**live game feed** vs the Knights

[happy_tiger]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

 

[JC99]

Next week is important. If yesterday’s game can be a wake up call for the team and we can go out next week and play really well I’ll be happy. Hopefully that is our worst performance of the year and we don’t see another like it. Win our next two and build off that (even if it is against weaker opponents)

 

[fair dinkum]

Can we get Timmy Simona back?? Even betting against us he played better then this mob.

Let's not talk about a charity thief - I don't care if we lost a million games.

Could be worse, he could have been doing it in the name of a religion or something diabolical like that.

 

[Geo]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

No he concedes that being professional experienced rugby league players they sucked their attitude sucked and playing only two games together had absolutely nothing to do with that..but I guess that is beyond your comprehension..

 

[innsaneink]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So-called professionals

 

[twentyforty]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

That’s the thing about cliques within a group, you can call them combinations if you like , but the reality is that often they can have a negative impact on the entire group. It will eventually happen at Souths. imo

 

[happy_tiger]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

No he concedes that being professional experienced rugby league players they sucked their attitude sucked and playing only two games together had absolutely nothing to do with that..but I guess that is beyond your comprehension..

Maybe he needs to concede that the writing was on the wall last weekend as well ...the EXACT same things happened last week ...our defensive left got owned both weeks

What is Madge going to claim ...it was written in Invisible Ink

Don't worry ...I'll tell him myself when he comes up to Calliope / Gladstone next week

 

[Geo]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

No he concedes that being professional experienced rugby league players they sucked their attitude sucked and playing only two games together had absolutely nothing to do with that..but I guess that is beyond your comprehension..

Maybe he needs to concede that the writing was on the wall last weekend as well ...the EXACT same things happened last week ...our defensive left got owned both weeks

What is Madge going to claim ...it was written in Invisible Ink

Don't worry ...I'll tell him myself when he comes up to Calliope / Gladstone next week

The week before with a different attitude that was overcome and they won so the exact same thing didn't happen...this week with 20 to go only 2 points behind playing like garbage they folded..attitude...you might get that one day..wouldn't hold my breath ..

 

[happy_tiger]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

No he concedes that being professional experienced rugby league players they sucked their attitude sucked and playing only two games together had absolutely nothing to do with that..but I guess that is beyond your comprehension..

Maybe he needs to concede that the writing was on the wall last weekend as well ...the EXACT same things happened last week ...our defensive left got owned both weeks

What is Madge going to claim ...it was written in Invisible Ink

Don't worry ...I'll tell him myself when he comes up to Calliope / Gladstone next week

The week before with a different attitude that was overcome and they won so the exact same thing didn't happen...this week with 20 to go only 2 points behind playing like garbage they folded..attitude...you might get that one day..wouldn't hold my breath ..

It wasn't overcome ...the Dragons were too useless to grab their chances

As I said ...I will slap some sense into Madge next week ...the new face you will see in the box :8ball:

 

[happy_tiger]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

No he concedes that being professional experienced rugby league players they sucked their attitude sucked and playing only two games together had absolutely nothing to do with that..but I guess that is beyond your comprehension..

Maybe he needs to concede that the writing was on the wall last weekend as well ...the EXACT same things happened last week ...our defensive left got owned both weeks

What is Madge going to claim ...it was written in Invisible Ink

Don't worry ...I'll tell him myself when he comes up to Calliope / Gladstone next week

The week before with a different attitude that was overcome and they won so the exact same thing didn't happen...this week with 20 to go only 2 points behind playing like garbage they folded..attitude...you might get that one day..wouldn't hold my breath ..

I get attitude .....just because attitude brushes you aside like a flimsy WT's tackle attempt

 

[Geo]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

No he concedes that being professional experienced rugby league players they sucked their attitude sucked and playing only two games together had absolutely nothing to do with that..but I guess that is beyond your comprehension..

Maybe he needs to concede that the writing was on the wall last weekend as well ...the EXACT same things happened last week ...our defensive left got owned both weeks

What is Madge going to claim ...it was written in Invisible Ink

Don't worry ...I'll tell him myself when he comes up to Calliope / Gladstone next week

The week before with a different attitude that was overcome and they won so the exact same thing didn't happen...this week with 20 to go only 2 points behind playing like garbage they folded..attitude...you might get that one day..wouldn't hold my breath ..

I get attitude .....just because attitude brushes you aside like a flimsy WT's tackle attempt

Might want to start with your Fantasy Team 1st..

There were no changes Maguire could have made between the weeks regarding your original point of trials..there were something like 700 games NRL experience on that edge regardless of whether they had played 1 2 or 600 games together..

 

[happy_tiger]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

No he concedes that being professional experienced rugby league players they sucked their attitude sucked and playing only two games together had absolutely nothing to do with that..but I guess that is beyond your comprehension..

Maybe he needs to concede that the writing was on the wall last weekend as well ...the EXACT same things happened last week ...our defensive left got owned both weeks

What is Madge going to claim ...it was written in Invisible Ink

Don't worry ...I'll tell him myself when he comes up to Calliope / Gladstone next week

The week before with a different attitude that was overcome and they won so the exact same thing didn't happen...this week with 20 to go only 2 points behind playing like garbage they folded..attitude...you might get that one day..wouldn't hold my breath ..

I get attitude .....just because attitude brushes you aside like a flimsy WT's tackle attempt

Might want to start with your Fantasy Team 1st..

There were no changes Maguire could have made between the weeks regarding your original point of trials..there were something like 700 games NRL experience on that edge regardless of whether they had played 1 2 or 600 games together..

Well maybe don't put a slow 36 year old and a bloke who is continually getting stuck at 2nd marker who isn't real quick laterally together

The next issue with all of that is the fullback ..if he is good defensively he should be seeing the target of the oppositions attack and calling players over

Thommo may have the heart of Phar Lap ...but we concede a lot of points when he is fullback ..and some of it is because of his own positional problems but also not being able to read a game

I said last week teams will have spotted that

 

[cktiger]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

No he concedes that being professional experienced rugby league players they sucked their attitude sucked and playing only two games together had absolutely nothing to do with that..but I guess that is beyond your comprehension..

Maybe he needs to concede that the writing was on the wall last weekend as well ...the EXACT same things happened last week ...our defensive left got owned both weeks

What is Madge going to claim ...it was written in Invisible Ink

Don't worry ...I'll tell him myself when he comes up to Calliope / Gladstone next week

The week before with a different attitude that was overcome and they won so the exact same thing didn't happen...this week with 20 to go only 2 points behind playing like garbage they folded..attitude...you might get that one day..wouldn't hold my breath ..

I get attitude .....just because attitude brushes you aside like a flimsy WT's tackle attempt

Might want to start with your Fantasy Team 1st..

There were no changes Maguire could have made between the weeks regarding your original point of trials..there were something like 700 games NRL experience on that edge regardless of whether they had played 1 2 or 600 games together..

Well maybe don't put a slow 36 year old and a bloke who is continually getting stuck at 2nd marker who isn't real quick laterally together

The next issue with all of that is the fullback ..if he is good defensively **he should be seeing the target of the oppositions attack and calling players over**

Thommo may have the heart of Phar Lap ...but we concede a lot of points when he is fullback ..and some of it is because of his own positional problems but also not being able to read a game

I said last week teams will have spotted that

Exactly why I would have Mbye at the back.

 

[happy_tiger]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

No he concedes that being professional experienced rugby league players they sucked their attitude sucked and playing only two games together had absolutely nothing to do with that..but I guess that is beyond your comprehension..

Maybe he needs to concede that the writing was on the wall last weekend as well ...the EXACT same things happened last week ...our defensive left got owned both weeks

What is Madge going to claim ...it was written in Invisible Ink

Don't worry ...I'll tell him myself when he comes up to Calliope / Gladstone next week

The week before with a different attitude that was overcome and they won so the exact same thing didn't happen...this week with 20 to go only 2 points behind playing like garbage they folded..attitude...you might get that one day..wouldn't hold my breath ..

I get attitude .....just because attitude brushes you aside like a flimsy WT's tackle attempt

Might want to start with your Fantasy Team 1st..

There were no changes Maguire could have made between the weeks regarding your original point of trials..there were something like 700 games NRL experience on that edge regardless of whether they had played 1 2 or 600 games together..

Well maybe don't put a slow 36 year old and a bloke who is continually getting stuck at 2nd marker who isn't real quick laterally together

The next issue with all of that is the fullback ..if he is good defensively **he should be seeing the target of the oppositions attack and calling players over**

Thommo may have the heart of Phar Lap ...but we concede a lot of points when he is fullback ..and some of it is because of his own positional problems but also not being able to read a game

I said last week teams will have spotted that

Exactly why I would have Mbye at the back.

Nah Douehi at 1 ...Moses at 4...actually wouldn't mind switching BJ to the right side and Moses defending outside Benji ....will help counter the lack of speed defensively ....Mbye makes good percentage decisions when to come out of the line and not to

 

[bythebeardofzeus]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So-called professionals

Yep I don't think it'd get any more embarrassing for a footballer than having your coach say this about you.

 

[happy_tiger]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So-called professionals

Yep I don't think it'd get any more embarrassing for a footballer than having your coach say this about you.

Funny ...you don't see Bellamy having these issues ...WT coaches it is an issue almost by the month

 

[Fish88]

Our right side defence is horrid and was always going to be a worry. Benji has always needed protection and LL can’t provide that. Combine that with BJ and nofo and it spells disaster. Every team will run over through us that side of the field

 

[851]

But @geo ...you told me the side would be prepared ....we didn't need trial games to get underprepared players ready

They looked liked they were elbow bumping in the in goal area ....hadn't meet before ....

Maguire conceded the right edge of Benji Marshall and new recruits Joey and Luciano Leilua needed work and wasn’t about to make excuses just because it was only their second game together.

“The boys have just got to find their shoulders,” Maguire said.

"That comes back to attitude and understanding what your role is. You can talk about our right edge or middles, teams will pick apart individuals if you’re not doing those sorts of things.

"We didn’t want to turn up and put our shoulders into tackles and teams feel that and they’ll find you.

"They turned up last week with a different attitude.

“It’s about turning up week in and week out, that’s what makes our competition.”

So even Madge concedes that you and he were wrong

No he concedes that being professional experienced rugby league players they sucked their attitude sucked and playing only two games together had absolutely nothing to do with that..but I guess that is beyond your comprehension..

Maybe he needs to concede that the writing was on the wall last weekend as well ...the EXACT same things happened last week ...our defensive left got owned both weeks

What is Madge going to claim ...it was written in Invisible Ink

Don't worry ...I'll tell him myself when he comes up to Calliope / Gladstone next week

The week before with a different attitude that was overcome and they won so the exact same thing didn't happen...this week with 20 to go only 2 points behind playing like garbage they folded..attitude...you might get that one day..wouldn't hold my breath ..

I get attitude .....just because attitude brushes you aside like a flimsy WT's tackle attempt

Might want to start with your Fantasy Team 1st..

There were no changes Maguire could have made between the weeks regarding your original point of trials..there were something like 700 games NRL experience on that edge regardless of whether they had played 1 2 or 600 games together..

Well maybe don't put a slow 36 year old and a bloke who is continually getting stuck at 2nd marker who isn't real quick laterally together

The next issue with all of that is the fullback ..if he is good defensively he should be seeing the target of the oppositions attack and calling players over

Thommo may have the heart of Phar Lap ...but we concede a lot of points when he is fullback ..and some of it is because of his own positional problems but also not being able to read a game

I said last week teams will have spotted that

Could not agree more Happy if saints were not so useless they would have converted one of the many tries they bombed and beat us last week.
Benji and Corey are untouchable around here, but you are spot on about them 2 having a large hand in our defensive stats, Corey is not a fullback, and probably with the new rule too small for the wing.
Benji is 35 and still making rookie errors in attack, and missing a stack of tackles in defence, I would be inclined to move both from the team and start looking at the future.

 

[Tigerboy]

Our right side defence is horrid and was always going to be a worry. Benji has always needed protection and LL can’t provide that. Combine that with BJ and nofo and it spells disaster. Every team will run over through us that side of the field

Just food for thought, say we try this;

1. AD

2. Nof - last chance
3. Mbye/Jennings shore up defence and change the LHS combo of Leiluma (not working)

4. Joey - the fact he really couldn’t be held accountable after we let Momi go could be costly... going off what I’m seeing and hearing.
5. Thommo should be good with BJ

ALSO, switch LL and Garner/Lawrence
No point having Rowdy on bench.