Latu Fainu #282

tig_prmz said:
You got Black at the Broncos, Woods at Dogs with plenty of players in front of them, but willing to bide their time.

How are those clubs convincing them to stay and develop?

Why weren't we able to do that with other players?
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I think the issue is identifying winning personality traits rather than winning players . And more importantly players who exhibit the correct behaviours rather than those who were a part of winning cultures .
I’d love to see the storm evaluation for this. They must have a psych evaluation or something that identifies key traits they are looking to employ.
I think we have been too easily baffled in the interview process from guys who “show” these behaviours rather than guys who live it.
The better we get at identifying who’s full of shit , rather than driving standards , the better we will be .
Even the whole concept of the “no dickheads” policy is a form of trying to figure this out , when really there’s been plenty of dickheads who are really good for standards and culture , whether we want to admit it or not .
 
tigahhh said:
Braith and the guys on his podcast said Latu looks like he will be a better half than galvin and Gus got the wrong one

interestingly a reason galvin was not happy with the club during pre-seaon was because the team preferred Latu, apparently training better, more committed and suited the combinations more
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Yeah, I don’t know about that. Latu came back overweight and they wanted to offer Galvin six figures.
 
Moh said:
Katoa is the best young half in the competition, and Latu IMO is the closest thing to him. Galvin not even in the picture.

Not to say Galvin sucks, rate (but hate) him, but not anywhere as good as the above in the halves.

The game just slows down with Katoa/Latu, in the good way.
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Agreed on Katoa.

It's not really a fair comparison because Latu and Galvin are COMPLETELY different players...

Latu plays his best as a #7. He is better close to the ruck where he can use his explosiveness to find gaps (like an Andrew Johns) but plays his role servicing the other players around him with ball the rest of the time..
Galvin plays like a ball running #6 and is effectively another Luai.

If we didnt sign Luai, we could have been playing #6 Galvin and #7 Latu... and that would have potentially been a deadly combination in the future...

I also don't buy the narrative that it doesn't matter if you have 6 or 7 on your back.. they are very different roles and have been for a long time... Over time this may evolve (as we sawwith inside and outside centres), but the way the game is played now, 6 and 7 are still very different roles imo..

Galvin is not a #7 and this is just a short term plan for the bulldgos. Next year they will absolutely suck if they use Galvin at #7, it just isnt his game. It's like the Tigers trying to move api to #7 when we have injuries. It doesnt work. Doggies are moving toward Galvin #6 and Woods #7.... they are all in on this... Burton wont have a contract past 2027 with the doggies. Ciraldo thinks he's building a dynasty... he's trying to get too smart and i would be suprised if they end up winning nothing under him.
 
mtd#2 said:
Agreed on Katoa.

It's not really a fair comparison because Latu and Galvin are COMPLETELY different players...

Latu plays his best as a #7. He is better close to the ruck where he can use his explosiveness to find gaps (like an Andrew Johns) but plays his role servicing the other players around him with ball the rest of the time..
Galvin plays like a ball running #6 and is effectively another Luai.

If we didnt sign Luai, we could have been playing #6 Galvin and #7 Latu... and that would have potentially been a deadly combination in the future...

I also don't buy the narrative that it doesn't matter if you have 6 or 7 on your back.. they are very different roles and have been for a long time... Over time this may evolve (as we sawwith inside and outside centres), but the way the game is played now, 6 and 7 are still very different roles imo..

Galvin is not a #7 and this is just a short term plan for the bulldgos. Next year they will absolutely suck if they use Galvin at #7, it just isnt his game. It's like the Tigers trying to move api to #7 when we have injuries. It doesnt work. Doggies are moving toward Galvin #6 and Woods #7.... they are all in on this... Burton wont have a contract past 2027 with the doggies. Ciraldo thinks he's building a dynasty... he's trying to get too smart and i would be suprised if they end up winning nothing under him.
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i honestly think galvin’s future is a ball playing lock, I’m not sure he’s even a half
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Yeah, I don’t know about that. Latu came back overweight and they wanted to offer Galvin six figures.
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Latu was emotionally eating because he wasn't coping to well with his brother being in jail.

So he came back overweight and trained the house down.. The players saw the effort he put in and the whole senior playing group were behind him.. Multiple sources confirm this, not just Braith.
 
tigahhh said:
i honestly think galvin’s future is a ball playing lock, I’m not sure he’s even a half
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he isn't, not one bit..
bookmark this post and i guarantee you that in 2027 he is playing #6 and Burton is on his way out. It may happen sooner.
Dogs are all in on Woods and Galvin.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Well, the Dogs are cactus then, cos they obviously had visions of him being their long term 7.
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no Mitch Woods is their long term #7 and they aren't shy about telling everyone.

talk is that Burton is already aware of their plan and its causing issues inside camp...

doggies arent happy families, no matter how much their cronies try and spin it...
 
mtd#2 said:
no Mitch Woods is their long term #7 and they aren't shy about telling everyone.

talk is that Burton is already aware of their plan and its causing issues inside camp...

doggies arent happy families, no matter how much their cronies try and spin it...
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Someone the other day said Burton to Parra next year.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
It’s inconceivable that their starting 6, 7 and 9 could all be gone next year after the start they had to the year.
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This is why gus was punted from the panthers . He got them near where they needed him to , but his meddling had to be put to pasture .
I can see a similar thing at the dogs , only difference is Gus has a genuinely huge legacy there , much more than the riff . So ir could be a lot harder .
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Someone the other day said Burton to Parra next year.
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Burton is 3 times the player Galvin is … wtf are the dogs thinking. I’ll go one step further … I was far more impressed with AD when he was the golden boy than I ever was with Galvin. At least we won more than 5 games . I DO NOT GET IT! … he was a talent when he was coming through , but I always assumed lock or edge backrow . This guy will get all the rep jerseys in a few years and it will feel like when Bwaith got all the jerseys above Barrett , Fittler at the back end and whoever . Only worse because at least Bwaith won some shit .
 
Lestronge said:
I think the issue is identifying winning personality traits rather than winning players . And more importantly players who exhibit the correct behaviours rather than those who were a part of winning cultures .
I’d love to see the storm evaluation for this. They must have a psych evaluation or something that identifies key traits they are looking to employ.
I think we have been too easily baffled in the interview process from guys who “show” these behaviours rather than guys who live it.
The better we get at identifying who’s full of shit , rather than driving standards , the better we will be .
Even the whole concept of the “no dickheads” policy is a form of trying to figure this out , when really there’s been plenty of dickheads who are really good for standards and culture , whether we want to admit it or not .
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yeh 100% agree with everything.

Bellamy said over a decade ago that they had a "coffee test" of sorts where they saw how a player would speak to the wait staff at the cafe. Not sure how true it is though.

My conspiracy theory in this is that we sign players that are well known or have a brand to them, those that have Insta followers such as Taylan May, James Roberts, Luai, Naden, Jack Bird etc. Obviously they're all good players but I feel that the $$ value they bring in through exposure is weighed into the signings. That's not to say the "winning traits" aren't valued, but may be not valued as much when we sign players.
 
Moh said:
Katoa is the best young half in the competition, and Latu IMO is the closest thing to him. Galvin not even in the picture.

Not to say Galvin sucks, rate (but hate) him, but not anywhere as good as the above in the halves.

The game just slows down with Katoa/Latu, in the good way.
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I'm not a big fan of comparing such different players.

We could have Thurston, Cronk, Smith and Slater but still not make top 8 without the support they're given.

Right now, raw talent, personality of player etc isn't our biggest concern. Biggest issue is the support, coaching and emotional intelligence provided to them when they're here.
 
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