Magpie1969
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Has Brooks left the building yet. Raiders or Knights. Happy to drive him to either venues. He needs a fresh start and still believe 5/8 is his position.
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@magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498070) said:Has Brooks left the building yet. Raiders or Knights. Happy to drive him to either venues. He needs a fresh start and still believe 5/8 is his position.
@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498067) said:@gnr4life said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498044) said:@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498043) said:@earl said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498041) said:@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498039) said:They look at Brooks who got a massive extension on near enough to a million a year despite having never delivered anything close to below average NRL standard work
Is this true ? I have no idea how much he is on but I personally doubt he is on 700k. I thought his last contract was 500k.
His last extension was widely reported to have made him the clubs top earner above Moses M'Bye roughly 900k
No way is he on 900k
I honestly think he is closer to 500k than 900k.
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497969) said:@tigers_tale said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497949) said:@gnr4life said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497935) said:@avocadoontoast said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497932) said:@twentyforty said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497930) said:@mike said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497920) said:@lidcombe_magpie1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497867) said:@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497775) said:@jadtiger said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497772) said:@camel2281 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497765) said:More matches without a finals appearance than any player in history. Says it all really
That is far more likely on the club not the player.Brooks is not an ideal 7 but our failures are a combined CLUB/PLAYER failure not just him.
I never said they were solely on him. But he is an endemic part of the problem and the club persisting with him no matter how poorly he's performing sets a standard in the organisation that poor performance has no consequences. Instead he gets extension on contracts and is made the club's top earner. Moving Brooks on is a statement from the club saying that they want things to change. They want a different culture and they are going in a different direction.
Here is something to think about!
**Would you prefer Brooks or Adam Reynolds in your team**
Brooks and Adam Reynolds 2021 stats
Brooks Age 26 Reynolds Age 31
Brooks 2021 24 games Reynolds 25 games
Brooks Avg run 97m Reynolds 67m
Brooks Tackle efficiency 85.7 Reynolds 89.3
Brooks Line drop outs forced 13 Reynolds 9
Brooks Try assists 16 Reynolds 7
Brooks Line Breaks 10 Reynolds 10
Brooks Off Loads 25 Reynolds 9
Brooks Tackles made 456 Reynolds 359
Brooks Total all games 163 Reynolds 231
Brooks Total all tries 40 Reynolds 38
These are all NRL stats
In summary
Brooks gets more than double try assists
Forces more line drop outs
Runs more meters
Makes more tackles
And has more than 3 times more offloads
Ok he is not a leader but looking at the stats he is far better than Adam Reynolds
Not as good as Cleary, Hughes of DCE - but our team is no where as strong as theirs
BTW I am not Brooks "Fan Boy" but I do look at the stats in a non objective way
Context is king, without it stats are meaningless. I’d have Reynolds over Brooks every time. Reynolds knows how to win a game.
I’ll take Brooks over Reynolds.
The difference in the two halves is in the team’s they have. Not necessarily because of their quality, although it does have an effect, but because of stability and the bond of commonality. Before the whistle you need to look your teammates in the eye, the same as you do after full time.
Our boys change every week. Every week there’s a new kid to come and learn on your time.
Let’s see hoe Reynolds goes in 22 shall we?
Brooks problem isn’t skill, he just has no killer instinct, and thats got nothing to do with his teammates. Do you think Brooks makes that 2 point field goal Reynolds kicked against us? Not in a million years.
All good halfbacks can step up when it’s needed. Brooks doesn’t have that attribute.
Like I said in my last post though, he is not alone. There are at least 6 other halfbacks who couldn’t do what Reynolds does either. That isn’t a failing on Brooks. It just shows how good Reynolds is. FYI, I don’t think he will change the Broncos that dramatically. They still look pretty weak across the park. Outside or him, their spine sucks. So he’s going to be put to the test.
Against South's last year , do you think Reynolds could of done what brooks did, pick up the loose ball and run 100 metres to score a try, to win a game, and is still its debatable whether Burgess did get that ball down. Its not the first time Brooks has done something like this.
What are you on about? He picked up a ball and ran with no one chasing him. Yeah he’s fast but he’s not the winger so it shouldn’t be his main weapon. And it’s not debatable it was a try and was given, you can believe what you want about it but it won’t change the fact.
@innsaneink said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497917) said:@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497911) said:@cochise said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497906) said:@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497903) said:@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497895) said:It’s flogging a dead horse, but IMO Brooks would have been perfect alongside Benji in his prime.
He’s a supporting player that cannot dominate like DCE or Cleary. The problem is when we have average players around him, he looks average. He doesn’t have it between the ears to change a game plan that isn’t working, so we need a halves partner who can.
Im not having a go at you weststigerman but Im not sure if peoples memories change with time. My memory (as prone to failure as anyones) was that we were always screaming out for an "organising" half next to Benji so Benji could just "play his game". Brooks is not that organising half IMO.
I think he would have been fine playing between Benji and Robbie when they were both at their peaks. I think he would have fitted well into that 2009-2011 side, but we are just talking fantasy now.
true enough....Robert Lui looked a world beater at that time,
Is this what they call a segway.....?
Waiting... Waiting
@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498118) said:@innsaneink said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497917) said:@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497911) said:@cochise said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497906) said:@tiger5150 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497903) said:@weststigerman said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497895) said:It’s flogging a dead horse, but IMO Brooks would have been perfect alongside Benji in his prime.
He’s a supporting player that cannot dominate like DCE or Cleary. The problem is when we have average players around him, he looks average. He doesn’t have it between the ears to change a game plan that isn’t working, so we need a halves partner who can.
Im not having a go at you weststigerman but Im not sure if peoples memories change with time. My memory (as prone to failure as anyones) was that we were always screaming out for an "organising" half next to Benji so Benji could just "play his game". Brooks is not that organising half IMO.
I think he would have been fine playing between Benji and Robbie when they were both at their peaks. I think he would have fitted well into that 2009-2011 side, but we are just talking fantasy now.
true enough....Robert Lui looked a world beater at that time,
Is this what they call a segway.....?
Waiting... Waiting
Is that anything like a segue?
I thought about it but discretion is the better part of valour
@clontarfkid said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498187) said:@cochise said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498176) said:@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498175) said:@tiger-tragic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498171) said:And, while I'm at it, where has @Donk gone? It's classic clickbait behaviour; set up a scenario that suits your agenda/opinion and then when there's enough others sucked into commenting on the rubbish you've posted; discreetly let it run. He must be laughing his guts out somewhere.
It's Media Literacy 101; if you see @Donk post something, ignore it. Don't encourage him. Don't repsond. That's my humble advice.
If you have an issue with a particular post, please report it and it will be assessed. We've had so much bickering on here lately it's getting depressing and not what this forum is intended to be.
I get we have different opinions, if you don't agree with someone, say your piece respectfully and move on.
The bickering has really taken away the enjoyment of the forum, in saying that I haven't been immune to getting caught up myself. I think it is time for people to remember we all support the same team and cut the childish nonsense that has infected this place. I know that is what I will be trying to do moving forward.
Jeez...someone gave you a downvote for advocating a no bickering policy!!
Its a tough skool indeed...
@clontarfkid said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498187) said:@cochise said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498176) said:@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498175) said:@tiger-tragic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498171) said:And, while I'm at it, where has @Donk gone? It's classic clickbait behaviour; set up a scenario that suits your agenda/opinion and then when there's enough others sucked into commenting on the rubbish you've posted; discreetly let it run. He must be laughing his guts out somewhere.
It's Media Literacy 101; if you see @Donk post something, ignore it. Don't encourage him. Don't repsond. That's my humble advice.
If you have an issue with a particular post, please report it and it will be assessed. We've had so much bickering on here lately it's getting depressing and not what this forum is intended to be.
I get we have different opinions, if you don't agree with someone, say your piece respectfully and move on.
The bickering has really taken away the enjoyment of the forum, in saying that I haven't been immune to getting caught up myself. I think it is time for people to remember we all support the same team and cut the childish nonsense that has infected this place. I know that is what I will be trying to do moving forward.
Jeez...someone gave you a downvote for advocating a no bickering policy!!
Its a tough skool indeed...
@tiger-tragic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498169) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498037) said:@chicken_faced_killa said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498030) said:@pawsandclaws1 said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498027) said:@chicken_faced_killa said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498012) said:@gnr4life said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498008) said:@chicken_faced_killa said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498002) said:@gnr4life said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497990) said:@tigerbalm said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497983) said:@jirskyr said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497982) said:@leck said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1497774) said:Where there's smoke there's fire - Sheen's comments were simply a PR feel good smoke screen.
Brooks will be gone before the 2022 season.
So if Sheens said Brooks was definitely leaving... then he would definitely stay?
This feels like I'm talking to my kids, when they decide "it's opposites day". I don't think the club could have been any more emphatic.
Ivan's not leaving. He has a contract and will see it out.
The Garlic Sauce is not leaving, he can mow grass at LO.
Matterson is not leaving....but if he does Wests will get something.
Taylor has the full backing of the board
We have faith in madge, extended his contract....nek minut, Madge scrapes home and keeps his gig.
And so on
And so on
How many of those statements did Sheens make?
Is Sheens the top dog at the club now and whatever he says goes?
Of course. Who would outrank him?
The CEO and Chairman, if Madge doesn’t want a player but sheens does surely you go with the coach. I am sure Sheens has a fair bit of power but that doesn’t mean if he says something the opposite can’t happen.
Well Sheens has made it clear he wants Brooks. He also made reference to having known him for a long time. I look forward to his positive influence on Brooks and other players in the team.
I hope he does. I don’t have a strong opinion either way in the keep him or punt him debate but I hope the club does what is best for the team not get tied to statements made by any official.
My confidence in Sheens is that he has always been a student of the game and will have a gameplan prepared which will match the strengths of our players.
Except, he's not the NRL coach. Do you think his role will be to coach the side or coordinate the coaches? I think it is meant to be the latter.
@gnr4life said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498196) said:I take downvotes as a badge of honour.
@cochise said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498176) said:@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498175) said:@tiger-tragic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498171) said:And, while I'm at it, where has @Donk gone? It's classic clickbait behaviour; set up a scenario that suits your agenda/opinion and then when there's enough others sucked into commenting on the rubbish you've posted; discreetly let it run. He must be laughing his guts out somewhere.
It's Media Literacy 101; if you see @Donk post something, ignore it. Don't encourage him. Don't repsond. That's my humble advice.
If you have an issue with a particular post, please report it and it will be assessed. We've had so much bickering on here lately it's getting depressing and not what this forum is intended to be.
I get we have different opinions, if you don't agree with someone, say your piece respectfully and move on.
The bickering has really taken away the enjoyment of the forum, in saying that I haven't been immune to getting caught up myself. I think it is time for people to remember we all support the same team and cut the childish nonsense that has infected this place. I know that is what I will be trying to do moving forward.
@gnr4life said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498203) said:Getting downvotes doesn’t bother me one bit. I do wonder if people would be red thumb happy if neg votes weren’t anonymous though.
@gnr4life said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498203) said:Getting downvotes doesn’t bother me one bit. I do wonder if people would be red thumb happy if neg votes weren’t anonymous though.
@avocadoontoast said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498201) said:@cochise said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498176) said:@willow said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498175) said:@tiger-tragic said in [Luke Brooks](/post/1498171) said:And, while I'm at it, where has @Donk gone? It's classic clickbait behaviour; set up a scenario that suits your agenda/opinion and then when there's enough others sucked into commenting on the rubbish you've posted; discreetly let it run. He must be laughing his guts out somewhere.
It's Media Literacy 101; if you see @Donk post something, ignore it. Don't encourage him. Don't repsond. That's my humble advice.
If you have an issue with a particular post, please report it and it will be assessed. We've had so much bickering on here lately it's getting depressing and not what this forum is intended to be.
I get we have different opinions, if you don't agree with someone, say your piece respectfully and move on.
The bickering has really taken away the enjoyment of the forum, in saying that I haven't been immune to getting caught up myself. I think it is time for people to remember we all support the same team and cut the childish nonsense that has infected this place. I know that is what I will be trying to do moving forward.
Who downvoted this post? Show yourself.