not adding to our attack either, which is a problem. We're seriously lacking spark in the backline thanks to Anasta lacking creativity. It's easy to see we are spoiled to an extent with Tedesco as he offers another ballplaying option.
 
As someone said earlier, Rowe actually looked a bit more promising in attack in the last 10.

As for other options, I'm certain noffa will kill it at fullback. He made around a dozen try saving tackles in cover- he was all over the place trying to save tries, diffuse kicks, bombs everything. He reads the game well

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@innsaneink said:
Rowe clearly isnt ready for first grade and Potter needs to seriously think persisting with him could have averse affects for his development
I think he has no option but to start shuffling a few players but with simona looking at a holiday, there really only Richards left…and that leaves our backline a mess

Might be a lifeline for Koro & Lulia

yay

I agree Ink. Rowe isn't adding any value to the team at the moment. He'll probably be there against the Roosters as Potter won't want to place the club under salary cap pressure if it can be avoided, but some secondary options need to be considered because our attack is revolving around Brooks and to a lesser extent Austin at the moment, and Anasta and Rowe simply aren't coming up with anything to trouble the defence.
 
@willow said:
@Goose said:
This criticism is massively over the top.

Clearly he is no star, but what do you expect from your back up players.

He made a bad miss on the first try. Other than that, he was basically in the right spot most of the time, go to the ball reasonably quickly and ran for over 100 m due to getting to the ball quickly. He is not a great ball returner.

He chimed in ok a couple times without adding loads, but not letting the play break down.

He is never going to be a first choice fullback, but as a fill in, he is doing ok,

We didnt lose cause of Rowe.

No we didn't, but he's not adding to our attack either, which is a problem. We're seriously lacking spark in the backline thanks to **Anasta lacking creativity**. It's easy to see we are spoiled to an extent with Tedesco as he offers another ballplaying option.

Rowe is just a kid doing all that he can, he is not a world beater just a back up player to our first grade fullback. He does what he needs to do, clearly he isnt going to be as good as Teddy cause he would be there instead of Teddy from round 1\. People on here need a touch of reality. The real issue we have at the moment is the dinosaur playing in 6\. That number seems to be a weststigers curse for the last 3 years. If Austin does not start in the 6 (pending fitness) for the rest of the season, then this is going to be huge reason why/if we dont make the finals this year. In the years past its been our forward pack, thats not the reason this year.
 

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