Looks like heino will be going too

WESTS Tigers have devised a plan to revamp their pack by recruiting and developing size, but the issue has become: at what cost will next year's vision affect this season's results?

Workaholic back-rower Chris Heighington, the heart and soul of the Tigers' pack for the past five seasons, has been forced to begin the search for an alternative club.

The reason is one of the harsh realities of professional football. Coach Tim Sheens has told the 168-game Tigers forward he will more than likely be playing from the bench next season.

Four-time premiership winner Sheens has decided the club is in need of a makeover, targeting size and strength as the key ingredients for a forward pack considered to have a soft underbelly by its NRL rivals.

It's a brutal call on a one-club servant who won a premiership with the Tigers in 2005 and is as much the nucleus of the team as Benji Marshall or Robbie Farah.

The biggest issue facing the Tigers this season is going to be keeping the club together when everyone knows next season it is being torn apart.

Gone are the 2005 premiership winner Bryce Gibbs, boom rookie Andrew Fifita and most likely Heighington, while Liam Fulton was another one-club player also told he could go.

Even Sheens admits it's been a distraction and it's going to take a professional organisation to overcome it.

It was earlier this year that Sheens admitted the issue of long-serving players being forced out has had an impact on the club. Since then, the Tigers coach has spoken to all players involved.

One thing is certain, however, Heighington is an NRL warrior.

And if he is forced to switch clubs, his new home will be the richer for his presence.

"As far as the distraction's concerned, yeah, there's some distraction. You're lying if you say there's not," Sheens said.

"But at the end of the day Chris asked me an honest question so I gave him an honest answer.

"He's in the mix - but we're looking to be bigger and stronger. Recruitment and some of the kids coming through, we're looking at those things. We've been bullied by bigger, stronger sides at times."
 
Ok so we're getting Blair but who else???

At this rate we're losing Gibbs, payten, fifita and heighington. Are we just upgrading BMM, groat, begovich etc?? Surely we can't expect them all to just jump straight into first grade all year
 
Source: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/beefed-up-tigers-to-bench-nrl-warrior/story-e6frfgbo-1226081989648
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I hope they are doing the right thing for the future. But they are essentially throwing this year away with all the uncertainty for players. A shame for both players and fans who had such high hopes for 2011\. We had the depth and talent this year to win it all. But I guess 2011 isn't over yet.
 
@fergiefurr said:
Ok so we're getting Blair but who else???

At this rate we're losing Gibbs, payten, fifita and heighington. Are we just upgrading BMM, groat, begovich etc?? Surely we can't expect them all to just jump straight into first grade all year

Ridiculous to get rid of heighno.If we get rid of a small forward its fulton who should go first for me.Rhino is the ultimate keeper.
 
"He's in the mix - but we're looking to be bigger and stronger. Recruitment and some of the kids coming through, we're looking at those things. We've been bullied by bigger, stronger sides at times."

Yet you persist week in and week out to play the same small defensive liabilities in your team.
Let me tell you something Mr. 48%, the one's being asked to leave are not the ones costing you matches. Gibbs, Heighington and Fifita are the same weight and size of their opposing numbers.
And what?? You've only JUST figured out that our team gets bullied by bigger and stronger sides?? Funny that…. Everyone on here pretty much knew that already and ever since 2006 when your mobile pack was getting belted from pillar to post after jagging the title.

You start a cleanout by removing defensive liabilities out of your squad not because a player is 2cms shorter than his opposition.
But if you didn't play favourites every week and dropped under-performing players when it needs doing, you wouldn't need to be giving your so-called "honest answers".

I would even doubt very much the Dragons pack from last year is much bigger or stronger than the Tigers pack from last year. They won the premiership...
 
Please no.. :frowning: if he went to another club, the membership renewal form could be left blank.
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chris is the heart and the soul of the tigers pack if he goes i will never go to another tigers game again.sheens must go before chis.
 
Help me understand something, our forward pack struggles to dominate other forward packs and the fans blow up about it. Tim is in the process of revamping our forwards so they can compete with the bigger packs. He has his eye on the 2nd best forward in the comp and lets Fifita and Gibbs go. Now Heighno is being talked about being let go as well. The fans are now blowing up. If we dont let Gibbs and Fifita go, then who? Obviously fans have not been happy with our forwards since 2006 so evidently changes have to be made according to the fans. If Blair signed with another club because we kept our forwards that the fans aren't happy with then the fans blow up for not trying to sign Blair.

No wonder Tim doesn't give a rats what the fans think. If I were in his shoes I wouldnt either. He's in a lose/lose situation no matter which way he goes!
 
Bit of a harsh reality. I love this team and I have hope, but it there is no premiership on the horizon. We just don't have what it takes. The 2005 razzle dazzle no longer works. The favourites have been rewarded with resigning, but they are not delivering. Busting their guts out, but not delivering. Start with Benji and Ellis and build from there. I love Rhino, Gibbs. Fulton and the rest, but i don't see them crashing over the line for tries so…? What do we do?
 
@Adman said:
Bit of a harsh reality. I love this team and I have hope, but it there is no premiership on the horizon. We just don't have what it takes. The 2005 razzle dazzle no longer works. The favourites have been rewarded with resigning, but they are not delivering. Busting their guts out, but not delivering. Start with Benji and Ellis and build from there. I love Rhino, Gibbs. Fulton and the rest, but i don't see them crashing over the line for tries so…? What do we do?

I have to agree, it hurts to see players go but at the end of the day it is business and the club is trying to revolutionise the club to head towards a path which will maximise their chances of winning a premiership. The only concern here is hoping that the new direction is the right one and the timing…
 
@Adman said:
Bit of a harsh reality. I love this team and I have hope, but it there is no premiership on the horizon. We just don't have what it takes. The 2005 razzle dazzle no longer works. The favourites have been rewarded with resigning, but they are not delivering. Busting their guts out, but not delivering. Start with Benji and Ellis and build from there. I love Rhino, Gibbs. Fulton and the rest, but i don't see them crashing over the line for tries so…? What do we do?

100% correct!!!! I love those guys too and the bottom dollar is you can't keep players for sentimental reasons. If you want the best players, you have to pay a premium for them and make sacrifices to keep within the cap. People can go on and blame Sheens and Humphreys all they want but at the end of the day they're the bad guys because they're the ones responsible for making the tough decisions. That's the nature of the beast the ARL/NRL has created.
 
There HAS to be more than Blair coming if we are letting Rhino go . If it is going to make the team stronger I'm all for it but if we are letting him go with no replacement ,this is madness
 
@Chris said:
@Adman said:
Bit of a harsh reality. I love this team and I have hope, but it there is no premiership on the horizon. We just don't have what it takes. The 2005 razzle dazzle no longer works. The favourites have been rewarded with resigning, but they are not delivering. Busting their guts out, but not delivering. Start with Benji and Ellis and build from there. I love Rhino, Gibbs. Fulton and the rest, but i don't see them crashing over the line for tries so…? What do we do?

100% correct!!!! I love those guys too and the bottom dollar is you can't keep players for sentimental reasons. If you want the best players, you have to pay a premium for them and make sacrifices to keep within the cap. People can go on and blame Sheens and Humphreys all they want but at the end of the day they're the bad guys because they're the ones responsible for making the tough decisions. That's the nature of the beast the ARL/NRL has created.

I agree wholeheartedly, however perhaps the whole situation could have been managed in a 'better' manner. It kinda irks me that it seems rather abrupt letting all these players know within the space of a month or two that they need to look elsewhere. The obvious consequences are players/fans unhappiness and it no doubt has affected the tigers in 2011\. Simply put there is too much uncertainty and a lack of transparency which could have been managed better.
 
I can see where you're coming from but how else do they handle it? When you let players negotiate it creates an air of uncertainty amongst the rest of the playing group and understandably so. I really cant see how else they could have handled it.
 
:bash :bash :bash :bash :bash :bash :bash

Let three of our biggest guys go and keep Fulton. Nice one.

What's the bet if we get Blair, Sheens will throw him in the front row when he's better suited to the back row.
 
@crouching_tiger said:
"He's in the mix - but we're looking to be bigger and stronger. Recruitment and some of the kids coming through, we're looking at those things. We've been bullied by bigger, stronger sides at times."

Yet you persist week in and week out to play the same small defensive liabilities in your team.
Let me tell you something Mr. 48%, the one's being asked to leave are not the ones costing you matches. Gibbs, Heighington and Fifita are the same weight and size of their opposing numbers.
And what?? You've only JUST figured out that our team gets bullied by bigger and stronger sides?? Funny that…. Everyone on here pretty much knew that already and ever since 2006 when your mobile pack was getting belted from pillar to post after jagging the title.

You start a cleanout by removing defensive liabilities out of your squad not because a player is 2cms shorter than his opposition.
But if you didn't play favourites every week and dropped under-performing players when it needs doing, you wouldn't need to be giving your so-called "honest answers".

I would even doubt very much the Dragons pack from last year is much bigger or stronger than the Tigers pack from last year. They won the premiership...

POST OF THE YEAR THUS FAR :master:
 
@alex said:
:bash :bash :bash :bash :bash :bash :bash

Let three of our biggest guys go and keep Fulton. Nice one.

What's the bet if we get Blair, Sheens will throw him in the front row when he's better suited to the back row.

The three guys you're alluding to, Fifita, a lazy trainer who runs sideways and plays good for 10 minutes every game. Gibbs who requires a needle to play almost every game and is a decent front rower at best. Heighington, is still part of Tim's plans for next year and has been told he doesn't have permission to negotiate elsewhere. Adam Blair is a world class forward who's aggressive style of play is what we're lacking at the moment.
 
Imagine our backrow next year if we don't lose Chris & sign Blair.Ellis & Blair at 2nd row & Heino at lock.then when we replace one of the props around 20 mins,Sheens could bring Dwyer on 2 play 2nd row & move Blair into the front row.Throw in Gallaway & Farah up front & looks like a handy pack 2 me.
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Excellent first post weststigers4life. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever. Look forward to more of your posts.
 
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