Luke Brooks

[jadtiger]

You are guessing that it is a backloaded contract that the club has agreed to.Not a good idea imho

No I’m not guessing about the back loading , just going on what it said in the report that I read when it was announced, if it is true then we have learnt bugger all.

What did the reporter say..?

“it was 0n a backended contract”

I found the article.It was written in the telegraph so as far as i am concerned it would be fiction.

 

[softlaw]

Noting that the nrl have said they aren't registering backloaded contracts anymore…

 

[Seantice]

Noting that the nrl have said they aren't registering backloaded contracts anymore…

Back loading Brooks makes no sense at all. We have money in the cap. The only reason you back load is because your salary cap is nearly used up.

This is only a guess but I think he'd be on 900k.

750k from the cap and 150k TPA.. That makes sense and still gives us money to play with .

 

[Balmainian]

Here's how Luke compared from season 2017 to 2018.
https://twitter.com/NBWT__/status/1036592034813861888?s=19

They are great stats.

Shows he is moving in the right direction. His control of a game and big match moments still need some work but he sure improved under a better pack and the coach asking more of him.

How do you measure "control" or "game management". Can you use stats on elements of his play or is that just someone's opinion?

Its a good question. Im not really sure but for me its measured by feeling comfortable watching a game and seeing a level of control and composure.

Agree with you patriot!
Bang on, the best example was Cronk in the grandfinal.

 

[hammertime]

Noting that the nrl have said they aren't registering backloaded contracts anymore…

Back loading Brooks makes no sense at all. We have money in the cap. The only reason you back load is because your salary cap is nearly used up.

This is only a guess but I think he'd be on 900k.

750k from the cap and 150k TPA.. That makes sense and still gives us money to play with .

There's no way we're back loading. Front loading if anything with a top up on his existing contract this year.

 

[happy_tiger]

Noting that the nrl have said they aren't registering backloaded contracts anymore…

Back loading Brooks makes no sense at all. We have money in the cap. The only reason you back load is because your salary cap is nearly used up.

This is only a guess but I think he'd be on 900k.

750k from the cap and 150k TPA.. That makes sense and still gives us money to play with .

There's no way we're back loading. Front loading if anything with a top up on his existing contract this year.

Luke has as where he wants us , we will not being paying anything under 850-900 k

When was the last time we attracted a top class half to the club that wasn't a major injury issue (Prince) include Wests and Balmain in those stats if you like …................. 😱pen_mouth:

 

[Tigerdon]

They are great stats.

Shows he is moving in the right direction. His control of a game and big match moments still need some work but he sure improved under a better pack and the coach asking more of him.

How do you measure "control" or "game management". Can you use stats on elements of his play or is that just someone's opinion?

Its a good question. Im not really sure but for me its measured by feeling comfortable watching a game and seeing a level of control and composure.

Agree with you patriot!
Bang on, the best example was Cronk in the grandfinal.

Or Alfie Langer when he was water boy at the Broncos.

 

[Tigerdon]

Agree on Cronk (imo-as you can't measure this) controlled the Roosters side in the GF amazing well for someone with a broken shoulder. As waterboy, Alfie could manage the Broncos team around the park even though he'd retired frm the game.
If Cronk was only 23 and had a busted shoulder I doubt Robinson would have played him in the GF.
Sterling had speed and zip when he was young. So did JT. like Sterlo he was very zippy when he was young. It wasn't until later they developed game management.

 

[tigerbenji]

Yes it was in the Telegraph that his contract was Back ended, but i took no notice of it, i think the league have stopped the Clubs from back ending Contracts.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

No I’m not guessing about the back loading , just going on what it said in the report that I read when it was announced, if it is true then we have learnt bugger all.

What did the reporter say..?

“it was 0n a backended contract”

Can you post the article..?

This is odd considering your stance on the media during the Voldermort saga yet seem to have taken this as gospel..

I’m pretty sure it was the Telegraph when they announced his signing, I don’t have the paper or the story,
I’ve already said that I was going on what was said there, and also said”if it was true”, I didn’t say it was Gospel.
Wouldn’t surprise me either way.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I guess those impressive stats were stacked up when we had solid dummy halves at the beginning and end of season unless someone can check exactly when and prove otherwise. When Jacob hits top form and full time in 2020 he can also have the Club over a barrel demanding the same as Luke because he is just as important and Luke is already getting it. We seen the shambles when we had poor dummy halves so they deserve more than the halves.

We may have set a bad precedent paying top dollar for someone not as consistent as Jacob in performance. If the halves don't measure up they can be avoided by a good active and creative DH but the DH is crucial.

 

[eyewonder]

fabulous news that this young man has resigned.
He was one of the big four that the tigers were hoping to resign
18 months back.when he did,reaction on this forum was lukewarm
to say the least.
the irony is that luke has been much more successful than both moses
and woods in the past 12 months.luke must be happy.
i wonder what woods and moses think about their decisions to leave now.

 

[newtiger]

fabulous news that this young man has resigned.
He was one of the big four that the tigers were hoping to resign
18 months back.when he did,reaction on this forum was lukewarm
to say the least.
the irony is that luke has been much more successful than both moses
and woods in the past 12 months.luke must be happy.
i wonder what woods and moses think about their decisions to leave now.

Geez has Luke reversed his decision already, he just re-signed now he's resigned.
NRL contracts are worth nothing now days.

 

[Tigerdon]

Brooks developed nicely in 2018\. His kicking control improved. His forced in goal/repeat sets were up there with the best. In 2018 was one of the best defensive halfbacks. Probably surpassed by Pearce and Cleary. His try assists and try scoring ability were very good.
Nathan Cleary has Maloney outside him who is a great game manager. DCE can be a good game manager but can go missing as well.
For most halves the game management doesn't come till later in there career. Nathan Cleary started well in this area but has a great forward pack in front of him and Maloney next to him.

Matty John's on JT.
"There's three key developments to Johnathan Thurston," Johns said.

"Number one was his physical transformation. When you look back at him at the Bulldogs, honestly, the biggest part of JT were his ears. It's a fantastic lesson to young men who play the sport and are late developers.

"Secondly, the development as a footballer. He first came to the Bulldogs in the mid-2000s and he looked like a rabbit trying to find a hole in a barbwire fence. He was a ducker and a darter, but I didn't see a brilliant slight of hand that you see these days. He was all effort, but he was essentially a runner.
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"Then he went to the Cowboys, turned up with Matty Bowen. They just played middle-third football, essentially both of them terrorizing the opposition with footwork, speed and understanding. All of a sudden, he starts to learn his craft and you see the brilliance comes in.

"The final evolution was Johnathan Thurston the man. As a young bloke, he was a scallywag, he was really cheeky. In the last five or six years, he's evolved into being one of the greatest role models that the sport has ever seen. In a lot of ways, he's turned his life around, not that he was ever a bad bastard, but now he's so good, on and off the field."

 

[innsaneink]

Brooks developed nicely in 2018\. His kicking control improved. His forced in goal/repeat sets were up there with the best. In 2018 was one of the best defensive halfbacks. Probably surpassed by Pearce and Cleary. His try assists and try scoring ability were very good.
Nathan Cleary has Maloney outside him who is a great game manager. DCE can be a good game manager but can go missing as well.
For most halves the game management doesn't come till later in there career. Nathan Cleary started well in this area but has a great forward pack in front of him and Maloney next to him.

Matty John's on JT.
"There's three key developments to Johnathan Thurston," Johns said.

"Number one was his physical transformation. When you look back at him at the Bulldogs, honestly, the biggest part of JT were his ears. It's a fantastic lesson to young men who play the sport and are late developers.

"Secondly, the development as a footballer. He first came to the Bulldogs in the mid-2000s and he looked like a rabbit trying to find a hole in a barbwire fence. He was a ducker and a darter, but I didn't see a brilliant slight of hand that you see these days. He was all effort, but he was essentially a runner.
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"Then he went to the Cowboys, turned up with Matty Bowen. They just played middle-third football, essentially both of them terrorizing the opposition with footwork, speed and understanding. All of a sudden, he starts to learn his craft and you see the brilliance comes in.

"The final evolution was Johnathan Thurston the man. As a young bloke, he was a scallywag, he was really cheeky. In the last five or six years, he's evolved into being one of the greatest role models that the sport has ever seen. In a lot of ways, he's turned his life around, not that he was ever a bad bastard, but now he's so good, on and off the field."

Good comparison Don.
If Brooks follows JTs development path, we can see he's midway now and the best is yet to come

 

[TheDaBoss]

I'm no Brooks fanboy but he is Dally M HB and you can't just fluke that result over 25 rounds.

Nobody reckons he's the best HB in the comp at peak form, but many and varied neutral judges said he was the best HB across a full season of club matches. That says perhaps his peak is not up with the best, but his consistency has become one of the best.

And he definitely has improvement in him. Maybe he won't see it, but as they say, you are only as good as your last, right?

:wink:
it aint over till the fat lady sings

 

[Tigerdon]

Having signed Brooks for 550k for 2019 and 3\. Something million for the fours after that is much better value than Souths signing Cook at 4.5 million over 5 years. Given the age, position and skill levels.

 

[greatodensraven]

^^ I like the sounds of that last paragraph. Work hard to take our team to the finals. Don’t jump ship to join a team of stars & hitch a ride…

 

[NT_Tiger]

^^ I like the sounds of that last paragraph. Work hard to take our team to the finals. Don’t jump ship to join a team of stars & hitch a ride…

The words of a mature and loyal person thinking about a teams progress, not just his own. He'll be a leader with that attitude.

 

[jirskyr]

That's right mate, take your current c lkub to the finals.