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A couple were actually closer to the line and yet still some that whinged about them being 10m out in past weeks still whine and say they should have been higher, even though the breeze would have risked 7 tackle sets and when he could hoist one high we got a result from it.

Those kicks were crap. Now we are looking at wind as a defense. More hot air!

Plus he backed up through the middle on the early tackles when Liddle had forwards to feed.

You are seriously clutching to find anything to defend the guy.

Plus he controlled play and created the space for the Garner and Nofoaluma tries.

No he did not. He just passed it and let Douehi make the play. Which is the best thing he can do btw. Because he sucks!

Plus he laid on kicks for two tries.
Average. So many crap kicks. So many!!!

Plus he did other good things, yet still got criticism for playing his role well.

No he didn’t. And Halfback isn’t a role player.
And he made so many mistakes, drops, crap pass selections, garbage kicks, not taking control.

But once again, I blame Madge and co for selecting him and putting false confidence in him.

What are you talking about ? None of what you said is intelligible at all .
“ He just passed it to douiehi” HES FIRST RECIEVER !!!! What do you think that actually means ??? God you say dumb stuff ! Seriously .
Also 2 try assists of kicks , multiple drop in the 10m line bombs for the defence to get up in the face of the catcher , any body saying that obviously didn’t watch the game or , in your case , have no idea .

Fairdinkum ?
Half the time he was running around in there 10 like a headless chook thinking what to do ?
Are you Mrs Brooks by any chance ?
 
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I would like for brooks to have more than one effective kick this week. Maybe force a dropout or simply just drop the high kick on the try line. Will go a big way to winning if we can force repeat sets and build pressure

Doueihis kicks are good but he can't be so reliant on them, eels quickly figured out the strategy was give it to Adam.

He’s played 150 games, surely it’s more than 2 effective kicks

2 effective kicks that lead to TRIES last 2 games will do every week..could have been 3 if Doueihi caught it when Fergo went on his gallop..


hmmmm. back to regular programming from Brooks

2 more this week..


good to see.. certainly sets the bar high doesn't he.

We need Alfie Longer to run the water for us if we want him to improve.

I know leading the NRL in TRY assists ..who'd of thought..

Tied with a guy who played 3 games and was injured in one of them.

Bradbury

Luia..?

Leary

Luia is equal..

Sam walker has 4 in 2 games. Brooks leading this now is like being the April premiers

Brooks’s problem is that he doesn’t offer anything in attack apart from some kicks.

He runs across field 5 meters away from the defensive line and passes to someone. His running game is supposed to be a strength, but he doesn’t use it well. He is not creative inside the 20m. He doesn’t make defenders engage him often enough.

Dig into the line, draw defenders pass.

His “game management” is ok, his defence is great. His long kicking is better, short kicking is not consistent. His ability to set players up and make defences look at him is non existent.

He’s not really the problem, but he’s also not really the answer.
 
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@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335268) said:
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@formerguest said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335234) said:
A couple were actually closer to the line and yet still some that whinged about them being 10m out in past weeks still whine and say they should have been higher, even though the breeze would have risked 7 tackle sets and when he could hoist one high we got a result from it.

Those kicks were crap. Now we are looking at wind as a defense. More hot air!

Plus he backed up through the middle on the early tackles when Liddle had forwards to feed.

You are seriously clutching to find anything to defend the guy.

Plus he controlled play and created the space for the Garner and Nofoaluma tries.

No he did not. He just passed it and let Douehi make the play. Which is the best thing he can do btw. Because he sucks!

Plus he laid on kicks for two tries.
Average. So many crap kicks. So many!!!

Plus he did other good things, yet still got criticism for playing his role well.

No he didn’t. And Halfback isn’t a role player.
And he made so many mistakes, drops, crap pass selections, garbage kicks, not taking control.

But once again, I blame Madge and co for selecting him and putting false confidence in him.

What are you talking about ? None of what you said is intelligible at all .
“ He just passed it to douiehi” HES FIRST RECIEVER !!!! What do you think that actually means ??? God you say dumb stuff ! Seriously .
Also 2 try assists of kicks , multiple drop in the 10m line bombs for the defence to get up in the face of the catcher , any body saying that obviously didn’t watch the game or , in your case , have no idea .

Fairdinkum ?
Half the time he was running around in there 10 like a headless chook thinking what to do ?
Are you Mrs Brooks by any chance ?

Not at all hobbo . I actually don’t care if we find a better half . Nor do I care if he plays an absolute shocker and you roast him . Like round 1 this year . But it’s bull crap to roast him for the last 3 weeks . ,
And it weakens your argument that you are being anything close to objective .how do you not see that ? The guy is doing his job , and along with Laurie , and Mika ( who I’ve been really really critical of ) and Uto , has been our best . You can sook, you can cry bull crap , you can say what you want , but to any metric that a half can measure himself in a losing team , he’s meeting it .

Last year , it was his stats are garbage , this year it’s his stats don’t matter . Seriously ?
You want to win , figure out the edge defence . And the clocking off for long periods of the game .
As I don’t know what that is .
I actually think Joe O playing edge in the first half killed us , because I felt he naturally compressed the defence , as he subconsciously is used to being in a certain spot . But it doesn’t stop AD getting burned or Jimmy or Nofa . But it does explain how easily they got on the outside .
 
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I would like for brooks to have more than one effective kick this week. Maybe force a dropout or simply just drop the high kick on the try line. Will go a big way to winning if we can force repeat sets and build pressure

Doueihis kicks are good but he can't be so reliant on them, eels quickly figured out the strategy was give it to Adam.

He’s played 150 games, surely it’s more than 2 effective kicks

2 effective kicks that lead to TRIES last 2 games will do every week..could have been 3 if Doueihi caught it when Fergo went on his gallop..


hmmmm. back to regular programming from Brooks

2 more this week..


good to see.. certainly sets the bar high doesn't he.

We need Alfie Longer to run the water for us if we want him to improve.

I know leading the NRL in TRY assists ..who'd of thought..

Tied with a guy who played 3 games and was injured in one of them.

Bradbury

Luia..?

Leary

Luia is equal..

Sam walker has 4 in 2 games. Brooks leading this now is like being the April premiers

Brooks’s problem is that he doesn’t offer anything in attack apart from some kicks.

He runs across field 5 meters away from the defensive line and passes to someone. His running game is supposed to be a strength, but he doesn’t use it well. He is not creative inside the 20m. He doesn’t make defenders engage him often enough.

Dig into the line, draw defenders pass.

His “game management” is ok, his defence is great. His long kicking is better, short kicking is not consistent. His ability to set players up and make defences look at him is non existent.

He’s not really the problem, but he’s also not really the answer.

That’s crap . He’s either getting the try assists or he’s not . He’s also high in the linebreak assists which defeats your arguement as well .

Our issue defence and defence alone . You want the team to win . They have to figure out how not to bleed 36 points a game . We save 1 of those tries and we win .
 
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I would like for brooks to have more than one effective kick this week. Maybe force a dropout or simply just drop the high kick on the try line. Will go a big way to winning if we can force repeat sets and build pressure

Doueihis kicks are good but he can't be so reliant on them, eels quickly figured out the strategy was give it to Adam.

He’s played 150 games, surely it’s more than 2 effective kicks

2 effective kicks that lead to TRIES last 2 games will do every week..could have been 3 if Doueihi caught it when Fergo went on his gallop..


hmmmm. back to regular programming from Brooks

2 more this week..


good to see.. certainly sets the bar high doesn't he.

We need Alfie Longer to run the water for us if we want him to improve.

I know leading the NRL in TRY assists ..who'd of thought..

Tied with a guy who played 3 games and was injured in one of them.

Bradbury

Luia..?

Leary

Luia is equal..

Sam walker has 4 in 2 games. Brooks leading this now is like being the April premiers

Brooks’s problem is that he doesn’t offer anything in attack apart from some kicks.

He runs across field 5 meters away from the defensive line and passes to someone. His running game is supposed to be a strength, but he doesn’t use it well. He is not creative inside the 20m. He doesn’t make defenders engage him often enough.

Dig into the line, draw defenders pass.

His “game management” is ok, his defence is great. His long kicking is better, short kicking is not consistent. His ability to set players up and make defences look at him is non existent.

He’s not really the problem, but he’s also not really the answer.

That’s crap . He’s either getting the try assists or he’s not . He’s also high in the linebreak assists which defeats your arguement as well .

Our issue defence and defence alone . You want the team to win . They have to figure out how not to bleed 36 points a game . We save 1 of those tries and we win .

This is our problem. It is not like an aberration where one of the top sides has run up a scoreline against us, it is happening week in, week out. I think the Knights are the only team that has failed to score more than 26 points since the middle of last year, and that was only because they could not hold the ball.

I think we also show nothing in attack until we are a dozen points behind and chasing the game. This is another thing that brings me back to the coach. No attacking structure at all, and most of our points come from offloads and ad-lib football.
 
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I would like for brooks to have more than one effective kick this week. Maybe force a dropout or simply just drop the high kick on the try line. Will go a big way to winning if we can force repeat sets and build pressure

Doueihis kicks are good but he can't be so reliant on them, eels quickly figured out the strategy was give it to Adam.

He’s played 150 games, surely it’s more than 2 effective kicks

2 effective kicks that lead to TRIES last 2 games will do every week..could have been 3 if Doueihi caught it when Fergo went on his gallop..


hmmmm. back to regular programming from Brooks

2 more this week..


good to see.. certainly sets the bar high doesn't he.

We need Alfie Longer to run the water for us if we want him to improve.

I know leading the NRL in TRY assists ..who'd of thought..

Tied with a guy who played 3 games and was injured in one of them.

Bradbury

Luia..?

Leary

Luia is equal..

Sam walker has 4 in 2 games. Brooks leading this now is like being the April premiers

Brooks’s problem is that he doesn’t offer anything in attack apart from some kicks.

He runs across field 5 meters away from the defensive line and passes to someone. His running game is supposed to be a strength, but he doesn’t use it well. He is not creative inside the 20m. He doesn’t make defenders engage him often enough.

Dig into the line, draw defenders pass.

His “game management” is ok, his defence is great. His long kicking is better, short kicking is not consistent. His ability to set players up and make defences look at him is non existent.

He’s not really the problem, but he’s also not really the answer.

That’s crap . He’s either getting the try assists or he’s not . He’s also high in the linebreak assists which defeats your arguement as well .

Our issue defence and defence alone . You want the team to win . They have to figure out how not to bleed 36 points a game . We save 1 of those tries and we win .

He’s 16th in line break assists with 3. Sam walker is beating him in 2 games.

Not really the problem not really the answer
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335289) said:
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@formerguest said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335234) said:
A couple were actually closer to the line and yet still some that whinged about them being 10m out in past weeks still whine and say they should have been higher, even though the breeze would have risked 7 tackle sets and when he could hoist one high we got a result from it.

Those kicks were crap. Now we are looking at wind as a defense. More hot air!

Plus he backed up through the middle on the early tackles when Liddle had forwards to feed.

You are seriously clutching to find anything to defend the guy.

Plus he controlled play and created the space for the Garner and Nofoaluma tries.

No he did not. He just passed it and let Douehi make the play. Which is the best thing he can do btw. Because he sucks!

Plus he laid on kicks for two tries.
Average. So many crap kicks. So many!!!

Plus he did other good things, yet still got criticism for playing his role well.

No he didn’t. And Halfback isn’t a role player.
And he made so many mistakes, drops, crap pass selections, garbage kicks, not taking control.

But once again, I blame Madge and co for selecting him and putting false confidence in him.

What are you talking about ? None of what you said is intelligible at all .
“ He just passed it to douiehi” HES FIRST RECIEVER !!!! What do you think that actually means ??? God you say dumb stuff ! Seriously .
Also 2 try assists of kicks , multiple drop in the 10m line bombs for the defence to get up in the face of the catcher , any body saying that obviously didn’t watch the game or , in your case , have no idea .

Fairdinkum ?
Half the time he was running around in there 10 like a headless chook thinking what to do ?
Are you Mrs Brooks by any chance ?

Not at all hobbo . I actually don’t care if we find a better half . Nor do I care if he plays an absolute shocker and you roast him . Like round 1 this year . But it’s bull crap to roast him for the last 3 weeks . ,
And it weakens your argument that you are being anything close to objective .how do you not see that ? The guy is doing his job , and along with Laurie , and Mika ( who I’ve been really really critical of ) and Uto , has been our best . You can sook, you can cry bull crap , you can say what you want , but to any metric that a half can measure himself in a losing team , he’s meeting it .

Last year , it was his stats are garbage , this year it’s his stats don’t matter . Seriously ?
You want to win , figure out the edge defence . And the clocking off for long periods of the game .
As I don’t know what that is .
I actually think Joe O playing edge in the first half killed us , because I felt he naturally compressed the defence , as he subconsciously is used to being in a certain spot . But it doesn’t stop AD getting burned or Jimmy or Nofa . But it does explain how easily they got on the outside .

Please tell me the last time Brooks had a blinder while the rest of his mates were crap !
You can’t !
Reason is he’s not a competent half ..
Game over

Also ...A few weeks ago Brooks was icing the goal kicking duties ..
Where has that gone now ?
Doueihi already looks like he’s 65 having to do the lot once again .
 
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I would like for brooks to have more than one effective kick this week. Maybe force a dropout or simply just drop the high kick on the try line. Will go a big way to winning if we can force repeat sets and build pressure

Doueihis kicks are good but he can't be so reliant on them, eels quickly figured out the strategy was give it to Adam.

He’s played 150 games, surely it’s more than 2 effective kicks

2 effective kicks that lead to TRIES last 2 games will do every week..could have been 3 if Doueihi caught it when Fergo went on his gallop..


hmmmm. back to regular programming from Brooks

2 more this week..


good to see.. certainly sets the bar high doesn't he.

We need Alfie Longer to run the water for us if we want him to improve.

I know leading the NRL in TRY assists ..who'd of thought..

Tied with a guy who played 3 games and was injured in one of them.

Bradbury

Luia..?

Leary

Luia is equal..

Sam walker has 4 in 2 games. Brooks leading this now is like being the April premiers

Brooks’s problem is that he doesn’t offer anything in attack apart from some kicks.

He runs across field 5 meters away from the defensive line and passes to someone. His running game is supposed to be a strength, but he doesn’t use it well. He is not creative inside the 20m. He doesn’t make defenders engage him often enough.

Dig into the line, draw defenders pass.

His “game management” is ok, his defence is great. His long kicking is better, short kicking is not consistent. His ability to set players up and make defences look at him is non existent.

He’s not really the problem, but he’s also not really the answer.

That’s crap . He’s either getting the try assists or he’s not . He’s also high in the linebreak assists which defeats your arguement as well .

Our issue defence and defence alone . You want the team to win . They have to figure out how not to bleed 36 points a game . We save 1 of those tries and we win .

This is our problem. It is not like an aberration where one of the top sides has run up a scoreline against us, it is happening week in, week out. I think the Knights are the only team that has failed to score more than 26 points since the middle of last year, and that was only because they could not hold the ball.

I think we also show nothing in attack until we are a dozen points behind and chasing the game. This is another thing that brings me back to the coach. No attacking structure at all, and most of our points come from offloads and ad-lib football.

I think the game plan , is built around pressure , and tiring the defence until natural attrition

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@jc99 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1330418) said:
I would like for brooks to have more than one effective kick this week. Maybe force a dropout or simply just drop the high kick on the try line. Will go a big way to winning if we can force repeat sets and build pressure

Doueihis kicks are good but he can't be so reliant on them, eels quickly figured out the strategy was give it to Adam.

He’s played 150 games, surely it’s more than 2 effective kicks

2 effective kicks that lead to TRIES last 2 games will do every week..could have been 3 if Doueihi caught it when Fergo went on his gallop..


hmmmm. back to regular programming from Brooks

2 more this week..


good to see.. certainly sets the bar high doesn't he.

We need Alfie Longer to run the water for us if we want him to improve.

I know leading the NRL in TRY assists ..who'd of thought..

Tied with a guy who played 3 games and was injured in one of them.

Bradbury

Luia..?

Leary

Luia is equal..

Sam walker has 4 in 2 games. Brooks leading this now is like being the April premiers

Brooks’s problem is that he doesn’t offer anything in attack apart from some kicks.

He runs across field 5 meters away from the defensive line and passes to someone. His running game is supposed to be a strength, but he doesn’t use it well. He is not creative inside the 20m. He doesn’t make defenders engage him often enough.

Dig into the line, draw defenders pass.

His “game management” is ok, his defence is great. His long kicking is better, short kicking is not consistent. His ability to set players up and make defences look at him is non existent.

He’s not really the problem, but he’s also not really the answer.

That’s crap . He’s either getting the try assists or he’s not . He’s also high in the linebreak assists which defeats your arguement as well .

Our issue defence and defence alone . You want the team to win . They have to figure out how not to bleed 36 points a game . We save 1 of those tries and we win .

This is our problem. It is not like an aberration where one of the top sides has run up a scoreline against us, it is happening week in, week out. I think the Knights are the only team that has failed to score more than 26 points since the middle of last year, and that was only because they could not hold the ball.

I think we also show nothing in attack until we are a dozen points behind and chasing the game. This is another thing that brings me back to the coach. No attacking structure at all, and most of our points come from offloads and ad-lib football.

That’s where all the points for most teams are coming from . Even the cowboys yesterday . They scored at least 3 of thier tries off ad lib , Johnny on the spot type stuff . Anticipation football .

Madge needs to get with the program IMO . The teams who build pressure , the knights and warriors for example , are getting lapped now , by the teams who play ad lib .

But the edges have to be better at making defensive reads . If he wants to keep Jimmy , he has to swap him and put him next to brooks . The reason BJ is no good next to him is he doesn’t have the speed to re engage after he’s beat on outside . JTJ does , if he tries hard enough .
 
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A couple were actually closer to the line and yet still some that whinged about them being 10m out in past weeks still whine and say they should have been higher, even though the breeze would have risked 7 tackle sets and when he could hoist one high we got a result from it.

Those kicks were crap. Now we are looking at wind as a defense. More hot air!

Plus he backed up through the middle on the early tackles when Liddle had forwards to feed.

You are seriously clutching to find anything to defend the guy.

Plus he controlled play and created the space for the Garner and Nofoaluma tries.

No he did not. He just passed it and let Douehi make the play. Which is the best thing he can do btw. Because he sucks!

Plus he laid on kicks for two tries.
Average. So many crap kicks. So many!!!

Plus he did other good things, yet still got criticism for playing his role well.

No he didn’t. And Halfback isn’t a role player.
And he made so many mistakes, drops, crap pass selections, garbage kicks, not taking control.

But once again, I blame Madge and co for selecting him and putting false confidence in him.

What are you talking about ? None of what you said is intelligible at all .
“ He just passed it to douiehi” HES FIRST RECIEVER !!!! What do you think that actually means ??? God you say dumb stuff ! Seriously .
Also 2 try assists of kicks , multiple drop in the 10m line bombs for the defence to get up in the face of the catcher , any body saying that obviously didn’t watch the game or , in your case , have no idea .

Fairdinkum ?
Half the time he was running around in there 10 like a headless chook thinking what to do ?
Are you Mrs Brooks by any chance ?

Not at all hobbo . I actually don’t care if we find a better half . Nor do I care if he plays an absolute shocker and you roast him . Like round 1 this year . But it’s bull crap to roast him for the last 3 weeks . ,
And it weakens your argument that you are being anything close to objective .how do you not see that ? The guy is doing his job , and along with Laurie , and Mika ( who I’ve been really really critical of ) and Uto , has been our best . You can sook, you can cry bull crap , you can say what you want , but to any metric that a half can measure himself in a losing team , he’s meeting it .

Last year , it was his stats are garbage , this year it’s his stats don’t matter . Seriously ?
You want to win , figure out the edge defence . And the clocking off for long periods of the game .
As I don’t know what that is .
I actually think Joe O playing edge in the first half killed us , because I felt he naturally compressed the defence , as he subconsciously is used to being in a certain spot . But it doesn’t stop AD getting burned or Jimmy or Nofa . But it does explain how easily they got on the outside .

Please tell me the last time Brooks had a blinder while the rest of his mates were crap !
You can’t !
Reason is he’s not a competent half ..
Game over

Also ...A few weeks ago Brooks was icing the goal kicking duties ..
Where has that gone now ?
Doueihi already looks like he’s 65 having to do the lot once again .

Brooks was our best out there on Sunday ! What are you talking about . Have a look at the stats , who lead the team in the comeback ? Oh man , you do my head in . I have no idea what game your watching .

I’ll go through it if you want . I haven’t re watched it , this is ? from memory .

First half ; stopped at least 2 line breaks from bad Luci reads .
1 try assists , 1 line break assist . He put Twal through ( might be 2 I don’t remember )
Bad - horrendous mid field grubber.

Second half - multiple line break and try assists . Kicked to land the ball consistently inside thier 10 . Didn’t kick it high , because the wind was outrageous .
Lead the team to the fight back .
Whole game - not 1 try scored down his edge .
Bad - dropped the ball at the end of the game with 10 seconds left .

That’s objective from memory . Show me what he did that wasn’t that , outside of “his kicks were crap” which is garbage mate , even if it was true , it offers nothing remotely other than the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon type defence of “wrong” ? Seriously man
 
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1334520) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1334477) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1334460) said:
The most depressing aspect of that loss is that we are stuck with this guy. Just can't see how we move him on.

I thought the most depressing thing about yesterday was our defense personally...

Yes it was.

But after the game the reality of his contract and recent contract extension sunk in.

No ..the most depressing thing was a bloke who would have been prepared to put his life on the line for this club watched from the expensive seats and watched around 13/14 blokes basically turn their toes up playing for / representing his legacy

On behalf of this abortion of a RL club ...I humbly apologize Tommy ...but then again you probably knew better
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335326) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1334520) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1334477) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1334460) said:
The most depressing aspect of that loss is that we are stuck with this guy. Just can't see how we move him on.

I thought the most depressing thing about yesterday was our defense personally...

Yes it was.

But after the game the reality of his contract and recent contract extension sunk in.

No ..the most depressing thing was a bloke who would have been prepared to put his life on the line for this club watched from the expensive seats and watched around 13/14 blokes basically turn their toes up playing for / representing his legacy

On behalf of this abortion of a RL club ...I humbly apologize Tommy ...but then again you probably knew better

Agreed.
 
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335320) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335305) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335289) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335277) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335268) said:
@bigsiro said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335246) said:
@formerguest said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335234) said:
A couple were actually closer to the line and yet still some that whinged about them being 10m out in past weeks still whine and say they should have been higher, even though the breeze would have risked 7 tackle sets and when he could hoist one high we got a result from it.

Those kicks were crap. Now we are looking at wind as a defense. More hot air!

Plus he backed up through the middle on the early tackles when Liddle had forwards to feed.

You are seriously clutching to find anything to defend the guy.

Plus he controlled play and created the space for the Garner and Nofoaluma tries.

No he did not. He just passed it and let Douehi make the play. Which is the best thing he can do btw. Because he sucks!

Plus he laid on kicks for two tries.
Average. So many crap kicks. So many!!!

Plus he did other good things, yet still got criticism for playing his role well.

No he didn’t. And Halfback isn’t a role player.
And he made so many mistakes, drops, crap pass selections, garbage kicks, not taking control.

But once again, I blame Madge and co for selecting him and putting false confidence in him.

What are you talking about ? None of what you said is intelligible at all .
“ He just passed it to douiehi” HES FIRST RECIEVER !!!! What do you think that actually means ??? God you say dumb stuff ! Seriously .
Also 2 try assists of kicks , multiple drop in the 10m line bombs for the defence to get up in the face of the catcher , any body saying that obviously didn’t watch the game or , in your case , have no idea .

Fairdinkum ?
Half the time he was running around in there 10 like a headless chook thinking what to do ?
Are you Mrs Brooks by any chance ?

Not at all hobbo . I actually don’t care if we find a better half . Nor do I care if he plays an absolute shocker and you roast him . Like round 1 this year . But it’s bull crap to roast him for the last 3 weeks . ,
And it weakens your argument that you are being anything close to objective .how do you not see that ? The guy is doing his job , and along with Laurie , and Mika ( who I’ve been really really critical of ) and Uto , has been our best . You can sook, you can cry bull crap , you can say what you want , but to any metric that a half can measure himself in a losing team , he’s meeting it .

Last year , it was his stats are garbage , this year it’s his stats don’t matter . Seriously ?
You want to win , figure out the edge defence . And the clocking off for long periods of the game .
As I don’t know what that is .
I actually think Joe O playing edge in the first half killed us , because I felt he naturally compressed the defence , as he subconsciously is used to being in a certain spot . But it doesn’t stop AD getting burned or Jimmy or Nofa . But it does explain how easily they got on the outside .

Please tell me the last time Brooks had a blinder while the rest of his mates were crap !
You can’t !
Reason is he’s not a competent half ..
Game over

Also ...A few weeks ago Brooks was icing the goal kicking duties ..
Where has that gone now ?
Doueihi already looks like he’s 65 having to do the lot once again .

Brooks was our best out there on Sunday ! What are you talking about . Have a look at the stats , who lead the team in the comeback ? Oh man , you do my head in . I have no idea what game your watching .

I’ll go through it if you want . I haven’t re watched it , this is ? from memory .

First half ; stopped at least 2 line breaks from bad Luci reads .
1 try assists , 1 line break assist . He put Twal through ( might be 2 I don’t remember )
Bad - horrendous mid field grubber.

Second half - multiple line break and try assists . Kicked to land the ball consistently inside thier 10 . Didn’t kick it high , because the wind was outrageous .
Lead the team to the fight back .
Whole game - not 1 try scored down his edge .
Bad - dropped the ball at the end of the game with 10 seconds left .

That’s objective from memory . Show me what he did that wasn’t that , outside of “his kicks were crap” which is garbage mate , even if it was true , it offers nothing remotely other than the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon type defence of “wrong” ? Seriously man

So now your telling me his kicks sucked because it was windy ?
Thanks for the laugh ?
 
@happy_tiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335326) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1334520) said:
@speed2burn said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1334477) said:
@the_patriot said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1334460) said:
The most depressing aspect of that loss is that we are stuck with this guy. Just can't see how we move him on.

I thought the most depressing thing about yesterday was our defense personally...

Yes it was.

But after the game the reality of his contract and recent contract extension sunk in.

No ..the most depressing thing was a bloke who would have been prepared to put his life on the line for this club watched from the expensive seats and watched around 13/14 blokes basically turn their toes up playing for / representing his legacy

On behalf of this abortion of a RL club ...I humbly apologize Tommy ...but then again you probably knew better

Yep happy . Disgraceful .
 
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335330) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335320) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335305) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335289) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335277) said:
@strongee said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335268) said:
@bigsiro said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335246) said:
@formerguest said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335234) said:
A couple were actually closer to the line and yet still some that whinged about them being 10m out in past weeks still whine and say they should have been higher, even though the breeze would have risked 7 tackle sets and when he could hoist one high we got a result from it.

Those kicks were crap. Now we are looking at wind as a defense. More hot air!

Plus he backed up through the middle on the early tackles when Liddle had forwards to feed.

You are seriously clutching to find anything to defend the guy.

Plus he controlled play and created the space for the Garner and Nofoaluma tries.

No he did not. He just passed it and let Douehi make the play. Which is the best thing he can do btw. Because he sucks!

Plus he laid on kicks for two tries.
Average. So many crap kicks. So many!!!

Plus he did other good things, yet still got criticism for playing his role well.

No he didn’t. And Halfback isn’t a role player.
And he made so many mistakes, drops, crap pass selections, garbage kicks, not taking control.

But once again, I blame Madge and co for selecting him and putting false confidence in him.

What are you talking about ? None of what you said is intelligible at all .
“ He just passed it to douiehi” HES FIRST RECIEVER !!!! What do you think that actually means ??? God you say dumb stuff ! Seriously .
Also 2 try assists of kicks , multiple drop in the 10m line bombs for the defence to get up in the face of the catcher , any body saying that obviously didn’t watch the game or , in your case , have no idea .

Fairdinkum ?
Half the time he was running around in there 10 like a headless chook thinking what to do ?
Are you Mrs Brooks by any chance ?

Not at all hobbo . I actually don’t care if we find a better half . Nor do I care if he plays an absolute shocker and you roast him . Like round 1 this year . But it’s bull crap to roast him for the last 3 weeks . ,
And it weakens your argument that you are being anything close to objective .how do you not see that ? The guy is doing his job , and along with Laurie , and Mika ( who I’ve been really really critical of ) and Uto , has been our best . You can sook, you can cry bull crap , you can say what you want , but to any metric that a half can measure himself in a losing team , he’s meeting it .

Last year , it was his stats are garbage , this year it’s his stats don’t matter . Seriously ?
You want to win , figure out the edge defence . And the clocking off for long periods of the game .
As I don’t know what that is .
I actually think Joe O playing edge in the first half killed us , because I felt he naturally compressed the defence , as he subconsciously is used to being in a certain spot . But it doesn’t stop AD getting burned or Jimmy or Nofa . But it does explain how easily they got on the outside .

Please tell me the last time Brooks had a blinder while the rest of his mates were crap !
You can’t !
Reason is he’s not a competent half ..
Game over

Also ...A few weeks ago Brooks was icing the goal kicking duties ..
Where has that gone now ?
Doueihi already looks like he’s 65 having to do the lot once again .

Brooks was our best out there on Sunday ! What are you talking about . Have a look at the stats , who lead the team in the comeback ? Oh man , you do my head in . I have no idea what game your watching .

I’ll go through it if you want . I haven’t re watched it , this is ? from memory .

First half ; stopped at least 2 line breaks from bad Luci reads .
1 try assists , 1 line break assist . He put Twal through ( might be 2 I don’t remember )
Bad - horrendous mid field grubber.

Second half - multiple line break and try assists . Kicked to land the ball consistently inside thier 10 . Didn’t kick it high , because the wind was outrageous .
Lead the team to the fight back .
Whole game - not 1 try scored down his edge .
Bad - dropped the ball at the end of the game with 10 seconds left .

That’s objective from memory . Show me what he did that wasn’t that , outside of “his kicks were crap” which is garbage mate , even if it was true , it offers nothing remotely other than the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon type defence of “wrong” ? Seriously man

So now your telling me his kicks sucked because it was windy ?
Thanks for the laugh ?

Honestly mate , you’re on something ? No I said he didn’t bomb the crap out of it , because he had his kicks landing where they wanted everytime . Who cares if there was a contest on the ball ? You can’t score off every set ? You know who says that ? Halves who know how to build pressure . What you didn’t notice the 80m sets the whole second half ? And the 5 tries we scored ?

And I don’t want to hear anything about the first half , because it’s hard to build pressure standing behind your goal posts
 
Doueihi has totally outplayed Brooks despite being four years younger and a lot less experienced.

It's time that the club does a bit of soul searching and owns up to getting it completely wrong on Brooks.
 
@papacito said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335381) said:
Doueihi has totally outplayed Brooks despite being four years younger and a lot less experienced.

It's time that the club does a bit of soul searching and owns up to getting it completely wrong on Brooks.

I'm not sure what game you watched but Brooks had a very good game.
 
Said last week Brooks is going nowhere ...if there was an option in reserve grade Brooks would be running around at Lidcombe oval .. No viable option Brooks is the first picked every week.
 
People can complain about Brooks as much as they like, some if it's justified and some of it isn't. At the end of the day if this side as a COLLLECTIVE cannot find it within them to generate some line speed in defence and use their shoulders for once to hurt the opposition, then this discussion is more of a sideshow to a much larger problem.

Defence wins matches and I don't have a problem with Brooks in this regard.
 
@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335431) said:
People can complain about Brooks as much as they like, some if it's justified and some of it isn't. At the end of the day if this side as a COLLLECTIVE cannot find it within them to generate some line speed in defence and use their shoulders for once to hurt the opposition, then this discussion is more of a sideshow to a much larger problem.

Defence wins matches and I don't have a problem with Brooks in this regard.

Our defensive line has just been so passive, it doesn't move up and just waits for the players to come to them.
 
@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1335431) said:
People can complain about Brooks as much as they like, some if it's justified and some of it isn't. At the end of the day if this side as a COLLLECTIVE cannot find it within them to generate some line speed in defence and use their shoulders for once to hurt the opposition, then this discussion is more of a sideshow to a much larger problem.

Defence wins matches and I don't have a problem with Brooks in this regard.

Well said


I thought the Taylor era was the pits regarding our defence , our 2021 D is seriously not much better
 
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