Luke Brooks

[AdelaideTiger]

Here's what Brooks did well in 2021:
1. Managing a set inside our own 40m.
2. Long kicks. Found grass more often than not.
3. Cross field kicks.
4. One on one defence - made the right call on who to tackle most times
5. Organising shape.

The bad in 2021:
1. Red-zone attack
2. Second phase play
3. Variation in shape - when it's clear our shape was not going to get a positive result, he didn't offer many variation plays, e.g. drop under, cut-out ball.

I think that's a fair assessment. The only thing I would counter is that his long kicking game while accurate, was not all that long, and didn't really put opposition back 3s under a heap of pressure.

 

[innsaneink]

Another thread where I just shake my head.

Notwithstanding whether you rate Brooks or not.. **People whinging about the club making a firm and decisive statement in quick time. Not long ago people whinging the club does not say enough quick enough.**
I'm glad I'm not running the club. You would never keep everyone happy.

Probably different people no doubt

Probably, so how does the club appease everyone?

Never will... But thats what this place is for to air grievances, give credit criticism.. Discuss the team and club

 

[twentyforty]

Well, decision made by the sounds of it. I support the team but I have such a low expectation of Brooks I will be very happy if he can get it together. If not , by at most halfway through the season, the knives will be out again for both Brooks and Maguire. I hope it can be turned around but please allow my doubts after 9 seasons and its everyone else's fault except Brooks. Brooks has to fire in the first half surely or that's it isn't it?

Decisions probably been made because Sheens has seen Hastings close up ......

Maybe? Either way I’m pleased the club has made a public statement. A stage whisper directed at Redcliffe.

I can't see Bennett chasing Bricks .....

I’ve always respected your opinion on a player’s value to the team, however Hap, this time.. I can understand the frustration of many, but as you know frustration doesn’t win footy games. Getting rid of one of our best players because he’s not a Cronk or Thurston , who by the way weren’t surrounded with those in Brooks’ orbit, is not going to strengthen our chances of winning.
Not a lot has changed in the club over the last 20 years. Apart from maybe 3 seasons, the fans have not seen their modest expectations exceeded. I think it’s unfair to place all this responsibility on the shoulders of a single person in the club, whether that person is in the playing group or the back office.
wouldn’t it be great if we had a backline like Storm or Rabbits?

 

[Red Rugby]

All I know is this constant banter about Brooks is right up there with root canal therapy. Let’s give it a break for a day or two, surely there has to be a rumour from a far removed source about a potential signing…if not make one up, it’s better than endless posts on Brooks

Amen to that! Trying to get posters to stick to the topic is like trying to herd cats!

 

[Tiger5150]

You put Brooks in one of the top teams like Storm or Roosters & you will see the difference he is not the problem.

Brooks is on par with Brodie Croft… he would have been punted.

Let's not be silly now. Brodie Croft is another thing entirely.

Come on ... looking at them they could almost be brothers.
I put Brooksy between him and the non performing Ash Taylor.

The thing is though, if the club was to move him on, Brooks would get another gig. Croft hasn’t.

And Brooks would have Half a dozen clubs after him if he did leave - The afore mentioned players don't / wouldn't / Didn't

Well, maybe Newcastle would want him if Pearce goes ... and maybe the Bulldogs.
You're wrong about the other two.
Croft was given another chance at Brisbane after Melbourne didn't want him. Taylor was poached from Brisbane to the Titans.
Both failed.
If someone was silly enough to take Brooks they'd get the same result.
What you see is what you get... he's not going to play any differently no matter where he goes.
Just wish he wasn't stinking up our team.

But you see how the top sides operate with the decisions of the Roosters with Flanagan and the Storm with Croft

They don't cut it and are unsuitable ...and they are gone quick smart .....

We need to take something from that .....too many players are given far too long to make it here

Croft and Flanagan wish they could have games like Brooks. They are not appropriate comparisons. Not saying Luke is anything above average but he is a whole level above those two. I think he's not reached the levels wer want due to coaching, self-confidence and the roster around him. Ivan got the talent out of him.

lol....Ill have what she's having.

Huh? You don't agree that he played better under Ivan? You genuinely think Kyle Flanagan is better than Brooks? If that's the case I'll have some of what you're having.

This place is poisonous at the moment. You get downvoted and suggested you are "on something" for simply expressing an opinion about Brooks that isnt "he is rubbish, punt him". I share your opinion of Brooks and as you say its actually demonstrably true by facts.

Its also very cool that many have a different opinion and hate Brooks and blame him for our poor performance and COVID but the poisonous level of vitriol lately here for anyone that wants to do anything less than crucify Brooks is OTT.

EDIT: Apologies for continuing the Brooksathon in this thread, should have read the room before posting.

 

[Tiger5150]

You put Brooks in one of the top teams like Storm or Roosters & you will see the difference he is not the problem.

Brooks is on par with Brodie Croft… he would have been punted.

Let's not be silly now. Brodie Croft is another thing entirely.

Come on ... looking at them they could almost be brothers.
I put Brooksy between him and the non performing Ash Taylor.

The thing is though, if the club was to move him on, Brooks would get another gig. Croft hasn’t.

And Brooks would have Half a dozen clubs after him if he did leave - The afore mentioned players don't / wouldn't / Didn't

Well, maybe Newcastle would want him if Pearce goes ... and maybe the Bulldogs.
You're wrong about the other two.
Croft was given another chance at Brisbane after Melbourne didn't want him. Taylor was poached from Brisbane to the Titans.
Both failed.
If someone was silly enough to take Brooks they'd get the same result.
What you see is what you get... he's not going to play any differently no matter where he goes.
Just wish he wasn't stinking up our team.

But you see how the top sides operate with the decisions of the Roosters with Flanagan and the Storm with Croft

They don't cut it and are unsuitable ...and they are gone quick smart .....

We need to take something from that .....too many players are given far too long to make it here

Croft and Flanagan wish they could have games like Brooks. They are not appropriate comparisons. Not saying Luke is anything above average but he is a whole level above those two. I think he's not reached the levels wer want due to coaching, self-confidence and the roster around him. Ivan got the talent out of him.

You have missed the entire point

The Roosters or Storm wouldn't keep the leading play maker if they couldn't lead them to the finals for 8 seasons .....

Roosters or Storm dont rely on one bloke. Roosters or Storm wouldnt keep the leading play maker......if they had already built the team around them. Apples and persimmons.

 

[happy_tiger]

Well, decision made by the sounds of it. I support the team but I have such a low expectation of Brooks I will be very happy if he can get it together. If not , by at most halfway through the season, the knives will be out again for both Brooks and Maguire. I hope it can be turned around but please allow my doubts after 9 seasons and its everyone else's fault except Brooks. Brooks has to fire in the first half surely or that's it isn't it?

Decisions probably been made because Sheens has seen Hastings close up ......

Maybe? Either way I’m pleased the club has made a public statement. A stage whisper directed at Redcliffe.

I can't see Bennett chasing Bricks .....

I’ve always respected your opinion on a player’s value to the team, however Hap, this time.. I can understand the frustration of many, but as you know frustration doesn’t win footy games. Getting rid of one of our best players because he’s not a Cronk or Thurston , who by the way weren’t surrounded with those in Brooks’ orbit, is not going to strengthen our chances of winning.
Not a lot has changed in the club over the last 20 years. Apart from maybe 3 seasons, the fans have not seen their modest expectations exceeded. I think it’s unfair to place all this responsibility on the shoulders of a single person in the club, whether that person is in the playing group or the back office.
wouldn’t it be great if we had a backline like Storm or Rabbits?

I'm assuming Redcliffe will get Munster .....and I'm not sure they will need a Brooks style player ......and if they also get Mouldy or Harry ......the 7 just needs to have good hands and a solid kicking game .....and Brooks /Moses will want at least 600 k still .....just don't see it happening ...sorry

 

[happy_tiger]

You put Brooks in one of the top teams like Storm or Roosters & you will see the difference he is not the problem.

Brooks is on par with Brodie Croft… he would have been punted.

Let's not be silly now. Brodie Croft is another thing entirely.

Come on ... looking at them they could almost be brothers.
I put Brooksy between him and the non performing Ash Taylor.

The thing is though, if the club was to move him on, Brooks would get another gig. Croft hasn’t.

And Brooks would have Half a dozen clubs after him if he did leave - The afore mentioned players don't / wouldn't / Didn't

Well, maybe Newcastle would want him if Pearce goes ... and maybe the Bulldogs.
You're wrong about the other two.
Croft was given another chance at Brisbane after Melbourne didn't want him. Taylor was poached from Brisbane to the Titans.
Both failed.
If someone was silly enough to take Brooks they'd get the same result.
What you see is what you get... he's not going to play any differently no matter where he goes.
Just wish he wasn't stinking up our team.

But you see how the top sides operate with the decisions of the Roosters with Flanagan and the Storm with Croft

They don't cut it and are unsuitable ...and they are gone quick smart .....

We need to take something from that .....too many players are given far too long to make it here

Croft and Flanagan wish they could have games like Brooks. They are not appropriate comparisons. Not saying Luke is anything above average but he is a whole level above those two. I think he's not reached the levels wer want due to coaching, self-confidence and the roster around him. Ivan got the talent out of him.

You have missed the entire point

The Roosters or Storm wouldn't keep the leading play maker if they couldn't lead them to the finals for 8 seasons .....

Roosters or Storm dont rely on one bloke. Roosters or Storm wouldnt keep the leading play maker......if they had already built the team around them. Apples and persimmons.

You don't think the Storm could recognize the link between no finals for 8 seasons and the halve being there 8 seasons .....

Something many aren't allowing for ....Brooks mental state .....Bit like any Pommy cricketer chosen between 1993-2001 to play in an Ashes series ....the demons have just become too great .....

 

[Tiger5150]

You put Brooks in one of the top teams like Storm or Roosters & you will see the difference he is not the problem.

Brooks is on par with Brodie Croft… he would have been punted.

Let's not be silly now. Brodie Croft is another thing entirely.

Come on ... looking at them they could almost be brothers.
I put Brooksy between him and the non performing Ash Taylor.

The thing is though, if the club was to move him on, Brooks would get another gig. Croft hasn’t.

And Brooks would have Half a dozen clubs after him if he did leave - The afore mentioned players don't / wouldn't / Didn't

Well, maybe Newcastle would want him if Pearce goes ... and maybe the Bulldogs.
You're wrong about the other two.
Croft was given another chance at Brisbane after Melbourne didn't want him. Taylor was poached from Brisbane to the Titans.
Both failed.
If someone was silly enough to take Brooks they'd get the same result.
What you see is what you get... he's not going to play any differently no matter where he goes.
Just wish he wasn't stinking up our team.

But you see how the top sides operate with the decisions of the Roosters with Flanagan and the Storm with Croft

They don't cut it and are unsuitable ...and they are gone quick smart .....

We need to take something from that .....too many players are given far too long to make it here

Croft and Flanagan wish they could have games like Brooks. They are not appropriate comparisons. Not saying Luke is anything above average but he is a whole level above those two. I think he's not reached the levels wer want due to coaching, self-confidence and the roster around him. Ivan got the talent out of him.

You have missed the entire point

The Roosters or Storm wouldn't keep the leading play maker if they couldn't lead them to the finals for 8 seasons .....

Roosters or Storm dont rely on one bloke. Roosters or Storm wouldnt keep the leading play maker......if they had already built the team around them. Apples and persimmons.

You don't think the Storm could recognize the link between no finals for 8 seasons and the halve being there 8 seasons .....

Firstly, obviously Roosters & Storm never get themselves in the position to miss 8 years of finals, but its not because the cut the 7 early and replace him. Its because they build a great team and THEN if the 7 isnt cutting it in this perfect environment they act fast to replace that important piece in the puzzle.

Our puzzle has had the box shaken and half a dozen pieces are missing.

 

[WeststigsRdaBest]

You put Brooks in one of the top teams like Storm or Roosters & you will see the difference he is not the problem.

Brooks is on par with Brodie Croft… he would have been punted.

Let's not be silly now. Brodie Croft is another thing entirely.

Come on ... looking at them they could almost be brothers.
I put Brooksy between him and the non performing Ash Taylor.

The thing is though, if the club was to move him on, Brooks would get another gig. Croft hasn’t.

And Brooks would have Half a dozen clubs after him if he did leave - The afore mentioned players don't / wouldn't / Didn't

Well, maybe Newcastle would want him if Pearce goes ... and maybe the Bulldogs.
You're wrong about the other two.
Croft was given another chance at Brisbane after Melbourne didn't want him. Taylor was poached from Brisbane to the Titans.
Both failed.
If someone was silly enough to take Brooks they'd get the same result.
What you see is what you get... he's not going to play any differently no matter where he goes.
Just wish he wasn't stinking up our team.

But you see how the top sides operate with the decisions of the Roosters with Flanagan and the Storm with Croft

They don't cut it and are unsuitable ...and they are gone quick smart .....

We need to take something from that .....too many players are given far too long to make it here

Croft and Flanagan wish they could have games like Brooks. They are not appropriate comparisons. Not saying Luke is anything above average but he is a whole level above those two. I think he's not reached the levels wer want due to coaching, self-confidence and the roster around him. Ivan got the talent out of him.

lol....Ill have what she's having.

Huh? You don't agree that he played better under Ivan? You genuinely think Kyle Flanagan is better than Brooks? If that's the case I'll have some of what you're having.

This place is poisonous at the moment. You get downvoted and suggested you are "on something" for simply expressing an opinion about Brooks that isnt "he is rubbish, punt him". I share your opinion of Brooks and as you say its actually demonstrably true by facts.

Its also very cool that many have a different opinion and hate Brooks and blame him for our poor performance and COVID but the poisonous level of vitriol lately here for anyone that wants to do anything less than crucify Brooks is OTT.

EDIT: Apologies for continuing the Brooksathon in this thread, should have read the room before posting.

The forum has declined a lot recently..no different to LU if you ask me. But I think that may have more to do with humanity also being in a huge decline

 

[happy_tiger]

You put Brooks in one of the top teams like Storm or Roosters & you will see the difference he is not the problem.

Brooks is on par with Brodie Croft… he would have been punted.

Let's not be silly now. Brodie Croft is another thing entirely.

Come on ... looking at them they could almost be brothers.
I put Brooksy between him and the non performing Ash Taylor.

The thing is though, if the club was to move him on, Brooks would get another gig. Croft hasn’t.

And Brooks would have Half a dozen clubs after him if he did leave - The afore mentioned players don't / wouldn't / Didn't

Well, maybe Newcastle would want him if Pearce goes ... and maybe the Bulldogs.
You're wrong about the other two.
Croft was given another chance at Brisbane after Melbourne didn't want him. Taylor was poached from Brisbane to the Titans.
Both failed.
If someone was silly enough to take Brooks they'd get the same result.
What you see is what you get... he's not going to play any differently no matter where he goes.
Just wish he wasn't stinking up our team.

But you see how the top sides operate with the decisions of the Roosters with Flanagan and the Storm with Croft

They don't cut it and are unsuitable ...and they are gone quick smart .....

We need to take something from that .....too many players are given far too long to make it here

Croft and Flanagan wish they could have games like Brooks. They are not appropriate comparisons. Not saying Luke is anything above average but he is a whole level above those two. I think he's not reached the levels wer want due to coaching, self-confidence and the roster around him. Ivan got the talent out of him.

You have missed the entire point

The Roosters or Storm wouldn't keep the leading play maker if they couldn't lead them to the finals for 8 seasons .....

Roosters or Storm dont rely on one bloke. Roosters or Storm wouldnt keep the leading play maker......if they had already built the team around them. Apples and persimmons.

You don't think the Storm could recognize the link between no finals for 8 seasons and the halve being there 8 seasons .....


Firstly, obviously Roosters & Storm never get themselves in the position to miss 8 years of finals, but its not because the cut the 7 early and replace him. Its because they build a great team and THEN if the 7 isnt cutting it in this perfect environment they act fast to replace that important piece in the puzzle.

Our puzzle has had the box shaken and half a dozen pieces are missing.

His box has been rolled down mt everest ...and one of his ex coaches conquered it with Sherpas Kikau , Luai , Yeo etc

For Bricks own sake he needs to leave ....

 

[Tiger5150]

You put Brooks in one of the top teams like Storm or Roosters & you will see the difference he is not the problem.

Brooks is on par with Brodie Croft… he would have been punted.

Let's not be silly now. Brodie Croft is another thing entirely.

Come on ... looking at them they could almost be brothers.
I put Brooksy between him and the non performing Ash Taylor.

The thing is though, if the club was to move him on, Brooks would get another gig. Croft hasn’t.

And Brooks would have Half a dozen clubs after him if he did leave - The afore mentioned players don't / wouldn't / Didn't

Well, maybe Newcastle would want him if Pearce goes ... and maybe the Bulldogs.
You're wrong about the other two.
Croft was given another chance at Brisbane after Melbourne didn't want him. Taylor was poached from Brisbane to the Titans.
Both failed.
If someone was silly enough to take Brooks they'd get the same result.
What you see is what you get... he's not going to play any differently no matter where he goes.
Just wish he wasn't stinking up our team.

But you see how the top sides operate with the decisions of the Roosters with Flanagan and the Storm with Croft

They don't cut it and are unsuitable ...and they are gone quick smart .....

We need to take something from that .....too many players are given far too long to make it here

Croft and Flanagan wish they could have games like Brooks. They are not appropriate comparisons. Not saying Luke is anything above average but he is a whole level above those two. I think he's not reached the levels wer want due to coaching, self-confidence and the roster around him. Ivan got the talent out of him.

You have missed the entire point

The Roosters or Storm wouldn't keep the leading play maker if they couldn't lead them to the finals for 8 seasons .....

Roosters or Storm dont rely on one bloke. Roosters or Storm wouldnt keep the leading play maker......if they had already built the team around them. Apples and persimmons.

You don't think the Storm could recognize the link between no finals for 8 seasons and the halve being there 8 seasons .....


Firstly, obviously Roosters & Storm never get themselves in the position to miss 8 years of finals, but its not because the cut the 7 early and replace him. Its because they build a great team and THEN if the 7 isnt cutting it in this perfect environment they act fast to replace that important piece in the puzzle.

Our puzzle has had the box shaken and half a dozen pieces are missing.

His box has been rolled down mt everest ...and one of his ex coaches ***conquered it with Sherpas Kikau , Luai , Yeo etc***

arent you kinda proving my point?

 

[happy_tiger]

You put Brooks in one of the top teams like Storm or Roosters & you will see the difference he is not the problem.

Brooks is on par with Brodie Croft… he would have been punted.

Let's not be silly now. Brodie Croft is another thing entirely.

Come on ... looking at them they could almost be brothers.
I put Brooksy between him and the non performing Ash Taylor.

The thing is though, if the club was to move him on, Brooks would get another gig. Croft hasn’t.

And Brooks would have Half a dozen clubs after him if he did leave - The afore mentioned players don't / wouldn't / Didn't

Well, maybe Newcastle would want him if Pearce goes ... and maybe the Bulldogs.
You're wrong about the other two.
Croft was given another chance at Brisbane after Melbourne didn't want him. Taylor was poached from Brisbane to the Titans.
Both failed.
If someone was silly enough to take Brooks they'd get the same result.
What you see is what you get... he's not going to play any differently no matter where he goes.
Just wish he wasn't stinking up our team.

But you see how the top sides operate with the decisions of the Roosters with Flanagan and the Storm with Croft

They don't cut it and are unsuitable ...and they are gone quick smart .....

We need to take something from that .....too many players are given far too long to make it here

Croft and Flanagan wish they could have games like Brooks. They are not appropriate comparisons. Not saying Luke is anything above average but he is a whole level above those two. I think he's not reached the levels wer want due to coaching, self-confidence and the roster around him. Ivan got the talent out of him.

You have missed the entire point

The Roosters or Storm wouldn't keep the leading play maker if they couldn't lead them to the finals for 8 seasons .....

Roosters or Storm dont rely on one bloke. Roosters or Storm wouldnt keep the leading play maker......if they had already built the team around them. Apples and persimmons.

You don't think the Storm could recognize the link between no finals for 8 seasons and the halve being there 8 seasons .....


Firstly, obviously Roosters & Storm never get themselves in the position to miss 8 years of finals, but its not because the cut the 7 early and replace him. Its because they build a great team and THEN if the 7 isnt cutting it in this perfect environment they act fast to replace that important piece in the puzzle.

Our puzzle has had the box shaken and half a dozen pieces are missing.

His box has been rolled down mt everest ...and one of his ex coaches ***conquered it with Sherpas Kikau , Luai , Yeo etc***


arent you kinda proving my point?

We will never attract those Sherpas .....ours get squashed by Glaciers because they can't move fast enough ....are petrified by the eggshells laid by the fearsome Nepalese Chicken .....get lost in non existant snow storms .....and their fans groans create avalanches that bury the rest .....the rest complain of frostbite and then join climbing parties who will easy climb Everest ......

 

[cktiger]

This is a very interesting read… Brooks might still go.

https://www.zerotackle.com/why-the-tigers-must-move-brooks-on-111376/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Balmain+Tigers+Fangroup&fbclid=IwAR2tFW3Uc9TdJS3huQpzz8JCRFHdzqK86wChUxSSJY0BdNieFeZN7SBeaOM

 

[Telltails]

If Brooks is not buying into the coach, as our highest paid player he and the club should do their best to find him another club. We (fans) might be guessing and have opinions about whether the speculative talk is legit, but the players would know, and if it is true then it would be stupid not to act now.

 

[TillLindemann]

If Brooks is here next year I will support him. If Hastings is the organiser and it is made clear to Brooks that he is not expected to organise, I think he might be very good for us, with no weight on his shoulders.

 

[TillLindemann]

Okey Dokey...I just moved 102 posts on Luke Brooks to the Luke Brooks thread but started to get a headache.. so please post Luke Brooks discussion in the relevant thread..

Awe crumps ..so it continues..

Sorry, I just violated it. Won't do it again.

 

[Newtown]

The jounalists are reading our forum again.

 

[Tiger5150]

If Brooks is here next year I will support him. If Hastings is the organiser and it is made clear to Brooks that he is not expected to organise, I think he might be very good for us, with no weight on his shoulders.

Agreed. I am not a big Hastings fan and have never been over the moon about his signing and the dont understand the overwhelming praise here for him......however I genuinely hope he tears up in preseason and when he runs on in our jersey I genuinely hope he does great and plays his part in turning this team around. Its possible to do exactly the same for Brooks.....or TT or AJ or anyone really.

I had exactly the same attitude and feelings about Reynolds. Im hoping this turns out different.

 

[TillLindemann]

I just posted this in the wrong thread:

If Brooks is here next year I will support him. If Hastings is the organiser and it is made clear to Brooks that he is not expected to organise, I think he might be very good for us, with no weight on his shoulders.