OFFICIAL Luke Garner [Discussion]

[BAGNF05]

His biggest issue is size ...he can't hit blokes 1 on 1 and doesn't dint the line

His lines he was running have disappeared off the map as well

Another player whose strength has either disappeared or been taken away (coaching )

Plenty of small guys playing above their weight. It’s a character issue.

 

[happy_tiger]

His biggest issue is size ...he can't hit blokes 1 on 1 and doesn't dint the line

His lines he was running have disappeared off the map as well

Another player whose strength has either disappeared or been taken away (coaching )

Plenty of small guys playing above their weight. It’s a character issue.

But the blokes you speak of mostly have that smaller ,solider base ...... lower centre of gravity

 

[BAGNF05]

His biggest issue is size ...he can't hit blokes 1 on 1 and doesn't dint the line

His lines he was running have disappeared off the map as well

Another player whose strength has either disappeared or been taken away (coaching )

Plenty of small guys playing above their weight. It’s a character issue.

But the blokes you speak of mostly have that smaller ,solider base ...... lower centre of gravity

Body shape is one thing that makes RL special.
Many have overcome great physical deficiencies with the right attitude.

Watch Nathan Brown run the ball then watch Garner and consider one thing, which player wants it more?

 

[izotope]

His biggest issue is size ...he can't hit blokes 1 on 1 and doesn't dint the line

His lines he was running have disappeared off the map as well

Another player whose strength has either disappeared or been taken away (coaching )

Plenty of small guys playing above their weight. It’s a character issue.

But the blokes you speak of mostly have that smaller ,solider base ...... lower centre of gravity

Body shape is one thing that makes RL special.
Many have overcome great physical deficiencies with the right attitude.

Watch Nathan Brown run the ball then watch Garner and consider one thing, which player wants it more?

Seemed the issue for our team the whole first half

 

[BAGNF05]

His biggest issue is size ...he can't hit blokes 1 on 1 and doesn't dint the line

His lines he was running have disappeared off the map as well

Another player whose strength has either disappeared or been taken away (coaching )

Plenty of small guys playing above their weight. It’s a character issue.

But the blokes you speak of mostly have that smaller ,solider base ...... lower centre of gravity

Body shape is one thing that makes RL special.
Many have overcome great physical deficiencies with the right attitude.

Watch Nathan Brown run the ball then watch Garner and consider one thing, which player wants it more?

Seemed the issue for our team the whole first half

True we did look asleep. Big Stef tried hard when he got out there. AD and Brooks always try. DL too. JTJ is having a go. Luci is trying but his fitness is an issue.

 

[mike]

Moses drifted across field today and it was the backrower who should have smashed him...but Garner came weakly with an arm grab.

Garner slow off the line for another try.

Hit ups? Garner went for 55 m...least of any Tiger's forward except Twal, who basically matched him in 30 mins.

**Has anyone 'ever' seen Garner do a dirty hit up? A 'give me the ball, let me work here" hit up?**

Yet he plays 80 mins a week.

Some nice cover late, but your standard backrower could have done that. Garner is good for 3-4 bad plays a week and, again, has anyone ever seen him do a hard hit up when we are on the back foot? At the very most, he is a bench player. Really, he is a state cup player who covers for you a few games a year.

Fatally...he does not cover for his half also. Whoever he is paired with gets isolated way too often on the line.

Can anyone make a case for him? I feel like 3-4 players are holding us back right now. We are close to a good team, but carrying some liabilities. He is one of them.

That first try Moses ran across field and behind at least two of his own players. Should have been a penalty to Wests

Just watching the replay and he actually ran behind 3 of his own players. Nothing said about that.

 

[barra]

Haven't watched the game yet but just in the highlights Moses did that to Garner on two occasions. The first when he kicked to set up a try, he simply was too light-footed for Garner (and Twal) which is just going to happen with little guys against bigger guys. The two who should have smashed him IMO were Lucy and Brooks just before he put the kick in but they sat back.
The other was a poor attempt and Moses simply fended/bounced off him and went on to set something up.
He really does seem to have hit his ceiling with us unfortunately and his really good games have too many average ones between them.

 

[barra]

Moses drifted across field today and it was the backrower who should have smashed him...but Garner came weakly with an arm grab.

Garner slow off the line for another try.

Hit ups? Garner went for 55 m...least of any Tiger's forward except Twal, who basically matched him in 30 mins.

**Has anyone 'ever' seen Garner do a dirty hit up? A 'give me the ball, let me work here" hit up?**

Yet he plays 80 mins a week.

Some nice cover late, but your standard backrower could have done that. Garner is good for 3-4 bad plays a week and, again, has anyone ever seen him do a hard hit up when we are on the back foot? At the very most, he is a bench player. Really, he is a state cup player who covers for you a few games a year.

Fatally...he does not cover for his half also. Whoever he is paired with gets isolated way too often on the line.

Can anyone make a case for him? I feel like 3-4 players are holding us back right now. We are close to a good team, but carrying some liabilities. He is one of them.

That first try Moses ran across field and behind at least two of his own players. Should have been a penalty to Wests

Just watching the replay and he actually ran behind 3 of his own players. Nothing said about that.

We probably just weren't smart enough to push up and make it look like a shepherd...

 

[jadtiger]

Moses drifted across field today and it was the backrower who should have smashed him...but Garner came weakly with an arm grab.

Garner slow off the line for another try.

Hit ups? Garner went for 55 m...least of any Tiger's forward except Twal, who basically matched him in 30 mins.

**Has anyone 'ever' seen Garner do a dirty hit up? A 'give me the ball, let me work here" hit up?**

Yet he plays 80 mins a week.

Some nice cover late, but your standard backrower could have done that. Garner is good for 3-4 bad plays a week and, again, has anyone ever seen him do a hard hit up when we are on the back foot? At the very most, he is a bench player. Really, he is a state cup player who covers for you a few games a year.

Fatally...he does not cover for his half also. Whoever he is paired with gets isolated way too often on the line.

Can anyone make a case for him? I feel like 3-4 players are holding us back right now. We are close to a good team, but carrying some liabilities. He is one of them.

That first try Moses ran across field and behind at least two of his own players. Should have been a penalty to Wests

Just watching the replay and he actually ran behind 3 of his own players. Nothing said about that.

We probably just weren't smart enough to push up and make it look like a shepherd...

I reckon if we had used the same move Klein would have blown his whistle and penalised us immediately .The only ref i have time for is Cechin at least he seems to be impartial

 

[mike]

Moses drifted across field today and it was the backrower who should have smashed him...but Garner came weakly with an arm grab.

Garner slow off the line for another try.

Hit ups? Garner went for 55 m...least of any Tiger's forward except Twal, who basically matched him in 30 mins.

**Has anyone 'ever' seen Garner do a dirty hit up? A 'give me the ball, let me work here" hit up?**

Yet he plays 80 mins a week.

Some nice cover late, but your standard backrower could have done that. Garner is good for 3-4 bad plays a week and, again, has anyone ever seen him do a hard hit up when we are on the back foot? At the very most, he is a bench player. Really, he is a state cup player who covers for you a few games a year.

Fatally...he does not cover for his half also. Whoever he is paired with gets isolated way too often on the line.

Can anyone make a case for him? I feel like 3-4 players are holding us back right now. We are close to a good team, but carrying some liabilities. He is one of them.

That first try Moses ran across field and behind at least two of his own players. Should have been a penalty to Wests

Just watching the replay and he actually ran behind 3 of his own players. Nothing said about that.

We probably just weren't smart enough to push up and make it look like a shepherd...

The first one behind Gutherson they were.

 

[Madge]

Was impressed with Amone today will be in contention in a couple of weeks I say .

He'll need more than that I suspect.

Apparently Madge has his eye on him for the game against his old club.

 

[kiwitiger]

According to someone on this forum after the manly trial " he reminds me of a young Steve Menzies". Doesn't matter how bad my day is that will always make me laugh

 

[Tigerboy]

a shot from the heart

Give his jersey to someone who wants it

Well you seem pretty keen. How about you get out there and do better? I'm sure you're not a "muppet".

IMO, Garner has been solid this season.

I’m not making huge money pretending to be a pro athlete either

6 runs in 80 mins, sadly I could do better than that.

Well man, put your credentials out there for the talent scouts to see. I'm sure you'll be snapped up given you can make more than 6 runs (who knows what that means ....does it include the ones going backwards?? ...to the fridge at half-time??)

And, of course, someone like you so skilled in rugby league, doesn't need to mention how ferocious and effective a defender you'll be when the big boppers are running at you.

I expect an announcment this week from the club telling us that BAGNF05 has been signed. I can't wait.

Anyone got Madge’s digits? A package deal??

 

[JC99]

He's been doing fine.... defence has been good since round 1, he's not got the build to be doing many dirty hit ups that's not his strength. Best option we've got at the moment

 

[jirskyr]

He's only keeping Blore's spot warm, just a few more weeks to go.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Against the Eels he had his best game for a while. His defence was the best its been.
He needs the ball to make any dents in the line.
If AD can use him with Laurie/Jet outside that right side could be potent.

 

[TigerBlood93]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

 

[BAGNF05]

I think he’s been strong in defence! Every now and then he bends someone in defence, just needs to do it more. I also agree he’s not the type to do dirty hit ups out of trouble. But I think we can use him more in attacking. Use him like a kikau is close to the line! He can break a tackle. Hopefully this comes the more our combinations play together, I feel like we don’t use our edges as well either.

Comparing Garner and Kikau 🤣

 

[BAGNF05]

His biggest issue is size ...he can't hit blokes 1 on 1 and doesn't dint the line

His lines he was running have disappeared off the map as well

Another player whose strength has either disappeared or been taken away (coaching )

Plenty of small guys playing above their weight. It’s a character issue.

I think your comments are a character issue. One we could do without.

If you read all my comments you’ll notice I’ve been complimentary to those players having a go. That’s what happens on a RL forum. You’re also free to not read my comments or block them. All the best.

 

[BAGNF05]

He's been doing fine.... defence has been good since round 1, he's not got the build to be doing many dirty hit ups that's not his strength. Best option we've got at the moment

Our edges are a mess mate and the glue that holds an edge together is a good defensive second rower. One that intimidates people.

Edit: Consider this, in the 2010 GF Jamie Soward was asked to make a total of 7 tackles. Defending next to Beau Scott.

In 3 weeks, Adam Doueihi has been asked to make 69 tackles. Defending next to our man Garner.

In week one for Mbye it was 26 tackles.