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@cktiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297627) said:
Has there ever been a player given so many excuses for under performing as Brooks?
He's got talent but obviously not much nous.
Keep taking the wrong options this year and he'll be saying goodbye.
Looks like we might finally have a younger halfback to put some pressure on him.

The excuses just keep rolling in it seems.

It Grants service
It's Benji
It's our forwards
It's the game plan
It's the coach
It's the bus driver
It's his mum not putting enough Vegemite on his toast
It's the weather
It's the culture
It's Mabo
It's the serenity
It's Brooks life matters
It's covid
It's the price of Bananas after a cyclone
It's the colour of his boots
It's the ball
It's the refs
It's the vibe
It's the media putting big wraps on him too early
It's his carspot at training
It's single mums
It's the phase of the moon
It's Demons
It's the Devil

3 try assists,
C'mon Lukey boy you can do better mate.

Is there a halfback under more pressure in 2021?
 
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297696) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297694) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297681) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297626) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297620) said:
What I would like to see in his game , is a little more of opportunism as we saw when kicking that FG to give his side a win

A number have made the point that the service to Brooks last year contributed to his disappointing season.

I think that the FG you refer to is an example of what Brooks can do with good service. The pass from Liddle was perfection. I came to Brooks so quickly and was so perfectly placed that he had plenty of time to nail it. Which he did with aplomb.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Liddle and Brooks combine this year. If the forwards can get some quick PTBs, then both will be in for a big year.

Liddle and Brooks have ALWAYS combined well. Given they have trained together now for 4 odd years you'd expect that but Liddles deceptively quick feet to scoop the ball off the ground, draw the markers in and get the forwards running full pelt can't be underestimated. This in turn puts opposition defense on the back foot just by certain little things due to liddles speed out of the ruck.
It also allows Brooks to run with freedom the next play.

Honestly Liddle reminds me of a young Farah it's just a shame he's had such an interupted career

And Grant wasn't doing this last season?

Brooks was playing off the back of arguably the best 9 the game has seen in quite a while, the kid is no joke, destroyed NSW in his origin debut.
And yet Brooks only managed 3 try assists.

Is Liddle better than Grant?

I don't understand how you got that in your head. I'm saying Liddles attributes contribute to better game play by Brooks, because they have known each other longer.

Grant is a brilliant player but we were miles away from making the 8 let's be honest, Id rather a team of performers than just a couple of stand outs, wouldn't you?

So you think Liddle will make Brooks a better player than Grant could?

It's always 'someone else' that is going to improve Brooks, have you noticed the theme yet?

I just don't know what you're trying to say, that's why I'm asking.
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297629) said:
@cktiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297627) said:
Has there ever been a player given so many excuses for under performing as Brooks?
He's got talent but obviously not much nous.
Keep taking the wrong options this year and he'll be saying goodbye.
Looks like we might finally have a younger halfback to put some pressure on him.

He hasnt under performed though !!! He had 8 bad games , and the knives came out , after winning our player of the year and dally m the 2 years prior. It’s more a reflection on you , in your expectations . They’re unrealistic to the max .

Is 3 try assists good enough to be playing halfback in the NRL?

Yes or No
 
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297699) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297696) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297694) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297681) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297626) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297620) said:
What I would like to see in his game , is a little more of opportunism as we saw when kicking that FG to give his side a win

A number have made the point that the service to Brooks last year contributed to his disappointing season.

I think that the FG you refer to is an example of what Brooks can do with good service. The pass from Liddle was perfection. I came to Brooks so quickly and was so perfectly placed that he had plenty of time to nail it. Which he did with aplomb.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Liddle and Brooks combine this year. If the forwards can get some quick PTBs, then both will be in for a big year.

Liddle and Brooks have ALWAYS combined well. Given they have trained together now for 4 odd years you'd expect that but Liddles deceptively quick feet to scoop the ball off the ground, draw the markers in and get the forwards running full pelt can't be underestimated. This in turn puts opposition defense on the back foot just by certain little things due to liddles speed out of the ruck.
It also allows Brooks to run with freedom the next play.

Honestly Liddle reminds me of a young Farah it's just a shame he's had such an interupted career

And Grant wasn't doing this last season?

Brooks was playing off the back of arguably the best 9 the game has seen in quite a while, the kid is no joke, destroyed NSW in his origin debut.
And yet Brooks only managed 3 try assists.

Is Liddle better than Grant?

I don't understand how you got that in your head. I'm saying Liddles attributes contribute to better game play by Brooks, because they have known each other longer.

Grant is a brilliant player but we were miles away from making the 8 let's be honest, Id rather a team of performers than just a couple of stand outs, wouldn't you?

So you think Liddle will make Brooks a better player than Grant could?

It's always 'someone else' that is going to improve Brooks, have you noticed the theme yet?

I just don't know what you're trying to say, that's why I'm asking.


I'm saying they play a different style of dummy half mate. And Brooks is much more accustomed to Liddle's style.

Do you honestly think Damien Cook and Cameron Smith's style of play is the same? no. That's what i'm trying to say with Liddle and Grant
 
@tigerbuck63 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297690) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297665) said:
@sleeve said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297551) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297503) said:
Brooks had 3 !!!!! try assists last year.

Yes 3

Yeah! Brilliant observation No go forward,no attacking FB. A DH that fed one side,a backline that was slow and never beat a man one on one,and a 5/8 that at times showed skill but could not tackle.JC himself would have thrown his hands up.What about the other 16 players that took the field ?

C'mon, I could put more than 3 people over by flukes, stop the excuses, he's an underperformer.

Let's look at the try assists from the halfbacks of teams that finished below us last season.

Dragons - Hunt - 7
Manly - DCE - 20
Cowboys - Clifford - 5
Dogs - Lewis - 8
Broncos - Dearden - 3

Still want to make excuses that it was the rest of the teams fault that Brooks had 3 try assists?

(The same as the half of the wooden spooners)

Fogarty from the Titans came from Burleigh and got thrown into the NRL in Rd 3 and still got 10 try assists.

Drew Hutchison who only played 5 games got 2 try assists.

Flanigan who got the chop got 11 try assists.

Let's look at the top try assists for comparison.

Johnson - 23
DCE - 20
Cleary - 17
Williams - 15
Hughes - 15

Any more excuses?

Good stats relating to other teams.
Other factors need to consider are,
Brooks was dropped for a few games based upon form.
Benji factor demanding the ball.
Forwards not making meters.

Not making excuses for Brooks clean slate this year let's see how he performs has in the past needs to show that with an improved roster and no Benji can step up.
Let's hope he can we have invested lots of time & $.

He's a dud mate, the quicker we realise he's not going to take us deep into the semi finals or win us a comp the better.
 
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297700) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297629) said:
@cktiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297627) said:
Has there ever been a player given so many excuses for under performing as Brooks?
He's got talent but obviously not much nous.
Keep taking the wrong options this year and he'll be saying goodbye.
Looks like we might finally have a younger halfback to put some pressure on him.

He hasnt under performed though !!! He had 8 bad games , and the knives came out , after winning our player of the year and dally m the 2 years prior. It’s more a reflection on you , in your expectations . They’re unrealistic to the max .

Is 3 try assists good enough to be playing halfback in the NRL?

Yes or No

Yes. Teams that depend on the final pass from only one player get servely out played when they are completely relied upon.
Use the Cowboys as an example.
I’m not going to say anymore other than 2015 may have been Thurstons year. But it was also the 3rd or 4th year from when the cowboys finally put together a ‘Complete’ team that wasn’t dependant on one player.
 
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297701) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297699) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297696) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297694) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297681) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297626) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297620) said:
What I would like to see in his game , is a little more of opportunism as we saw when kicking that FG to give his side a win

A number have made the point that the service to Brooks last year contributed to his disappointing season.

I think that the FG you refer to is an example of what Brooks can do with good service. The pass from Liddle was perfection. I came to Brooks so quickly and was so perfectly placed that he had plenty of time to nail it. Which he did with aplomb.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Liddle and Brooks combine this year. If the forwards can get some quick PTBs, then both will be in for a big year.

Liddle and Brooks have ALWAYS combined well. Given they have trained together now for 4 odd years you'd expect that but Liddles deceptively quick feet to scoop the ball off the ground, draw the markers in and get the forwards running full pelt can't be underestimated. This in turn puts opposition defense on the back foot just by certain little things due to liddles speed out of the ruck.
It also allows Brooks to run with freedom the next play.

Honestly Liddle reminds me of a young Farah it's just a shame he's had such an interupted career

And Grant wasn't doing this last season?

Brooks was playing off the back of arguably the best 9 the game has seen in quite a while, the kid is no joke, destroyed NSW in his origin debut.
And yet Brooks only managed 3 try assists.

Is Liddle better than Grant?

I don't understand how you got that in your head. I'm saying Liddles attributes contribute to better game play by Brooks, because they have known each other longer.

Grant is a brilliant player but we were miles away from making the 8 let's be honest, Id rather a team of performers than just a couple of stand outs, wouldn't you?

So you think Liddle will make Brooks a better player than Grant could?

It's always 'someone else' that is going to improve Brooks, have you noticed the theme yet?

I just don't know what you're trying to say, that's why I'm asking.


No I'm saying they play a different style of dummy half mate. And Brooks is much more accustomed to Liddle's style.

Do you honestly think Damien Cook and Cameron Smith's style of play is the same? no. That's what i'm trying to say with Liddle and Grant

So you think Brooks is more accustomed to Liddles style, but that "won't" make Brooks a better player? ?
 
@needaname said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297703) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297700) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297629) said:
@cktiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297627) said:
Has there ever been a player given so many excuses for under performing as Brooks?
He's got talent but obviously not much nous.
Keep taking the wrong options this year and he'll be saying goodbye.
Looks like we might finally have a younger halfback to put some pressure on him.

He hasnt under performed though !!! He had 8 bad games , and the knives came out , after winning our player of the year and dally m the 2 years prior. It’s more a reflection on you , in your expectations . They’re unrealistic to the max .

Is 3 try assists good enough to be playing halfback in the NRL?

Yes or No

Yes. Teams that depend on the final pass from only one player get servely out played when they are completely relied upon.
Use the Cowboys as an example.
I’m not going to say anymore other than 2015 may have been Thurstons year. But it was also the 3rd or 4th year from when the cowboys finally put together a ‘Complete’ team that wasn’t dependant on one player.

Wow, ok, you must be easily pleased, you're following the right club then.
I'm glad you're not the coach

I'm sure the coach is over the moon with his halfbacks 3 try assists for the season.
That's why he didn't drop him
 
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297702) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297690) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297665) said:
@sleeve said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297551) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297503) said:
Brooks had 3 !!!!! try assists last year.

Yes 3

Yeah! Brilliant observation No go forward,no attacking FB. A DH that fed one side,a backline that was slow and never beat a man one on one,and a 5/8 that at times showed skill but could not tackle.JC himself would have thrown his hands up.What about the other 16 players that took the field ?

C'mon, I could put more than 3 people over by flukes, stop the excuses, he's an underperformer.

Let's look at the try assists from the halfbacks of teams that finished below us last season.

Dragons - Hunt - 7
Manly - DCE - 20
Cowboys - Clifford - 5
Dogs - Lewis - 8
Broncos - Dearden - 3

Still want to make excuses that it was the rest of the teams fault that Brooks had 3 try assists?

(The same as the half of the wooden spooners)

Fogarty from the Titans came from Burleigh and got thrown into the NRL in Rd 3 and still got 10 try assists.

Drew Hutchison who only played 5 games got 2 try assists.

Flanigan who got the chop got 11 try assists.

Let's look at the top try assists for comparison.

Johnson - 23
DCE - 20
Cleary - 17
Williams - 15
Hughes - 15

Any more excuses?

Good stats relating to other teams.
Other factors need to consider are,
Brooks was dropped for a few games based upon form.
Benji factor demanding the ball.
Forwards not making meters.

Not making excuses for Brooks clean slate this year let's see how he performs has in the past needs to show that with an improved roster and no Benji can step up.
Let's hope he can we have invested lots of time & $.

He's a dud mate, the quicker we realise he's not going to take us deep into the semi finals or win us a comp the better.

Let's give him an opportunity this year to show either way, i don't think that a reasonable thing to ask.
 
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297704) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297701) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297699) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297696) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297694) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297681) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297626) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297620) said:
What I would like to see in his game , is a little more of opportunism as we saw when kicking that FG to give his side a win

A number have made the point that the service to Brooks last year contributed to his disappointing season.

I think that the FG you refer to is an example of what Brooks can do with good service. The pass from Liddle was perfection. I came to Brooks so quickly and was so perfectly placed that he had plenty of time to nail it. Which he did with aplomb.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Liddle and Brooks combine this year. If the forwards can get some quick PTBs, then both will be in for a big year.

Liddle and Brooks have ALWAYS combined well. Given they have trained together now for 4 odd years you'd expect that but Liddles deceptively quick feet to scoop the ball off the ground, draw the markers in and get the forwards running full pelt can't be underestimated. This in turn puts opposition defense on the back foot just by certain little things due to liddles speed out of the ruck.
It also allows Brooks to run with freedom the next play.

Honestly Liddle reminds me of a young Farah it's just a shame he's had such an interupted career

And Grant wasn't doing this last season?

Brooks was playing off the back of arguably the best 9 the game has seen in quite a while, the kid is no joke, destroyed NSW in his origin debut.
And yet Brooks only managed 3 try assists.

Is Liddle better than Grant?

I don't understand how you got that in your head. I'm saying Liddles attributes contribute to better game play by Brooks, because they have known each other longer.

Grant is a brilliant player but we were miles away from making the 8 let's be honest, Id rather a team of performers than just a couple of stand outs, wouldn't you?

So you think Liddle will make Brooks a better player than Grant could?

It's always 'someone else' that is going to improve Brooks, have you noticed the theme yet?

I just don't know what you're trying to say, that's why I'm asking.


No I'm saying they play a different style of dummy half mate. And Brooks is much more accustomed to Liddle's style.

Do you honestly think Damien Cook and Cameron Smith's style of play is the same? no. That's what i'm trying to say with Liddle and Grant

So you think Brooks is more accustomed to Liddles style, but that "won't" make Brooks a better player? ?


You're confusing yourself at this point bud.

Anyone with an ounce of footy IQ knows that Brooks combined better with Liddle compared to Grant. Somehow you turned it into me thinking Grant > Liddle which is not what I meant at all
 
@tigerbuck63 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297707) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297702) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297690) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297665) said:
@sleeve said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297551) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297503) said:
Brooks had 3 !!!!! try assists last year.

Yes 3

Yeah! Brilliant observation No go forward,no attacking FB. A DH that fed one side,a backline that was slow and never beat a man one on one,and a 5/8 that at times showed skill but could not tackle.JC himself would have thrown his hands up.What about the other 16 players that took the field ?

C'mon, I could put more than 3 people over by flukes, stop the excuses, he's an underperformer.

Let's look at the try assists from the halfbacks of teams that finished below us last season.

Dragons - Hunt - 7
Manly - DCE - 20
Cowboys - Clifford - 5
Dogs - Lewis - 8
Broncos - Dearden - 3

Still want to make excuses that it was the rest of the teams fault that Brooks had 3 try assists?

(The same as the half of the wooden spooners)

Fogarty from the Titans came from Burleigh and got thrown into the NRL in Rd 3 and still got 10 try assists.

Drew Hutchison who only played 5 games got 2 try assists.

Flanigan who got the chop got 11 try assists.

Let's look at the top try assists for comparison.

Johnson - 23
DCE - 20
Cleary - 17
Williams - 15
Hughes - 15

Any more excuses?

Good stats relating to other teams.
Other factors need to consider are,
Brooks was dropped for a few games based upon form.
Benji factor demanding the ball.
Forwards not making meters.

Not making excuses for Brooks clean slate this year let's see how he performs has in the past needs to show that with an improved roster and no Benji can step up.
Let's hope he can we have invested lots of time & $.

He's a dud mate, the quicker we realise he's not going to take us deep into the semi finals or win us a comp the better.

Let's give him an opportunity this year to show either way, i don't think that a reasonable thing to ask.

Put my nuts on it Brooks is shopped next season.

Bookmark this.
 
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297709) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297707) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297702) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297690) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297665) said:
@sleeve said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297551) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297503) said:
Brooks had 3 !!!!! try assists last year.

Yes 3

Yeah! Brilliant observation No go forward,no attacking FB. A DH that fed one side,a backline that was slow and never beat a man one on one,and a 5/8 that at times showed skill but could not tackle.JC himself would have thrown his hands up.What about the other 16 players that took the field ?

C'mon, I could put more than 3 people over by flukes, stop the excuses, he's an underperformer.

Let's look at the try assists from the halfbacks of teams that finished below us last season.

Dragons - Hunt - 7
Manly - DCE - 20
Cowboys - Clifford - 5
Dogs - Lewis - 8
Broncos - Dearden - 3

Still want to make excuses that it was the rest of the teams fault that Brooks had 3 try assists?

(The same as the half of the wooden spooners)

Fogarty from the Titans came from Burleigh and got thrown into the NRL in Rd 3 and still got 10 try assists.

Drew Hutchison who only played 5 games got 2 try assists.

Flanigan who got the chop got 11 try assists.

Let's look at the top try assists for comparison.

Johnson - 23
DCE - 20
Cleary - 17
Williams - 15
Hughes - 15

Any more excuses?

Good stats relating to other teams.
Other factors need to consider are,
Brooks was dropped for a few games based upon form.
Benji factor demanding the ball.
Forwards not making meters.

Not making excuses for Brooks clean slate this year let's see how he performs has in the past needs to show that with an improved roster and no Benji can step up.
Let's hope he can we have invested lots of time & $.

He's a dud mate, the quicker we realise he's not going to take us deep into the semi finals or win us a comp the better.

Let's give him an opportunity this year to show either way, i don't think that a reasonable thing to ask.

Put my nuts on it Brooks is shopped next season.

Bookmark this.

Bookmarked although i think your Nuts lol
 
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297694) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297681) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297626) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297620) said:
What I would like to see in his game , is a little more of opportunism as we saw when kicking that FG to give his side a win

A number have made the point that the service to Brooks last year contributed to his disappointing season.

I think that the FG you refer to is an example of what Brooks can do with good service. The pass from Liddle was perfection. I came to Brooks so quickly and was so perfectly placed that he had plenty of time to nail it. Which he did with aplomb.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Liddle and Brooks combine this year. If the forwards can get some quick PTBs, then both will be in for a big year.

Liddle and Brooks have ALWAYS combined well. Given they have trained together now for 4 odd years you'd expect that but Liddles deceptively quick feet to scoop the ball off the ground, draw the markers in and get the forwards running full pelt can't be underestimated. This in turn puts opposition defense on the back foot just by certain little things due to liddles speed out of the ruck.
It also allows Brooks to run with freedom the next play.

Honestly Liddle reminds me of a young Farah it's just a shame he's had such an interupted career

And Grant wasn't doing this last season?

Brooks was playing off the back of arguably the best 9 the game has seen in quite a while, the kid is no joke, destroyed NSW in his origin debut.
And yet Brooks only managed 3 try assists.

Is Liddle better than Grant?

NSW was destroyed by the old mate Penrith connection of bare foot Freddy and Alexander the greats big heads and Teddys injury.Destroyed ? Grant was good and gives 100% but i think he is a touch overated.This year will tell.
 
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297708) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297704) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297701) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297699) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297696) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297694) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297681) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297626) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297620) said:
What I would like to see in his game , is a little more of opportunism as we saw when kicking that FG to give his side a win

A number have made the point that the service to Brooks last year contributed to his disappointing season.

I think that the FG you refer to is an example of what Brooks can do with good service. The pass from Liddle was perfection. I came to Brooks so quickly and was so perfectly placed that he had plenty of time to nail it. Which he did with aplomb.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Liddle and Brooks combine this year. If the forwards can get some quick PTBs, then both will be in for a big year.

Liddle and Brooks have ALWAYS combined well. Given they have trained together now for 4 odd years you'd expect that but Liddles deceptively quick feet to scoop the ball off the ground, draw the markers in and get the forwards running full pelt can't be underestimated. This in turn puts opposition defense on the back foot just by certain little things due to liddles speed out of the ruck.
It also allows Brooks to run with freedom the next play.

Honestly Liddle reminds me of a young Farah it's just a shame he's had such an interupted career

And Grant wasn't doing this last season?

Brooks was playing off the back of arguably the best 9 the game has seen in quite a while, the kid is no joke, destroyed NSW in his origin debut.
And yet Brooks only managed 3 try assists.

Is Liddle better than Grant?

I don't understand how you got that in your head. I'm saying Liddles attributes contribute to better game play by Brooks, because they have known each other longer.

Grant is a brilliant player but we were miles away from making the 8 let's be honest, Id rather a team of performers than just a couple of stand outs, wouldn't you?

So you think Liddle will make Brooks a better player than Grant could?

It's always 'someone else' that is going to improve Brooks, have you noticed the theme yet?

I just don't know what you're trying to say, that's why I'm asking.


No I'm saying they play a different style of dummy half mate. And Brooks is much more accustomed to Liddle's style.

Do you honestly think Damien Cook and Cameron Smith's style of play is the same? no. That's what i'm trying to say with Liddle and Grant

So you think Brooks is more accustomed to Liddles style, but that "won't" make Brooks a better player? ?


You're confusing yourself at this point bud.

Anyone with an ounce of footy IQ knows that Brooks combined better with Liddle compared to Grant. Somehow you turned it into me thinking Grant Liddle which is not what I meant at all

Just answer the question, it's a yes or no answer.

I asked if you think Liddle would make Brooks a better player than Grant could?

And you said "No" Brooks is accustomed better to Liddles style.

So I asked
So you think Brooks is accustomed better to Liddles style, but that won't make him a better player?

Maybe I'll try again
Do you think Brooks will be a better player with Liddle at 9 than he was with Grant at 9?


C'mon, let's clear this up with a simple Yes or No
 
@sleeve said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297711) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297694) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297681) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297626) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297620) said:
What I would like to see in his game , is a little more of opportunism as we saw when kicking that FG to give his side a win

A number have made the point that the service to Brooks last year contributed to his disappointing season.

I think that the FG you refer to is an example of what Brooks can do with good service. The pass from Liddle was perfection. I came to Brooks so quickly and was so perfectly placed that he had plenty of time to nail it. Which he did with aplomb.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Liddle and Brooks combine this year. If the forwards can get some quick PTBs, then both will be in for a big year.

Liddle and Brooks have ALWAYS combined well. Given they have trained together now for 4 odd years you'd expect that but Liddles deceptively quick feet to scoop the ball off the ground, draw the markers in and get the forwards running full pelt can't be underestimated. This in turn puts opposition defense on the back foot just by certain little things due to liddles speed out of the ruck.
It also allows Brooks to run with freedom the next play.

Honestly Liddle reminds me of a young Farah it's just a shame he's had such an interupted career

And Grant wasn't doing this last season?

Brooks was playing off the back of arguably the best 9 the game has seen in quite a while, the kid is no joke, destroyed NSW in his origin debut.
And yet Brooks only managed 3 try assists.

Is Liddle better than Grant?

NSW was destroyed by the old mate Penrith connection of bare foot Freddy and Alexander the greats big heads and Teddys injury.Destroyed ? Grant was good and gives 100% but i think he is a touch overated.This year will tell.

Watch the game again, when Grant came on NSW couldn't handle him.

He's the real deal trust me.
 
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297699) said:
So you think Liddle will make Brooks a better player than Grant could?

As a matter of fact I do.

As good as Grant is, Liddle has a better pass off the ground and as long as Liddle can stay on the paddock I would expect Luke to benefit from that.

But I think that is only the start.

If the forwards can get a bit of a roll on I can see Luke having a pretty respectable season.
 
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297712) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297708) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297704) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297701) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297699) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297696) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297694) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297681) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297626) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297620) said:
What I would like to see in his game , is a little more of opportunism as we saw when kicking that FG to give his side a win

A number have made the point that the service to Brooks last year contributed to his disappointing season.

I think that the FG you refer to is an example of what Brooks can do with good service. The pass from Liddle was perfection. I came to Brooks so quickly and was so perfectly placed that he had plenty of time to nail it. Which he did with aplomb.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Liddle and Brooks combine this year. If the forwards can get some quick PTBs, then both will be in for a big year.

Liddle and Brooks have ALWAYS combined well. Given they have trained together now for 4 odd years you'd expect that but Liddles deceptively quick feet to scoop the ball off the ground, draw the markers in and get the forwards running full pelt can't be underestimated. This in turn puts opposition defense on the back foot just by certain little things due to liddles speed out of the ruck.
It also allows Brooks to run with freedom the next play.

Honestly Liddle reminds me of a young Farah it's just a shame he's had such an interupted career

And Grant wasn't doing this last season?

Brooks was playing off the back of arguably the best 9 the game has seen in quite a while, the kid is no joke, destroyed NSW in his origin debut.
And yet Brooks only managed 3 try assists.

Is Liddle better than Grant?

I don't understand how you got that in your head. I'm saying Liddles attributes contribute to better game play by Brooks, because they have known each other longer.

Grant is a brilliant player but we were miles away from making the 8 let's be honest, Id rather a team of performers than just a couple of stand outs, wouldn't you?

So you think Liddle will make Brooks a better player than Grant could?

It's always 'someone else' that is going to improve Brooks, have you noticed the theme yet?

I just don't know what you're trying to say, that's why I'm asking.


No I'm saying they play a different style of dummy half mate. And Brooks is much more accustomed to Liddle's style.

Do you honestly think Damien Cook and Cameron Smith's style of play is the same? no. That's what i'm trying to say with Liddle and Grant

So you think Brooks is more accustomed to Liddles style, but that "won't" make Brooks a better player? ?


You're confusing yourself at this point bud.

Anyone with an ounce of footy IQ knows that Brooks combined better with Liddle compared to Grant. Somehow you turned it into me thinking Grant Liddle which is not what I meant at all

Just answer the question, it's a yes or no answer.

I asked if you think Liddle would make Brooks a better player than Grant could?

And you said "No" Brooks is accustomed better to Liddles style.

So I asked
So you think Brooks is accustomed better to Liddles style, but that won't make him a better player?

Maybe I'll try again
Do you think Brooks will be a better player with Liddle at 9 than he was with Grant at 9?


C'mon, let's clear this up with a simple Yes or No

Just figure it out yourself dude. Otherwise you just come across as a troll lol. I don't think what I said was massively confusing
 
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297706) said:
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@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297629) said:
@cktiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297627) said:
Has there ever been a player given so many excuses for under performing as Brooks?
He's got talent but obviously not much nous.
Keep taking the wrong options this year and he'll be saying goodbye.
Looks like we might finally have a younger halfback to put some pressure on him.

He hasnt under performed though !!! He had 8 bad games , and the knives came out , after winning our player of the year and dally m the 2 years prior. It’s more a reflection on you , in your expectations . They’re unrealistic to the max .

Is 3 try assists good enough to be playing halfback in the NRL?

Yes or No

Yes. Teams that depend on the final pass from only one player get servely out played when they are completely relied upon.
Use the Cowboys as an example.
I’m not going to say anymore other than 2015 may have been Thurstons year. But it was also the 3rd or 4th year from when the cowboys finally put together a ‘Complete’ team that wasn’t dependant on one player.

Wow, ok, you must be easily pleased, you're following the right club then.
I'm glad you're not the coach

I'm sure the coach is over the moon with his halfbacks 3 try assists for the season.
That's why he didn't drop him

No mate I’m not easily pleased.
I’m a long time suffering WestsTigers fan that has been hoping for glory every since our 05 side was assembled.
Frustrated for the following 15 years watching our team try and circumnavigate 1 star player in Quentin Benji Marshall...
It’s no coincidence that we had our next best year from 05 in 10 and 11 when we had a much stronger forward pack and some speed in our backs.
Do you remember that player Lote Tuqiri? He was on the back of plenty of well orchestrated backline plays involving the whole team.
Not to mention that Yorky Bloke Ellis.
Let’s not forget how great Robert Liu looked during those two seasons also.
 
@sleeve said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297711) said:
@hangonaminute said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297694) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297681) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297626) said:
@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1297620) said:
What I would like to see in his game , is a little more of opportunism as we saw when kicking that FG to give his side a win

A number have made the point that the service to Brooks last year contributed to his disappointing season.

I think that the FG you refer to is an example of what Brooks can do with good service. The pass from Liddle was perfection. I came to Brooks so quickly and was so perfectly placed that he had plenty of time to nail it. Which he did with aplomb.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Liddle and Brooks combine this year. If the forwards can get some quick PTBs, then both will be in for a big year.

Liddle and Brooks have ALWAYS combined well. Given they have trained together now for 4 odd years you'd expect that but Liddles deceptively quick feet to scoop the ball off the ground, draw the markers in and get the forwards running full pelt can't be underestimated. This in turn puts opposition defense on the back foot just by certain little things due to liddles speed out of the ruck.
It also allows Brooks to run with freedom the next play.

Honestly Liddle reminds me of a young Farah it's just a shame he's had such an interupted career

And Grant wasn't doing this last season?

Brooks was playing off the back of arguably the best 9 the game has seen in quite a while, the kid is no joke, destroyed NSW in his origin debut.
And yet Brooks only managed 3 try assists.

Is Liddle better than Grant?

NSW was destroyed by the old mate Penrith connection of bare foot Freddy and Alexander the greats big heads and Teddys injury.Destroyed ? Grant was good and gives 100% but i think he is a touch overated.This year will tell.

I think Grant will be very different at the Storm. I said last year, after the hype started building he was overplaying his hand significantly. I think this year he will need to fit his game into Melbourne's structure.
 
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