**Live game thread**

[Eddie]

Tonight was always going to get ugly….one team season was dead and the other side still had life.

So you are wasting your time getting emotional about getting a touch up tonight. For me it’s been a very good year but I am worried how we can make the next step without being able to attract the quality needed

Very well said.

 

[TIGER]

Why is everyone saying that we need hard running forwards for next year?

We got Packerlino, we're fine.

I really think we need another million dollar half

 

[Russell]

Actually what is needed is a 1/2 back that actually has a go with the ball in hand ,Brooks is a pretender which fits in with the other 50% of players in the team.

Joey would have struggled with that possession and go forward tonight.

Brooks should move on. We're doing nothing for that kid. He could become a really good half at a real club.

No he couldn't. Mainly because he's a crap halfback. I don't know what position he would be good at, but it ain't halfback.

I'm hoping you are just emotional Col, and lashing out at a little guy that gave his all playing behind a beaten pack with some of the biggest forwards in the League running at him all night was just disappointment.

I would hate to think that you are just a really bad judge.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Our bench will be carrying a hooker. We should use that interchange for a forward.
Need a 80 min hooker that isn't Robbie Farah.

Actually what is needed is a 1/2 back that actually has a go with the ball in hand ,Brooks is a pretender which fits in with the other 50% of players in the team.

Joey would have struggled with that possession and go forward tonight.

Brooks should move on. We're doing nothing for that kid. He could become a really good half at a real club.

I said this exact thing to my son tonight. Sadly he is wasting his career with us. Imagine him behind the souths pack

 

[WT2K]

https://twitter.com/ANZStadium/status/1035144124398153728?s=19

 

[gallagher]

Actually what is needed is a 1/2 back that actually has a go with the ball in hand ,Brooks is a pretender which fits in with the other 50% of players in the team.

Joey would have struggled with that possession and go forward tonight.

Brooks should move on. We're doing nothing for that kid. He could become a really good half at a real club.

I said this exact thing to my son tonight. Sadly he is wasting his career with us. Imagine him behind the souths pack

Him and Lawrence have been the shining light this year. They deserve better than the mob running this club.

 

[magpiecol]

Joey would have struggled with that possession and go forward tonight.

Brooks should move on. We're doing nothing for that kid. He could become a really good half at a real club.

No he couldn't. Mainly because he's a crap halfback. I don't know what position he would be good at, but it ain't halfback.

I'm hoping you are just emotional Col, and lashing out at a little guy that gave his all playing behind a beaten pack with some of the biggest forwards in the League running at him all night was just disappointment.

I would hate to think that you are just a really bad judge.

I'm not emotional in the least. I never questioned his courage or his effort tonight.

I'm saying that he is not and never will be a halfback that can guide a team around the paddock.

He is definitely a first grade footballer, just not a half.

 

[Eddie]

Joey would have struggled with that possession and go forward tonight.

Brooks should move on. We're doing nothing for that kid. He could become a really good half at a real club.

I said this exact thing to my son tonight. Sadly he is wasting his career with us. Imagine him behind the souths pack

Him and Lawrence have been the shining light this year. They deserve better than the mob running this club.

They have been good this year. As has Benji and many of our squad players.

Brooks and Lawrence they have been around like Benji and Farah (players who have taken us to 3 finals in 15 years)

Brooks is 0 for 6 as our chief halfback. Duck egg.

Lawrence joined in 2006\. The year after we won the competition. So he is what 2 from 13 or something?!

Im just saying people can draw up any narrative they want.

IF Brooks and Lawrence deserves better then the "mob running our club "why dont others have the same placed upon them that have been around for yonks ?

 

[gallagher]

Brooks should move on. We're doing nothing for that kid. He could become a really good half at a real club.

I said this exact thing to my son tonight. Sadly he is wasting his career with us. Imagine him behind the souths pack

Him and Lawrence have been the shining light this year. They deserve better than the mob running this club.

They have been good this year. As has Benji and many of our squad players.

Brooks and Lawrence they have been around like Benji and Farah (players who have taken us to 3 finals in 15 years)

Brooks is 0 for 6 as our chief halfback. Duck egg.

Lawrence joined in 2006\. The year after we won the competition. So he is what 2 from 13 or something?!

Im just saying people can draw up any narrative they want.

IF Brooks and Lawrence deserves better then the "mob running our club "why dont others have the same placed upon them that have been around for yonks ?

Fair post Eddie. My point of difference is that Farah/Marshall had plenty of years with a pack that competed well enough for them to produce results that a spine player should deliver. They didn't.
Brooks hasn't been afforded that luxury. Lawrence? Well a second rower can only do his job.

 

[Eddie]

I said this exact thing to my son tonight. Sadly he is wasting his career with us. Imagine him behind the souths pack

Him and Lawrence have been the shining light this year. They deserve better than the mob running this club.

They have been good this year. As has Benji and many of our squad players.

Brooks and Lawrence they have been around like Benji and Farah (players who have taken us to 3 finals in 15 years)

Brooks is 0 for 6 as our chief halfback. Duck egg.

Lawrence joined in 2006\. The year after we won the competition. So he is what 2 from 13 or something?!

Im just saying people can draw up any narrative they want.

IF Brooks and Lawrence deserves better then the "mob running our club "why dont others have the same placed upon them that have been around for yonks ?

Fair post Eddie. My point of difference is that Farah/Marshall had plenty of years with a pack that competed well enough for them to produce results that a spine player should deliver. They didn't.
Brooks hasn't been afforded that luxury. Lawrence? Well a second rower can only do his job.

I disagree

In the year we had good forwards packs (Gareth Ellis) we made the Top 4 in 2010 and 2011.

You are dreaming if you think we had good forward packs under Sheens ? Do you really think that ?

You must not remember guys like Danny Galea playing in the front row under Sheens. Guys like Skando coming out of retirement twice ?!

We were soft as butter up the middle in several seasons. Even the year we won the comp our pack was considered by many to be decent but nothing to be feared.

Our pack has competed well enough this year. They did in 2014 too. Name me better forwards then Woods and Tapua that we have had ? This year we have 2 decent but not special props.

 

[happy_tiger]

Just got home from wrok heard the HT score

Quoting Maxwell Smart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPwrodxghrw

 

[Kerry_Cogger]

Why is everyone saying that we need hard running forwards for next year?

We got Packerlino, we're fine.

I really think we need another million dollar half

If the forwards aren't going forward and getting dominated we could get a 5 million dollar half and it wouldn't do squat.

 

[gallagher]

Him and Lawrence have been the shining light this year. They deserve better than the mob running this club.

They have been good this year. As has Benji and many of our squad players.

Brooks and Lawrence they have been around like Benji and Farah (players who have taken us to 3 finals in 15 years)

Brooks is 0 for 6 as our chief halfback. Duck egg.

Lawrence joined in 2006\. The year after we won the competition. So he is what 2 from 13 or something?!

Im just saying people can draw up any narrative they want.

IF Brooks and Lawrence deserves better then the "mob running our club "why dont others have the same placed upon them that have been around for yonks ?

Fair post Eddie. My point of difference is that Farah/Marshall had plenty of years with a pack that competed well enough for them to produce results that a spine player should deliver. They didn't.
Brooks hasn't been afforded that luxury. Lawrence? Well a second rower can only do his job.

I disagree

In the year we had good forwards packs (Gareth Ellis) we made the Top 4 in 2010 and 2011.

You are dreaming if you think we had good forward packs under Sheens ? Do you really think that ?

You must not remember guys like Danny Galea playing in the front row under Sheens. Guys like Skando coming out of retirement twice ?!

We were soft as butter up the middle in several seasons. Even the year we won the comp our pack was considered by many to be decent but nothing to be feared.

Our pack has competed well enough this year. They did in 2014 too. Name me better forwards then Woods and Tapua that we have had ? This year we have 2 decent but not special props.

Ellis was here 2009 - 2012\. Good packs all four years for 2 finals appearances that the two glory boys failed miserably in the big games. The 06 team that won the comp in 05 didn't even make the top 8.
They had good players around them.
Massive failures

 

[Eddie]

They have been good this year. As has Benji and many of our squad players.

Brooks and Lawrence they have been around like Benji and Farah (players who have taken us to 3 finals in 15 years)

Brooks is 0 for 6 as our chief halfback. Duck egg.

Lawrence joined in 2006\. The year after we won the competition. So he is what 2 from 13 or something?!

Im just saying people can draw up any narrative they want.

IF Brooks and Lawrence deserves better then the "mob running our club "why dont others have the same placed upon them that have been around for yonks ?

Fair post Eddie. My point of difference is that Farah/Marshall had plenty of years with a pack that competed well enough for them to produce results that a spine player should deliver. They didn't.
Brooks hasn't been afforded that luxury. Lawrence? Well a second rower can only do his job.

I disagree

In the year we had good forwards packs (Gareth Ellis) we made the Top 4 in 2010 and 2011.

You are dreaming if you think we had good forward packs under Sheens ? Do you really think that ?

You must not remember guys like Danny Galea playing in the front row under Sheens. Guys like Skando coming out of retirement twice ?!

We were soft as butter up the middle in several seasons. Even the year we won the comp our pack was considered by many to be decent but nothing to be feared.

Our pack has competed well enough this year. They did in 2014 too. Name me better forwards then Woods and Tapua that we have had ? This year we have 2 decent but not special props.

Ellis was here 2009 - 2012\. Good packs all four years for 2 finals appearances that the two glory boys failed miserably in the big games. The 06 team that won the comp in 05 didn't even make the top 8.
They had good players around them.
Massive failures

Fair enough I cant argue they didn't under achieve in certain years.

However you then go onto lavish praise on Brooks?

A key position player who has never actually made it too a big game. Like Any sort of semi Final.

In 6 years…..

We had good players like Woods, Tapua, Tedesco, Addo Carr etc etc when brooks was around too.

We spend big money on our pack this season.

Im not arguing against Farah and Marshall so much but slightly confused by the whole Marshall and Farah are massive failures but Brooks is outstanding kind of line.

Thats all.

 

[Geo]

Game should have ended on page 7

 

[gallagher]

Fair post Eddie. My point of difference is that Farah/Marshall had plenty of years with a pack that competed well enough for them to produce results that a spine player should deliver. They didn't.
Brooks hasn't been afforded that luxury. Lawrence? Well a second rower can only do his job.

I disagree

In the year we had good forwards packs (Gareth Ellis) we made the Top 4 in 2010 and 2011.

You are dreaming if you think we had good forward packs under Sheens ? Do you really think that ?

You must not remember guys like Danny Galea playing in the front row under Sheens. Guys like Skando coming out of retirement twice ?!

We were soft as butter up the middle in several seasons. Even the year we won the comp our pack was considered by many to be decent but nothing to be feared.

Our pack has competed well enough this year. They did in 2014 too. Name me better forwards then Woods and Tapua that we have had ? This year we have 2 decent but not special props.

Ellis was here 2009 - 2012\. Good packs all four years for 2 finals appearances that the two glory boys failed miserably in the big games. The 06 team that won the comp in 05 didn't even make the top 8.
They had good players around them.
Massive failures

Fair enough I cant argue they didn't under achieve in certain years.

However you then go onto lavish praise on Brooks?

A key position player who has never actually made it too a big game. Like Any sort of semi Final.

In 6 years…..

We had good players like Woods, Tapua, Tedesco, Addo Carr etc etc when brooks was around too.

We spend big money on our pack this season.

Im not arguing against Farah and Marshall so much but slightly confused by the whole Marshall and Farah are massive failures but Brooks is outstanding kind of line.

Thats all.

I just said he deserves better than what the club is surrounding him with. We are killing his career.
I don't think I've lavished praise on him but yes, I think he deserves better than what we're giving him.

 

[upthetigers]

Why is everyone saying that we need hard running forwards for next year?

We got Packerlino, we're fine.

I really think we need another million dollar half

Because we need them a lot more then we need Nathan Cleary at the club.

 

[Eddie]

I disagree

In the year we had good forwards packs (Gareth Ellis) we made the Top 4 in 2010 and 2011.

You are dreaming if you think we had good forward packs under Sheens ? Do you really think that ?

You must not remember guys like Danny Galea playing in the front row under Sheens. Guys like Skando coming out of retirement twice ?!

We were soft as butter up the middle in several seasons. Even the year we won the comp our pack was considered by many to be decent but nothing to be feared.

Our pack has competed well enough this year. They did in 2014 too. Name me better forwards then Woods and Tapua that we have had ? This year we have 2 decent but not special props.

Ellis was here 2009 - 2012\. Good packs all four years for 2 finals appearances that the two glory boys failed miserably in the big games. The 06 team that won the comp in 05 didn't even make the top 8.
They had good players around them.
Massive failures

Fair enough I cant argue they didn't under achieve in certain years.

However you then go onto lavish praise on Brooks?

A key position player who has never actually made it too a big game. Like Any sort of semi Final.

In 6 years…..

We had good players like Woods, Tapua, Tedesco, Addo Carr etc etc when brooks was around too.

We spend big money on our pack this season.

Im not arguing against Farah and Marshall so much but slightly confused by the whole Marshall and Farah are massive failures but Brooks is outstanding kind of line.

Thats all.

I just said he deserves better than what the club is surrounding him with. We are killing his career.
I don't think I've lavished praise on him but yes, I think he deserves better than what we're giving him.

I agree in some respects.

However how exactly are we killing his career? What specifically are we doing wrong ?

Is it not recruitment enough marquee talent around him?

Is it losing guys like Addo Carr, Woods and Tedesco at a time where we were building a young and exciting roster?

Is it not having great facilities or coaches over the years?

Maybe to an extent. If so..

However it leads me to the same questions….

Did the club ruin some of Marshall and Farahs careers?

Not holding onto Scott Prince. Not signing enough talent around them for years?

You are fuming that Marshall and Farah are 3 from 15, yet Brooks is 0 from 6 as the halfback.

I just don't think you can have it both ways that is all/

 

[happy_tiger]

Game should have ended on page 7

Things seem positive on Page 8 Geo …....

Have another Cappuccino

 

[gallagher]

Ellis was here 2009 - 2012\. Good packs all four years for 2 finals appearances that the two glory boys failed miserably in the big games. The 06 team that won the comp in 05 didn't even make the top 8.
They had good players around them.
Massive failures

Fair enough I cant argue they didn't under achieve in certain years.

However you then go onto lavish praise on Brooks?

A key position player who has never actually made it too a big game. Like Any sort of semi Final.

In 6 years…..

We had good players like Woods, Tapua, Tedesco, Addo Carr etc etc when brooks was around too.

We spend big money on our pack this season.

Im not arguing against Farah and Marshall so much but slightly confused by the whole Marshall and Farah are massive failures but Brooks is outstanding kind of line.

Thats all.

I just said he deserves better than what the club is surrounding him with. We are killing his career.
I don't think I've lavished praise on him but yes, I think he deserves better than what we're giving him.

I agree in some respects.

However how exactly are we killing his career? What specifically are we doing wrong ?

Is it not recruitment enough marquee talent around him?

Is it losing guys like Addo Carr, Woods and Tedesco at a time where we were building a young and exciting roster?

Is it not having great facilities or coaches over the years?

Maybe to an extent. If so..

However it leads me to the same questions….

Did the club ruin some of Marshall and Farahs careers?

Not holding onto Scott Prince. Not signing enough talent around them for years?

You are fuming that Marshall and Farah are 3 from 15, yet Brooks is 0 from 6 as the halfback.

I just don't think you can have it both ways that is all/

Yes, for a few years we did let them down with poor recruitment. But when we got it right they let us down.
We havnt got it right for Brooks yet.