Lui goes off at 22-4.

[Rambo2714]

I made the same observation ! Molten only had a few touches at half but he was effective . The warriors were shocked to see hime there .

I think Moltzen to half is an absolute must ! Lui is a good player , but this year not good enough .
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[Demps]

Fafita
Molten

… what teams do some of you even go for?

 

[Long_Distance_Tiger]

Lui's a human turnstile - can't afford to have him in the team. Maybe a couple of games in the Reggies will help him regain the same form he showed late last season.

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

We obviously have defensive problems on that side of the field. Whether it's Lui or Dwyer or both, Coach Sheens needs to make one or two changes as every coach worth his clipboard saw that today.

I do feel Lui needs to be confident with his defence. We have all seen him make some very good hits on big players.

If, however,the problem is he is the mystery player going to the Broncos he should have the nuts to say so and then concentrate on playing for the team that is paying his salary for this year.

Before injury, I really liked Moltzen at 1/2 but since his return he has shown nothing to deserve it. I think Miller or another needs a shot if neither will stand up to be counted.

For me the problem down that side of the field have a lot to do with Dwyer. For a big back rower who can pull off some great hits he misses far too many tackles. It is in my opinion poor defensive reads and positioning by Dwyer that causes a lot of missed tackles.

For mine I would start Fulton instead of Dwyer and put Fulton or Ellis next to Lui in defence.

Still think Lui is the best current half in the club with Miller the best long term half.

For mine Moltzen still cant do enough with the ball at halfback compared to the other two. I don't think Moltzen is good in defence either. Miller for mine will have the best defence but it will take some time at NRL level to get right, not something we have to do this year unless we can't make the 8.

 

[mc1991]

Moltz was definitely playing in the halves when Lui went off..I reckon leave moltz in the 7 I've always preferred him over Lui..before his injury last season he looked like heading for the top then obviously the knee recon..

Lui isn't doing it for me at all this season..just playing too slow too predictable..

And I've had enough of the whole team starting off well..then they stop playing footy for how long, concede points and then have to catch up..I want them to be leading from the first minute to the 80th minute!! A bit of consistency isn't asking a lot as difficult as it may be
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[mc1991]

I should add I think moltz is also starting to find some confidence on the field which is good..he's taking little steps but he'll get there
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[Black_Orange_White]

I don't hate Lui, I defend him in front of everyone, but seriously, he needs to go to State Cup. His defense is pathetic and his offensive game is off now. Put Moltzen at 7, where he has proved he can perform.

 

[Defiant]

I don't mind him missing the odd tackle but his lack of commitment in using his shoulder and more importantly body is mystifying. He is the classic human turnstyle.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

Honestly I must have been watching a different game - Moltzen hardly touched the ball when Lui went off.

Marshall was basically playing halfback.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Correct Hybrid… The dominance Benji displayed when he moved to 7 was magnificant... Sheens would be smiling at the knockers now!!!

 

[happy_tiger]

I am starting to think that even though Lui is the more talented player , Moltzen may be the better choice as he complements Benji and Robbie better . But I won't write Lui off yet . Need to get either Fulton or Ellis defending with Lui inside . Will give him some confidence . Dwyer defence at times is as bad as Lui .

 

[Tigersmurf]

Agreed happy, Dwyer won't come to anything intil he tackles with his shoulder

 

[southerntiger]

The score was 12-4 when Lui went off. But dont let the facts get in the way of criticising a young kid.
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[innsaneink]

**Moltz was definitely playing in the halves when Lui went off.**.I reckon leave moltz in the 7 I've always preferred him over Lui..before his injury last season he looked like heading for the top then obviously the knee recon..

Lui isn't doing it for me at all this season..just playing too slow too predictable..

And I've had enough of the whole team starting off well..then they stop playing footy for how long, concede points and then have to catch up..I want them to be leading from the first minute to the 80th minute!! A bit of consistency isn't asking a lot as difficult as it may be
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Dunno how you can say this, it just did NOT happen.
May as well say we played the game in botswana

Interesting though is Lui was injured at the 22nd min mark, he went off at the 54 min mark with Simona going on….so maybe he was hooked....the 30 odd mins between getting hurt and going off he didnt seem affected too bad by the injury, though it can be hard to tell just watching on TV

 

[magpiecol]

Give the guy a break. He's a young player playing in a key position. Set up a beauitful first try. Still out number one half back by a mile. Miller aint ready, Moltzen has potential, but Lui is the better half.
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If he gets isolated one-on-one by front rowers, or Manu, etc, what do you expect, at least he has a go. Prince wouldn't have missed those tackes too. Not many half backs would make those tackles.
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It's good coaching, or bad on our part, to isolate him one-on-one. Look at soward, or langer. Alfie Langer was one of the best half backs ever, but suspect in defence, food for thought.

What an absolute load of crap.

 

[system]

Fulton played in the halves after Lui went off. Moltzen was unsighted.

I think the biggest thing for our attack was Marshall stepping up and a return of Ellis to the right side in attack.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

But but but Smeg…Moltzen at 7 is the saviour and Lui is the antichrist....

 

[cktiger]

The thread is about Lui playing like a busted - no one else.
Blame it on him being young or because Dwyer is not holding his hand or whatever you like.
He missed heaps of tackles last year and instead of improving it is shown up to be even worse now because every coach has woken up that he is the weak link in defence.
He even managed to hurt his arm when transforming into a human turnstile.
He seemed to get over that but even Sheens couldn't leave him on the field.
Apart from his poor defence he now looks to be really slow- what's the story there?
As soon as he went off the speed of our game increased immeasurably.
He is a massive liability in defence and playing without any confidence - time to shake hands with the reserve grade coach.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Lui was ordinary. Has been for a few weeks. I don't know what's happened to him, but he is becoming a bigger defensive liability every week, maybe that's because teams tend to be sending more traffic his way.
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[batboy]

Im no Maths wizz… BUT willows stats from last week read:
Lui 16 tackles 10 Missed
Moltzen 7 tackles 3 Missed
To me the percentages look pretty similar, The only difference being the nature of the traffic.
Put Moltzen in the middle with Big forwards running at him all day and see what happens!!!
You people are kidding yourselves!!