Kurtis Rowe [Discussion]

@helmesy said:
Stick with him, I think he will keep improving and seems to have a great attitude.
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Yeah, I agree. A bit too early to be making a call on Rowe's potential in my opinion. I'm very happy with what he a produced so far and am prepared to give him another 12 months before defining whether or not he'll make it as a top notch number 1\. He's only 20 years old for crying out loud.
 
@jirskyr said:
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@alexaki said:
Look at how Tede$co played last year and compare him to Rowe's performances so far…they are on par...Tede$co was not brilliant last year....just solid.

I say give Rowe 12 months then assess him....he has speed...just needs more confidence, experience and a bit of bulk (like Tede$co) did this year.

A fullback who does not run courage lines through the ruck is as useful as two gloves is to Jack Newton in terms of the modern game

Too true.

Rowe is a good lad, but unless something dramatic changes, he doesn't have what it takes to be anything other than an average first-grader. We need more than average.

Moltzen has the same problem; footy is made up of two types of moments: the planned and the unplanned. You can do all the prep and video work you want, but the reality is that footy is often won or lost based on how you react to the unplanned. In these situations, impulse, intuition and instinct take over from planning.

What separates the best players from the rest is that their instinct attenuates their core fears, their hesitation, their reluctance. Things are done automatically without self-preservation.

Rowe runs the footy like he is afraid of being smashed. He passes well before the line, because he doesn't want to be blind-sided. Timmy Moltzen has always done the same, fear of making a mistake or getting hurt. Half the reason commentators go ape for Brooks is because he is not afraid to take on the line, get belted for his troubles.

Greg Inglis does not do this, he does not hesitate, give up or drop his head. Besides the physical attributes he is blessed with, he has ultra-competitiveness running through his veins. That is why Tim Simona poleaxed him this year, but that is why he is a great. That is why you throw him the footy when the stakes are high.
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Exactly!

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@yeti said:
@helmesy said:
Stick with him, I think he will keep improving and seems to have a great attitude.

Yeah, I agree. A bit too early to be making a call on Rowe's potential in my opinion. I'm very happy with what he a produced so far and am prepared to give him another 12 months before defining whether or not he'll make it as a top notch number 1\. He's only 20 years old for crying out loud.
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Does "stick with him" mean keep selecting him in firsts or drop him to play fullback in State Cup. You can't have it both ways.
 
Give Rowe the patience we have given Tedesco, I am sure he will have other quality that will compensate the speed of his predecessor. I can see that his game has already improve. With a few more months under his belt and a bit more weight on him will help him with his cause.
 
Was our best despite conceding a few tries. Tried hard, ran hard and was only as defensively poor as the rest of the side. Should take the fullback spot off Moses next week if we aren't about playing favourites. Moses and Austin should have been the halves and Sironen can go and get stuffed.
 
I like him, good kid. His problem earlier in the yr when he was copping it was that he wasn't Tedesco.
 
@MacDougall said:
Was our best despite conceding a few tries. Tried hard, ran hard and was only as defensively poor as the rest of the side. Should take the fullback spot off Moses next week if we aren't about playing favourites. Moses and Austin should have been the halves and Sironen can go and get stuffed.
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When you have such a defensive liability as Simona on your inside sometimes you do not look to good , but he played pretty strong tonight should of been there last week, I actually think he is a better option at fullback than Moses.
 
I can't agree with the OP. He was found awfully out of position for Wright's second and was pretty easily out jumped for his third. I can't be sure but I thought he was the one who rushed in for his first as well. It was a pretty ordinary game from him. I understand he was playing in a somewhat unfamiliar position but if that's your job then that's the job you have to do

In general, I don't see it yet to be honest. He gets manhandled when returning the ball and apart from one game his positional play wasn't the best either. No doubt the kids got ticker but seems to be a depth player at the moment who will ply his trade well in NSW Cup for the foreseeable future.
 
Is it just me or did he look bigger? He didn't get dominated in tackles like he did earlier in the year. I base this thread mainly on the fact that he was one of the only players who managed a tackle break and almost made 100 metres. He would have probably gone the length of the field too if Moga didn't ankle tap him, the kid is very quick. I reckon he's quicker than Tedesco.
 
@MacDougall said:
Is it just me or did he look bigger? He didn't get dominated in tackles like he did earlier in the year. I base this thread mainly on the fact that he was one of the only players who managed a tackle break and almost made 100 metres. He would have probably gone the length of the field too if Moga didn't ankle tap him, the kid is very quick. I reckon he's quicker than Tedesco.
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He got slower since he bulked up. Based on NSW cup games this year
 
Ah ok. Well yeah maybe he is bigger. He actually didn't look too small to play wing in first grade.

Would have him at fullback next week anyway. He's a better option there than Moses, and Moses is a better option in the halves than Sironen obviously. Play players in their positions!!! Why would you have a five-eighth and fullback, a fullback on the wing and a backrower in the halves!? Potter put the Sheens hat on with this team selection.
 
@coopy said:
think I'd back Teddy when fully fit. Who did he run down in the nines - wasn't it Kevin Gordon?
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He stood up David Mead and ran down Albert Kelly iirc.

I think Tedesco has more acceleration than Rowe, but I think Rowe would be faster over the 100? It'd be close. Tedesco almost got caught by Anthony Don in the nines when he scored that awesome try … who is actually underratedly quick himself tbh.
 
@MacDougall said:
Ah ok. Well yeah maybe he is bigger. He actually didn't look too small to play wing in first grade.

Would have him at fullback next week anyway. He's a better option there than Moses, and Moses is a better option in the halves than Sironen obviously. Play players in their positions!!! Why would you have a five-eighth and fullback, a fullback on the wing and a backrower in the halves!? Potter put the Sheens hat on with this team selection.
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The Reason Moses won't play 5/8 as he can not make a one on one tackle ,he wanted nothing to do with anyone running front on tonight and to be frank would be thrown around like a rag doll. If any want him at 5/8 watch the game again he needs another season in the reggies.
 
I said the same thing in the run then all of a sudden he took down a rampaging Tariq Sims, so maybe he really did just get bamboozled every other time. What I saw of Moses in NSW cup indicated to me that he's a better defender than Brooks tbh.
 
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