Luke Brooks' Running game

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Fair dinkum @jirskyr: you're cutting a pretty short straw with your "position on ladder" is a statistic.
Statistics can be used to prove or disprove a point, they can be used in all sorts of ways. "position on ladder" is a fact and cannot be used for any other purpose than what it is. Therefore @fibrodreaming is 100% correct.
Have a great day jirskyr :relaxed:
 
@MAGPIES1963 said in [Luke Brooks' Running game](/post/1054311) said:
@jirskyr said:
Statistics can be used to prove or disprove a point, they can be used in all sorts of ways. "position on ladder" is a fact and cannot be used for any other purpose than what it is. Therefore @fibrodreaming is 100% correct.
Have a great day jirskyr :relaxed:

Not even close mate, a statistic is:
* a characteristic of a sample. Generally, a statistic is used to estimate the value of a population (Stat Trek)
* any quantity computed from values in a sample, often the mean. Technically speaking, a statistic can be calculated by applying any mathematical function to the values found in a sample of data. (Wikipedia)
* a fact or piece of data obtained from a study of a large quantity of numerical data (Oxford dictionary)
* a quantity (such as the mean of a sample) that is computed from a sample (Merriam Webster)

The position on the premiership table is built upon:
* number of wins
* number of draws
* number of byes
* points for
* points against

That is 5 parameters which are combined to ascertain your "total premiership points" and corresponding position on the ladder. By whatever definition of "statistic" you choose to pick, table position is a value computed from several data samples, which provides an analytical characteristic of those samples.

So yeah, statistics can be used to prove or disprove points. Points such as "Tigers are ahead of Warriors on the current NRL table". Position on ladder is a fact, but all statistics are facts in and of themselves - the extent to which you can develop a further argument is where opinion and interpretation come into play.

Hence back to hobbo's post, where he submitted that Luke Brooks has a weak short kicking game, supported by evidence of "table position".

Also I didn't reply to fibro, I replied to hobbo. So yeah, I believe @fibrodreaming is 100% correct too.
 
My head hurts..

Go Brooksey

BYW i just looked at the 1st half to see the 10 kicks that went down the throat of the opposition.I don't think it sucked TBH..

1st kick by Brooks caught by SKD 3m out stopped on 10m line
2nd kick by Marshall caught by Pongo on 20m line tackled on the 30m
3rd kick by Brooks caught by SKD on 5m line who passed to Pongo tackled on 20m line
4th kick Brooks spilt by Pongo TRY Jennings
5th kick Brooks caught by Best 10m out tackled on 20m
6th kick cross field by Brooks caught by Garner who threw it out the back cleaned up by Lino..they then made an error and Brooks puts Garner in to score
7th kick Brooks caught by SKD 3m out stopped 8m out..
8th Kick by Brooks caught by SKD 1m out stopped 6m out
9th kick was by Marsters ..Pongo got out of the in goal
10th kick by Marshall to the in goal Pongo trapped by a good chase by Marshall and Reynolds..

4 of Brooks kicks were from our side of half way landing within 10m of the Knights line..
 
@Geo Brooks kicking against the Cows at LO was similar to this. The Cows had no energy to attack at our end after trying to get out of their own half.
Against the Knight it was pin point again.
Our rookie front row did very well against Klemmer and Co. Benji out of DH gave Brooks the space he needed so the kicks weren’t rushed.
 
@bigsiro said in [Luke Brooks' Running game](/post/1054212) said:
Still think his kicking game sucked - first ten kicks were straight down the throat of the fullback/winger. I get the tactic of keeping them down there, but he does it too often IMO. When he started to change tactic that’s when he became the effective 7; less predictable, more dangerous. Wish he’d just chill with those long pressure-relieving bombs to no-one.

But he ran the ball well. Bloody well. He picked that lane with Garner and abused the defense. Had a very good second half.
One of our best on the night no doubt.


I don’t think it’s fair to single Brooks out for hitting the fullback on the full, it happens to all kickers when outside of the 30.

Outside of the 30 with both wingers and fullbacks retreated and waiting for it the kickers primary objective is distance and with that comes height in the kick. As soon as you get height in the kick it’s very easy for the back three to get across and under the ball.
 
@Geo said in [Luke Brooks' Running game](/post/1054339) said:
My head hurts..

Go Brooksey

BYW i just looked at the 1st half to see the 10 kicks that went down the throat of the opposition.I don't think it sucked TBH..

1st kick by Brooks caught by SKD 3m out stopped on 10m line
2nd kick by Marshall caught by Pongo on 20m line tackled on the 30m
3rd kick by Brooks caught by SKD on 5m line who passed to Pongo tackled on 20m line
4th kick Brooks spilt by Pongo TRY Jennings
5th kick Brooks caught by Best 10m out tackled on 20m
6th kick cross field by Brooks caught by Garner who threw it out the back cleaned up by Lino..they then made an error and Brooks puts Garner in to score
7th kick Brooks caught by SKD 3m out stopped 8m out..
8th Kick by Brooks caught by SKD 1m out stopped 6m out
9th kick was by Marsters ..Pongo got out of the in goal
10th kick by Marshall to the in goal Pongo trapped by a good chase by Marshall and Reynolds..

4 of Brooks kicks were from our side of half way landing within 10m of the Knights line..


You should take up drinking ...
Give you something to do 😂
 
@Geo said in [Luke Brooks' Running game](/post/1054339) said:
My head hurts..

Go Brooksey

BYW i just looked at the 1st half to see the 10 kicks that went down the throat of the opposition.I don't think it sucked TBH..

1st kick by Brooks caught by SKD 3m out stopped on 10m line
2nd kick by Marshall caught by Pongo on 20m line tackled on the 30m
3rd kick by Brooks caught by SKD on 5m line who passed to Pongo tackled on 20m line
4th kick Brooks spilt by Pongo TRY Jennings
5th kick Brooks caught by Best 10m out tackled on 20m
6th kick cross field by Brooks caught by Garner who threw it out the back cleaned up by Lino..they then made an error and Brooks puts Garner in to score
7th kick Brooks caught by SKD 3m out stopped 8m out..
8th Kick by Brooks caught by SKD 1m out stopped 6m out
9th kick was by Marsters ..Pongo got out of the in goal
10th kick by Marshall to the in goal Pongo trapped by a good chase by Marshall and Reynolds..

4 of Brooks kicks were from our side of half way landing within 10m of the Knights line..

My head hurts as well ...BYW

Bring your own Weirdo ??
 
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks' Running game](/post/1054364) said:
@Geo said in [Luke Brooks' Running game](/post/1054339) said:
My head hurts..

Go Brooksey

BYW i just looked at the 1st half to see the 10 kicks that went down the throat of the opposition.I don't think it sucked TBH..

1st kick by Brooks caught by SKD 3m out stopped on 10m line
2nd kick by Marshall caught by Pongo on 20m line tackled on the 30m
3rd kick by Brooks caught by SKD on 5m line who passed to Pongo tackled on 20m line
4th kick Brooks spilt by Pongo TRY Jennings
5th kick Brooks caught by Best 10m out tackled on 20m
6th kick cross field by Brooks caught by Garner who threw it out the back cleaned up by Lino..they then made an error and Brooks puts Garner in to score
7th kick Brooks caught by SKD 3m out stopped 8m out..
8th Kick by Brooks caught by SKD 1m out stopped 6m out
9th kick was by Marsters ..Pongo got out of the in goal
10th kick by Marshall to the in goal Pongo trapped by a good chase by Marshall and Reynolds..

4 of Brooks kicks were from our side of half way landing within 10m of the Knights line..


You should take up drinking ...
Give you something to do ?

Or not ......enough kangaroos missing from the top paddock already
 
@beachtiger agree. It doesn’t matter if they get it on the full. It’s the height/ time in the air and position on the field that matter more.
If a fullback or wing gets it a couple meters out from their try line and is surround by the defence it’s a very good kick.
If they get in the in-goal on the full it’s a bad kick.
If they get a flat kick straight to them on the bounce and can run 30 metres up field it’s a bad kick.
 
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