Liddle

[Furious1]

Sure i saw somewhere the club was waiting to see Liddle stayed injury free before re-signing him. Its a fair call. If the club forked out for a couple of years contract and he was injured again soon after everyone in here would be screaming blue murder.
Like others, i want to see his minutes increase so we can see how he goes over more game time and because when he is on we look a lot sharper. Don't forget though, Farah put in a beauty of a kick for a repeat set after we had been under enormous pressure the other night and i wonder who is going to come up with those plays when he is gone. I think Farah still has plenty to offer this year, but i do hope he retires at then end.

 

[rustycage]

Sure i saw somewhere the club was waiting to see Liddle stayed injury free before re-signing him. Its a fair call. If the club forked out for a couple of years contract and he was injured again soon after everyone in here would be screaming blue murder.
Like others, i want to see his minutes increase so we can see how he goes over more game time and because when he is on we look a lot sharper. Don't forget though, Farah put in a beauty of a kick for a repeat set after we had been under enormous pressure the other night and i wonder who is going to come up with those plays when he is gone. I think Farah still has plenty to offer this year, but i do hope he retires at then end.

Fantastic effort from Liddle against the Bunnies last night. More of the same game time please.

 

[Blocker1963]

I totally agree, his delivery in passing, speed around the rucks and defense was A1, the scrum base one wasn't his fault, I hope they keep him, he showed why.

 

[mike]

I totally agree, his delivery in passing, speed around the rucks and defense was A1, the scrum base one wasn't his fault, I hope they keep him, he showed why.

Yeah it was and he needs to own it. Otherwise a good game.

 

[Fraze23]

I thought he actually looked pretty solid in defence last night too which was a huge plus. His running game has always been there and on a dry track he probably would have wreaked havoc. I hope we hold onto him.

 

[Juro]

I felt for Liddle when he knocked on from the scrum, leading to Souths' field goal. They were very tough conditions last night, as shown by the 70% completion rate. He was one among many to spill the ball...

 

[slm9]

Robbie played well for about 20 mins tonight but is not the future of the club.Liddle needs more time on the paddock because i think he is the future

Looks like that is starting to happen. Played 40 odd minutes last night. Double the game before.

 

[happy_tiger]

The big thing is if we are going to have Liddle pulling bigger minutes , we need to continue with the course of action we are on

I think you will see Farah's time on the park gradually lessen and Liddle's steadily increase

You can't just throw him out there and expect him to get 80 minutes and remain as effective as he is

Wouldn't mind seeing something different .....Liddle starting and Farah coming on as the replacement , just to see how he will cope

 

[momo_amp_medo]

@jirskyr could not improve on this comment. I think that if you compare Liddle to someone like Smith from Melbourne you would take your money down there every time. Nowadays you need a bigger frame, speedy, tackling machine with a kicking game at number nine..... and Liddle does not tick all the boxes.

 

[Tiger_Fan18]

Robbie is great for the experience he brings when we are under pressure, but the question is, can Liddle play for a whole 80 mins?

 

[happy_tiger]

@jirskyr could not improve on this comment. I think that if you compare Liddle to someone like Smith from Melbourne you would take your money down there every time. Nowadays you need a bigger frame, speedy, tackling machine with a kicking game at number nine..... and Liddle does not tick all the boxes.

You mean Brandon , not Cameron I'm guessing

 

[momo_amp_medo]

@Tiger_Fan18 Yes ..... sorry about that.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

@momo_amp_medo
Liddle is starting to show the promise we all know he has with the extra game time he been getting this promise will come through.His break against the Cowboys helped win the game and the break against Souffs put us in good position for Chee Kams try also Oliver Clark with more game time could be a winner for us reminds a little of Matt Lodge in his early days with us .

 

[Tiges19]

Hes going ok but anymore than 2 errors per game from now on and we'll obviously have to look elsewhere for 2020 because the hooker has to be the rock upon which the rest of the team can build

 

[pawsandclaws1]

@Elderslie_Tiger I believe Maguire is easing Liddle back in to the rigours of the NRL. By his last two games we can see this is working. I have no doubt this plan is being communicated to Liddle. Alison was that Clark's second NRL game and first start? He had a good go and with a full Maguire off season will come back a very solid unit. Well done young fellow.

 

[2041]

Liddle was coming on against tiring opposition, which really suits his speed. Liddle is a real "fresh legs" player.

Problem for Liddle is every time we start him at #9 he gets injured or dented. He rarely defends for big minutes. He also hasn't displayed a kicking game.

I've never been against keeping Liddle on and we've invested a lot of time in him now, but he needs to bring his speed and accuracy into something more like 80 minutes, like a Damien Cook. Otherwise he will forever be the bloke you only bring on in spurts because he can't withstand long early-game minutes week in and out.

I hear what you're saying, but you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good here. If we hold out for an 80 minute hooker with attacking impact we could be waiting for a long time because there just aren't many of them about.

Cook, and even he's showing signs of running out of gas. Cam Smith, but he's the GOAT. Then what? Most 80 minute hookers are primarily defenders (McCullough, McInnes) and most hookers with attacking impact don't play 80 (Koroisau, Brandon Smith).

The question mark with Liddle remains whether his body will hold up to the rigours of being starting hooker in the NRL. That's why I was supportive of keeping Farah around for another year: I'd much rather have him available to step in when Liddle isn't fit than a McIlwrick type (and indeed we got four points from our first two games largely on the strength of Farah's attack ).

For the rest of this season, I'd like to see if Liddle is ready to handle 60 minutes. If he is, the question for next year is who covers the other 20: Farah, the young kid we've signed or some other (cheap) option. I don't think we need to assume Liddle has to play 80: someone who's young, cheap and good for 50-60 is much better than average for the position across the comp.

 

[jirskyr]

Liddle was coming on against tiring opposition, which really suits his speed. Liddle is a real "fresh legs" player.

Problem for Liddle is every time we start him at #9 he gets injured or dented. He rarely defends for big minutes. He also hasn't displayed a kicking game.

I've never been against keeping Liddle on and we've invested a lot of time in him now, but he needs to bring his speed and accuracy into something more like 80 minutes, like a Damien Cook. Otherwise he will forever be the bloke you only bring on in spurts because he can't withstand long early-game minutes week in and out.

I hear what you're saying, but you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good here. If we hold out for an 80 minute hooker with attacking impact we could be waiting for a long time because there just aren't many of them about.

Cook, and even he's showing signs of running out of gas. Cam Smith, but he's the GOAT. Then what? Most 80 minute hookers are primarily defenders (McCullough, McInnes) and most hookers with attacking impact don't play 80 (Koroisau, Brandon Smith).

The question mark with Liddle remains whether his body will hold up to the rigours of being starting hooker in the NRL. That's why I was supportive of keeping Farah around for another year: I'd much rather have him available to step in when Liddle isn't fit than a McIlwrick type (and indeed we got four points from our first two games largely on the strength of Farah's attack ).

For the rest of this season, I'd like to see if Liddle is ready to handle 60 minutes. If he is, the question for next year is who covers the other 20: Farah, the young kid we've signed or some other (cheap) option. I don't think we need to assume Liddle has to play 80: someone who's young, cheap and good for 50-60 is much better than average for the position across the comp.

I agree with your comments, the real question for me is can Liddle ever be a starting hooker or at least produce consistent output for >60 minutes? Every time he's been asked to do that he's struggled, so a player of his potential calibre you don't just want them riding the pine for 40-50 minutes per game.

I agree that Farah / Liddle combination can work. I think last night against Souths was a step in the right direction, getting Liddle on much earlier and changing up the tempo - because Liddle does bring a real tempo change to the attack esp if he's combined with a fresh Mikaele and someone like Aloiai.

 

[2041]

Liddle was coming on against tiring opposition, which really suits his speed. Liddle is a real "fresh legs" player.

Problem for Liddle is every time we start him at #9 he gets injured or dented. He rarely defends for big minutes. He also hasn't displayed a kicking game.

I've never been against keeping Liddle on and we've invested a lot of time in him now, but he needs to bring his speed and accuracy into something more like 80 minutes, like a Damien Cook. Otherwise he will forever be the bloke you only bring on in spurts because he can't withstand long early-game minutes week in and out.

I hear what you're saying, but you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good here. If we hold out for an 80 minute hooker with attacking impact we could be waiting for a long time because there just aren't many of them about.

Cook, and even he's showing signs of running out of gas. Cam Smith, but he's the GOAT. Then what? Most 80 minute hookers are primarily defenders (McCullough, McInnes) and most hookers with attacking impact don't play 80 (Koroisau, Brandon Smith).

The question mark with Liddle remains whether his body will hold up to the rigours of being starting hooker in the NRL. That's why I was supportive of keeping Farah around for another year: I'd much rather have him available to step in when Liddle isn't fit than a McIlwrick type (and indeed we got four points from our first two games largely on the strength of Farah's attack ).

For the rest of this season, I'd like to see if Liddle is ready to handle 60 minutes. If he is, the question for next year is who covers the other 20: Farah, the young kid we've signed or some other (cheap) option. I don't think we need to assume Liddle has to play 80: someone who's young, cheap and good for 50-60 is much better than average for the position across the comp.

I agree with your comments, the real question for me is can Liddle ever be a starting hooker or at least produce consistent output for >60 minutes? Every time he's been asked to do that he's struggled, so a player of his potential calibre you don't just want them riding the pine for 40-50 minutes per game.

I agree that Farah / Liddle combination can work. I think last night against Souths was a step in the right direction, getting Liddle on much earlier and changing up the tempo - because Liddle does bring a real tempo change to the attack esp if he's combined with a fresh Mikaele and someone like Aloiai.

That's why I think it's crucial to start upping Liddle's minutes this season. If he can handle 60+ it'll be a different answer to who the other hooker for 2020 should be than if he's only really good for 40. Do we need someone to split the workload, provide impact off the bench or really just an injury backup?

 

[gallagher]

Liddle was coming on against tiring opposition, which really suits his speed. Liddle is a real "fresh legs" player.

Problem for Liddle is every time we start him at #9 he gets injured or dented. He rarely defends for big minutes. He also hasn't displayed a kicking game.

I've never been against keeping Liddle on and we've invested a lot of time in him now, but he needs to bring his speed and accuracy into something more like 80 minutes, like a Damien Cook. Otherwise he will forever be the bloke you only bring on in spurts because he can't withstand long early-game minutes week in and out.

I hear what you're saying, but you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good here. If we hold out for an 80 minute hooker with attacking impact we could be waiting for a long time because there just aren't many of them about.

Cook, and even he's showing signs of running out of gas. Cam Smith, but he's the GOAT. Then what? Most 80 minute hookers are primarily defenders (McCullough, McInnes) and most hookers with attacking impact don't play 80 (Koroisau, Brandon Smith).

The question mark with Liddle remains whether his body will hold up to the rigours of being starting hooker in the NRL. That's why I was supportive of keeping Farah around for another year: I'd much rather have him available to step in when Liddle isn't fit than a McIlwrick type (and indeed we got four points from our first two games largely on the strength of Farah's attack ).

For the rest of this season, I'd like to see if Liddle is ready to handle 60 minutes. If he is, the question for next year is who covers the other 20: Farah, the young kid we've signed or some other (cheap) option. I don't think we need to assume Liddle has to play 80: someone who's young, cheap and good for 50-60 is much better than average for the position across the comp.

I agree with your comments, the real question for me is can Liddle ever be a starting hooker or at least produce consistent output for >60 minutes? Every time he's been asked to do that he's struggled, so a player of his potential calibre you don't just want them riding the pine for 40-50 minutes per game.

I agree that Farah / Liddle combination can work. I think last night against Souths was a step in the right direction, getting Liddle on much earlier and changing up the tempo - because Liddle does bring a real tempo change to the attack esp if he's combined with a fresh Mikaele and someone like Aloiai.

That's why I think it's crucial to start upping Liddle's minutes this season. If he can handle 60+ it'll be a different answer to who the other hooker for 2020 should be than if he's only really good for 40. Do we need someone to split the workload, provide impact off the bench or really just an injury backup?

Madge handled Farah and Liddle well last night, the mix of minutes was spot on.