Luke Brooks

[pawsandclaws1]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Compare it to Reynolds kicking yesterday, not in the same universe. 0 repeat sets and mostly kicks dropping 10 or more metres out when we are in attacking position that were ineffective. His kick that dropped ON the try line to set up Laurie was excellent, he needs to do that kick more.

I expect my halfback to control a game with his kicking. He had very few kicks that either won us possession or set up scoring opportunities. He is very predictable.

The fact he kicked less than Doueihi is very damning

Drop Mitchell, Cook, Walker and Murray into our side and then make comparisons.

 

[JC99]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Compare it to Reynolds kicking yesterday, not in the same universe. 0 repeat sets and mostly kicks dropping 10 or more metres out when we are in attacking position that were ineffective. His kick that dropped ON the try line to set up Laurie was excellent, he needs to do that kick more.

I expect my halfback to control a game with his kicking. He had very few kicks that either won us possession or set up scoring opportunities. He is very predictable.

The fact he kicked less than Doueihi is very damning

Drop Mitchell, Cook, Walker and Murray into our side and then make comparisons.

Would that make him not boot the ball dead when he's 10 metres out? He had plenty of time for a lot of those kicks and got them wrong.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Compare it to Reynolds kicking yesterday, not in the same universe. 0 repeat sets and mostly kicks dropping 10 or more metres out when we are in attacking position that were ineffective. His kick that dropped ON the try line to set up Laurie was excellent, he needs to do that kick more.

I expect my halfback to control a game with his kicking. He had very few kicks that either won us possession or set up scoring opportunities. He is very predictable.

The fact he kicked less than Doueihi is very damning

Drop Mitchell, Cook, Walker and Murray into our side and then make comparisons.

Would that make him not boot the ball dead when he's 10 metres out? He had plenty of time for a lot of those kicks and got them wrong.

Brooks payed well against the Eels.

 

[JC99]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Compare it to Reynolds kicking yesterday, not in the same universe. 0 repeat sets and mostly kicks dropping 10 or more metres out when we are in attacking position that were ineffective. His kick that dropped ON the try line to set up Laurie was excellent, he needs to do that kick more.

I expect my halfback to control a game with his kicking. He had very few kicks that either won us possession or set up scoring opportunities. He is very predictable.

The fact he kicked less than Doueihi is very damning

Drop Mitchell, Cook, Walker and Murray into our side and then make comparisons.

Would that make him not boot the ball dead when he's 10 metres out? He had plenty of time for a lot of those kicks and got them wrong.

Brooks payed well against the Eels.

I never said he didn't. I just think his kicking game wasn't good enough. His passing, running and backing up was good which is an upgrade from other weeks. Just needs to force dropouts and build pressure with his kicks.

 

[Speed2burn]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Compare it to Reynolds kicking yesterday, not in the same universe. 0 repeat sets and mostly kicks dropping 10 or more metres out when we are in attacking position that were ineffective. His kick that dropped ON the try line to set up Laurie was excellent, he needs to do that kick more.

I expect my halfback to control a game with his kicking. He had very few kicks that either won us possession or set up scoring opportunities. He is very predictable.

The fact he kicked less than Doueihi is very damning

Yeah .. All those rep players Brooks is playing with , I can’t believe he’s not in the same ball park

 

[69-05-41]

Brooks' highlights package from his 2013 debut game runs for 4 minutes and 30 seconds which is exactly 4 minutes longer than his highlights reel for the entire 2020 season. Hard to believe a player that should be in the prime of his career has regressed so badly.

 

[TigerBlood93]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective. That's not a good outcome at all..... the one time he landed it on the try line we scored off it, all the other kicks landed 10 metres out. He never once turned around the opposition with a long kick into a corner either.

He puts the same two kicks in. A long kick straight down the throat of the opposition, or a short high kick that doesn't land on the try line. He doesn't even attempt grubber kicks into the in goal anymore after booting them all dead. In fact all we did was give it to Doueihi to kick because he's so much better at it.

Kicking is the #1 thing he needs to fix. His passing and running game has been good the last two weeks but if he wants to be a HALFBACK who leads the team around he needs to be better with the boot. I can't remember the last time we forced a dropout with a good kick or found the grass in the corner

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but just because Doueihi has a high torp that Ferguson and Gutho struggled to catch doesn’t mean his kicking game is “so much better”. Apart from those bombs his kicking game was actually not much better

How do you know that Brooks isn’t instructed by Madge to mid field bomb? it’s actually a common tactic in today’s game and most teams do it. Like they say, your kick is only as good as your chase and maybe we aren’t getting the 1%’rs right

So what you're saying is if you take out all the good kicks Adam did his kicking wasn't much better than brooks?

If Madge is coaching brooks to kick straight down the throat of the opposition every single time then he needs to be sacked on the spot. Watch how Moses continually found the corners and turned us around - brooks was dropping them 30 metres out.

Field position is so crucial and brooks just isn't good at it. He's not a bad player but he's not a halfback either.

No I’m saying the reason adams kicks were so effective is because gutho and Ferguson had flipper hands. If gutho and Ferguson didn’t drop those bombs are his kicks even really any better?

What do you mean? Watch Penrith tonight. Or literally any top team play. The gap between the top teams and teams like us is first and foremost talent obviously and effort. I’m not saying Brooks is awesome at kicking but if our players actually had a dig you’d probably get a better result and force an error or something.

Brooks can’t even put up a spiral bomb
Doueihi has to do it ..

He doesn’t have to, clearly that’s doueihis job, brooks will focus on other parts of the game

 

[TigerBlood93]

Brooks' highlights package from his 2013 debut game runs for 4 minutes and 30 seconds which is exactly 4 minutes longer than his highlights reel for the entire 2020 season. Hard to believe a player that should be in the prime of his career has regressed so badly.

He had a bad season last year but hey so did the whole squad. But he’s getting better every game, so instead of the usual bashing every game how about you think about what he’s done better every game. He’s our half so support him or stay mute. He’s 5th in try assists for this season. Just imagine still getting still getting thrashed by fans.

 

[Speed2burn]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Most of people’s criteria for Brooks having a good game is out of whack.

He played well against Parra, and knights

 

[pawsandclaws1]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Compare it to Reynolds kicking yesterday, not in the same universe. 0 repeat sets and mostly kicks dropping 10 or more metres out when we are in attacking position that were ineffective. His kick that dropped ON the try line to set up Laurie was excellent, he needs to do that kick more.

I expect my halfback to control a game with his kicking. He had very few kicks that either won us possession or set up scoring opportunities. He is very predictable.

The fact he kicked less than Doueihi is very damning

Drop Mitchell, Cook, Walker and Murray into our side and then make comparisons.

Would that make him not boot the ball dead when he's 10 metres out? He had plenty of time for a lot of those kicks and got them wrong.

Brooks payed well against the Eels.

I never said he didn't. I just think his kicking game wasn't good enough. His passing, running and backing up was good which is an upgrade from other weeks. Just needs to force dropouts and build pressure with his kicks.

Rated a 9.9 but still a fail.

Better get the new effigies ready for Leichhardt.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I used to play some golf with his dad sometimes back in the Taylor days and he used to say Taylor would go berserk at Brooks and Moses if they didn't do a bomb etc
Not an excuse for Brooks but a fair bit of creativity went during that time

 

[JC99]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Compare it to Reynolds kicking yesterday, not in the same universe. 0 repeat sets and mostly kicks dropping 10 or more metres out when we are in attacking position that were ineffective. His kick that dropped ON the try line to set up Laurie was excellent, he needs to do that kick more.

I expect my halfback to control a game with his kicking. He had very few kicks that either won us possession or set up scoring opportunities. He is very predictable.

The fact he kicked less than Doueihi is very damning

Drop Mitchell, Cook, Walker and Murray into our side and then make comparisons.

Would that make him not boot the ball dead when he's 10 metres out? He had plenty of time for a lot of those kicks and got them wrong.

Brooks payed well against the Eels.

I never said he didn't. I just think his kicking game wasn't good enough. His passing, running and backing up was good which is an upgrade from other weeks. Just needs to force dropouts and build pressure with his kicks.

Rated a 9.9 but still a fail.

Better get the new effigies ready for Leichhardt.

He definitely wasn't a 9.9 out of 10. More like a 7 or 7.5. He's meant to be the man in control of the team

 

[hobbo1]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Compare it to Reynolds kicking yesterday, not in the same universe. 0 repeat sets and mostly kicks dropping 10 or more metres out when we are in attacking position that were ineffective. His kick that dropped ON the try line to set up Laurie was excellent, he needs to do that kick more.

I expect my halfback to control a game with his kicking. He had very few kicks that either won us possession or set up scoring opportunities. He is very predictable.

The fact he kicked less than Doueihi is very damning

Drop Mitchell, Cook, Walker and Murray into our side and then make comparisons.

Would that make him not boot the ball dead when he's 10 metres out? He had plenty of time for a lot of those kicks and got them wrong.

Brooks payed well against the Eels.

I never said he didn't. I just think his kicking game wasn't good enough. His passing, running and backing up was good which is an upgrade from other weeks. Just needs to force dropouts and build pressure with his kicks.

Rated a 9.9 but still a fail.

Better get the new effigies ready for Leichhardt.

9.9 lmao

Turn it up ?

I think someone’s spiked your fairy bread

 

[pawsandclaws1]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Compare it to Reynolds kicking yesterday, not in the same universe. 0 repeat sets and mostly kicks dropping 10 or more metres out when we are in attacking position that were ineffective. His kick that dropped ON the try line to set up Laurie was excellent, he needs to do that kick more.

I expect my halfback to control a game with his kicking. He had very few kicks that either won us possession or set up scoring opportunities. He is very predictable.

The fact he kicked less than Doueihi is very damning

Drop Mitchell, Cook, Walker and Murray into our side and then make comparisons.

Would that make him not boot the ball dead when he's 10 metres out? He had plenty of time for a lot of those kicks and got them wrong.

Brooks payed well against the Eels.

I never said he didn't. I just think his kicking game wasn't good enough. His passing, running and backing up was good which is an upgrade from other weeks. Just needs to force dropouts and build pressure with his kicks.

Rated a 9.9 but still a fail.

Better get the new effigies ready for Leichhardt.

9.9 lmao

Turn it up ?

I think someone’s spiked your fairy bread

I will admit his performance wasn't a 10 like Nadia Komenich, but it was close.

Now, where are the pitchforks, tar, feathers

 

[Deleted member 3518]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective. That's not a good outcome at all..... the one time he landed it on the try line we scored off it, all the other kicks landed 10 metres out. He never once turned around the opposition with a long kick into a corner either.

He puts the same two kicks in. A long kick straight down the throat of the opposition, or a short high kick that doesn't land on the try line. He doesn't even attempt grubber kicks into the in goal anymore after booting them all dead. In fact all we did was give it to Doueihi to kick because he's so much better at it.

Kicking is the #1 thing he needs to fix. His passing and running game has been good the last two weeks but if he wants to be a HALFBACK who leads the team around he needs to be better with the boot. I can't remember the last time we forced a dropout with a good kick or found the grass in the corner

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but just because Doueihi has a high torp that Ferguson and Gutho struggled to catch doesn’t mean his kicking game is “so much better”. Apart from those bombs his kicking game was actually not much better

How do you know that Brooks isn’t instructed by Madge to mid field bomb? it’s actually a common tactic in today’s game and most teams do it. Like they say, your kick is only as good as your chase and maybe we aren’t getting the 1%’rs right

So what you're saying is if you take out all the good kicks Adam did his kicking wasn't much better than brooks?

If Madge is coaching brooks to kick straight down the throat of the opposition every single time then he needs to be sacked on the spot. Watch how Moses continually found the corners and turned us around - brooks was dropping them 30 metres out.

Field position is so crucial and brooks just isn't good at it. He's not a bad player but he's not a halfback either.

No I’m saying the reason adams kicks were so effective is because gutho and Ferguson had flipper hands. If gutho and Ferguson didn’t drop those bombs are his kicks even really any better?

What do you mean? Watch Penrith tonight. Or literally any top team play. The gap between the top teams and teams like us is first and foremost talent obviously and effort. I’m not saying Brooks is awesome at kicking but if our players actually had a dig you’d probably get a better result and force an error or something.

Brooks can’t even put up a spiral bomb
Doueihi has to do it ..

He doesn’t have to, clearly that’s doueihis job, brooks will focus on other parts of the game

Neither can most of the halves in the Comp. have you seen Pearce kick ? The warriors players kick ? The Titans Fogarty ? It was Moses’ kicks against us that created momentum shifts it was Mahoney .
Man , I’ve come around to empathise with the brooks haters a bit , but only ones saying they actually want him to come good , they’re just sure it won’t happen .
For the guys who hate him , have always hated him , and some of it is personal for some of you . Maybe he brushed you at the HHHs when you were maggot and being a flea , I don’t know , but if you’re actively death riding our half , which basically means your death riding the team , to what ? Be proven right ? Then what does that say about you ?
We need to win , he needs to lead us to wins . It’s that simple . But get behind the bloke . Don’t death ride him. Because the better he goes , the better the team goes .

 

[hobbo1]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective.

Go and watch the game again. I did. Brooks kicking game was good. Your criteria for a good kicking game is out of whack.

Compare it to Reynolds kicking yesterday, not in the same universe. 0 repeat sets and mostly kicks dropping 10 or more metres out when we are in attacking position that were ineffective. His kick that dropped ON the try line to set up Laurie was excellent, he needs to do that kick more.

I expect my halfback to control a game with his kicking. He had very few kicks that either won us possession or set up scoring opportunities. He is very predictable.

The fact he kicked less than Doueihi is very damning

Drop Mitchell, Cook, Walker and Murray into our side and then make comparisons.

Would that make him not boot the ball dead when he's 10 metres out? He had plenty of time for a lot of those kicks and got them wrong.

Brooks payed well against the Eels.

I never said he didn't. I just think his kicking game wasn't good enough. His passing, running and backing up was good which is an upgrade from other weeks. Just needs to force dropouts and build pressure with his kicks.

Rated a 9.9 but still a fail.

Better get the new effigies ready for Leichhardt.

9.9 lmao

Turn it up ?

I think someone’s spiked your fairy bread

I will admit his performance wasn't a 10 like Nadia Komenich, but it was close.

Now, where are the pitchforks, tar, feathers

DeLUsiONal ?

 

[Needaname]

How can anyone think Brooks had a good game with his kicking last week? He did 7 kicks and ONE was effective. That's not a good outcome at all..... the one time he landed it on the try line we scored off it, all the other kicks landed 10 metres out. He never once turned around the opposition with a long kick into a corner either.

He puts the same two kicks in. A long kick straight down the throat of the opposition, or a short high kick that doesn't land on the try line. He doesn't even attempt grubber kicks into the in goal anymore after booting them all dead. In fact all we did was give it to Doueihi to kick because he's so much better at it.

Kicking is the #1 thing he needs to fix. His passing and running game has been good the last two weeks but if he wants to be a HALFBACK who leads the team around he needs to be better with the boot. I can't remember the last time we forced a dropout with a good kick or found the grass in the corner

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but just because Doueihi has a high torp that Ferguson and Gutho struggled to catch doesn’t mean his kicking game is “so much better”. Apart from those bombs his kicking game was actually not much better

How do you know that Brooks isn’t instructed by Madge to mid field bomb? it’s actually a common tactic in today’s game and most teams do it. Like they say, your kick is only as good as your chase and maybe we aren’t getting the 1%’rs right

So what you're saying is if you take out all the good kicks Adam did his kicking wasn't much better than brooks?

If Madge is coaching brooks to kick straight down the throat of the opposition every single time then he needs to be sacked on the spot. Watch how Moses continually found the corners and turned us around - brooks was dropping them 30 metres out.

Field position is so crucial and brooks just isn't good at it. He's not a bad player but he's not a halfback either.

Do you change your context to suit your agenda. In your post before this you mentioned Brooks continuely had the ball landing 10 meters out. Now it’s 30 out.
If you notice trends, a high bomb that lands on the 10m line is more effective than a long kick to the corners.
Just think logically for a second now and consider this. If our kick chasers can’t line up to to strongly defend a bomb with plenty of hang time to get under. What hope does our halves have with our kick chasers if they kick on the ground to the corner?
To get a kick in that position, you need to launch the ball low and hard. That would be asking our chase to move 3x as quick otherwise the first tackle would be on the 40 m line every time.

 

[Geo]

You reckon given the events of the week we would just give it a rest..for 1 week..

Agree Geo, some people just can’t help themselves...

Looks like

 

[tig_prmz]

This thread interests me only because I wonder if anyone legitimately believes Jock Madden is an alternative to Brooks. From what I've seen of Madden, the answer is no.

After Madden there is nobody else close to being NRL standard, not unless we run out some cobbled halves pairing like Moses and Doueihi.

I'm all for giving Madden a run and, hell, why not drop Brooks and see what happens with an alternative strategy? Madge can do it and I won't be upset - most fans would cop it.

Buy my head and heart both tell me that Brooks' replacement would just get mauled, worse than Brooks. Until we sign a legitimate replacement, or some kid from the juniors gets old enough and good enough, Brooks it is... kind of pointless banging on about it every week.

Out of curiosity, do you see Brooks as the halfback who can lead us to top 4 in the next 2 years? Or even top 8? What % would you give?

I know it's not all up to the halfback and yeh Madden might not be ready yet but I think we should tell Brooks he's free to look elsewhere so we can start planning without him. You're saying there isn't a succession plan which is fair but we can't make that plan without him. We can't speak to Reynolds with Brooks on the books.

 

[Spartan117]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/stats/players?editiondata=none&fromakamai=true&pt=none&device=DESKTOP&sortBy=tryAssists&wpa=BB44D82C3D7223D393F2AE47579FB5EA6791ABE4&position=halfback
Don’t look if you’re anti Brooks, because the stats say he’s doing ok

Stats can tell us what ever we want, 42% of people know this.