Liam Fulton's horror injury revealed

[Glennb]

Fair dinkum a few of you guys are REALLY making a mountain out of a molehill here. Tooth and others seem to want to claim a Roswellesque cover up because Sheens said he had been crook all week. Here is a wild theory, what about if he WAS crook all week, with busted/popped rib cartilidges. it would make you bloody crook, a lot of pain and hard to breathe. No cover because he was expected to get needled up. Needle didnt work.

I really can't see the conspiracy here.

Needles dont work ALL the time. It is reasonably common for it not to work. I have heard it reported frequently. Also, none of us are doctors but it is also obvious that few of you have ever had one of these injections. I t is NOT an exact science. It is not stuck into flesh or muscle like some were claiming the other day. It needs to be injected directly into the site of the soft tissue damage(only works on cartlidge, tendon, ligament) It is a MASSIVE long needle that gets pushed deep into the fleshy bit and then WIGGLED around until the needle touches the direct site of the damage (this is very clear to both the patient and then the doctor). Then the needle is pulled back a bit, then pushed in again directly into the tendon/ligament/cartilidge and a small amount of local anatheatic injected into that damaged part to put it to sleep for a while. INCREDIBLY painful experience and not an exact thing.

The level of discussion here I think has been simplistic and ridiculous. People are clutching for conspiracies and things that are simply not there.

 

[innsaneink]

Its pretty clear we have some ostriches among the fanbase

The kind of response expected from you Ink. Cynicism with no substance.

I dont have time for substance, just my 2 bobs worth…re read the thread, theres plenty of substance in it

 

[The_Tooth]

One final say then I'm out, unless questioned directly. I know this isn't a huge conspiracy, I've only had so much to say because it seems most people are missing my point and accusing me of blatantly making things up.

From everything I've heard and read I just believe that a needle was required and for whatever reason it didn't work. That might happen every week at a different club, I dont care. That should of been the end of it, but instead the story has been danced around especially with Sheens post match comments. If you cant see something a miss with all that then I give up. Each to their own, but I maintain my concern as to why they wouldn't come out and say what happened. Not a single mention of a needle by the club. They dont want to talk about it.

I had to mention QLD didn't I :laughing:
For the record, my father grew up at Leichardt, followed his father in supporting Balmain. Worked pubs and clubs in the area and generally lived and breathed Balmain. Even worked with Hemsley for some time. I grew up in the Sutherland Shire but was always going to be a Balmain boy. Spent much of my childhood sitting on the hill at leichardt watching the Tigers of the 80's. More recently lived at Padstow and would take my little girl out to Campbelltown to nearly every home game. Moved to QLD 2 years ago with a 6 month old boy who has never been to Leichardt or Campbelltown. He's nearly 3 now and only seen the Tigers live 3 times. But he's already a Tiger too. We might live in QLD but we are born and bred Tigers. Always will be.

 

[Glennb]

One final say then I'm out, unless questioned directly. I know this isn't a huge conspiracy, I've only had so much to say because it seems most people are missing my point and accusing me of blatantly making things up.
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FWIW I havent lumped you into the other lot making things up wrt what may or may not have happened in the change room. I get your point about Liam "being crook", I just dont think it is as big a deal.

From everything I've heard and read I just believe that a needle was required and for whatever reason it didn't work. That might happen every week at a different club, I dont care. That should of been the end of it, but instead the story has been danced around especially with Sheens post match comments. If you cant see something a miss with all that then I give up. Each to their own, but I maintain my concern as to why they wouldn't come out and say what happened. Not a single mention of a needle by the club. They dont want to talk about it..

Why SHOULD the club come out and say anything? What is the purpose of telling everyone? I know you are concerned that they said he was "crook" (I heard Sheens interview, he said crook, not sick or ill) but if it gets to semantics of whether he said he was crook and he meant sore or injured….well does it really matter? I mean if he says he was crook, meaning his sore ribs and he didnt pass the physical ...well. FWIW I agree it was probably a problem with the needle, due to the fac they didnt have someone ready, but ...it happens

 

[stryker]

ST - Just heard from a reliable source that is plausible and a risk to puncture a lung with a needle to the sternum :astonished:

That would seem to exonerate the medical staff from a negligence argument wouldnt it? It is an appreciable risk in such procedures.

I've had pain killing injections before and I can tell you that they are pretty bloody hit and miss. I wouldn't call negligence on this matter.

However I dont see what the big problem is with saying sorry, we missed….because I can tell you it happens a lot! Sometimes you need it done several times because the first couple dont hit the spot.

If the needle story is false, a reasonable bloke would say it isnt, then why wasnt a replacement named for the sick Liam instead of grabbing a bloke out of the stands? This is why people are smelling a rat.....

 

[Glennb]

I heard the Sheens interview and he didnt say "sick" or "ill" he said crook. He could very well have meant crook with his ribs and they expected a needle would fix it, and it didnt….

I really cant see the conspiracy or cover up. true I could invent one...but I'mtoo busy.

Glenn

 

[southerntiger]

ST - Just heard from a reliable source that is plausible and a risk to puncture a lung with a needle to the sternum :astonished:

That would seem to exonerate the medical staff from a negligence argument wouldnt it? It is an appreciable risk in such procedures.

I've had pain killing injections before and I can tell you that they are pretty bloody hit and miss. I wouldn't call negligence on this matter.

However I dont see what the big problem is with saying sorry, we missed….because I can tell you it happens a lot! Sometimes you need it done several times because the first couple dont hit the spot.

If the needle story is false, a reasonable bloke would say it isnt, then why wasnt a replacement named for the sick Liam instead of grabbing a bloke out of the stands? This is why people are smelling a rat.....

Stryker,

I dont disagree with you. But the this whole thread stems from repeated claims that our medical staff are incompetent hacks. That claim has been my concern.

 

[benjibrotown]

Just for fantasy reasons, does anybody know whether Liam is a chance for a late inclusion to the side??

 

[Benson]

Going nuts over an article written int he Tele.

These guys are liers and have to submit something each day.

Dont be so GULABLE.

Dr Kuah cant puncture a lung with a needle designed to numbe a sturnum injury or rib complaint…

For crying out loud some of you guys calling for heads to roll must still be in schcol, cause you aint that smart about the real world and business yet....

The Truth is yet to be revealed.

PS It was Jason on Debut and not Alan S.

Guess Again

 

[Benson]

Just for fantasy reasons, does anybody know whether Liam is a chance for a late inclusion to the side??

No chance

 

[Guest]

There has been enough speculation in this thread. It ends now.