OFFICIAL Luke Garner [Discussion]

[avocadoontoast]

Wouldn't care if he went but unless we sign a couple second rowers next season it would be silly to let him go.

Given we're possibly going into next season with the ESL duo as our only signings, it's unlikely we'll be playing finals anyway. If we can get him off our books, I say do it, give Tuilagi a run. Garner isn't the sort of player that will take us to the promised land.

 

[TrueTiger]

Wouldn't care if he went but unless we sign a couple second rowers next season it would be silly to let him go.

Given we're possibly going into next season with the ESL duo as our only signings, it's unlikely we'll be playing finals anyway. If we can get him off our books, I say do it, give Tuilagi a run. Garner isn't the sort of player that will take us to the promised land.

Either are some of the rest of our squad...but having said that we must persevere with the young guys who are developing...I know you and others have heard it before but it takes time to mould a winning team all on the same page...

 

[avocadoontoast]

Wouldn't care if he went but unless we sign a couple second rowers next season it would be silly to let him go.

Given we're possibly going into next season with the ESL duo as our only signings, it's unlikely we'll be playing finals anyway. If we can get him off our books, I say do it, give Tuilagi a run. Garner isn't the sort of player that will take us to the promised land.

Either are some of the rest of our squad...but having said that we must persevere with the young guys who are developing...I know you and others have heard it before but it takes time to mould a winning team all on the same page...

And then they should be moved on too. I'm resigned to the fact we aren't going to sign any desirable established players, so let's just spend the cap on the best young players out there and hope they click. It might take time but who cares. AD, Laurie, Stefano have been our best players this season (whilst Brooks has also been good the last month or so). Nofo, Mbye, Tamou are the ones that are disappointing - get rid of them. I wouldn't re-sign Luc either.

 

[TrueTiger]

Wouldn't care if he went but unless we sign a couple second rowers next season it would be silly to let him go.

Given we're possibly going into next season with the ESL duo as our only signings, it's unlikely we'll be playing finals anyway. If we can get him off our books, I say do it, give Tuilagi a run. Garner isn't the sort of player that will take us to the promised land.

Either are some of the rest of our squad...but having said that we must persevere with the young guys who are developing...I know you and others have heard it before but it takes time to mould a winning team all on the same page...

And then they should be moved on too. I'm resigned to the fact we aren't going to sign any desirable established players, so let's just spend the cap on the best young players out there and hope they click. It might take time but who cares. AD, Laurie, Stefano have been our best players this season (whilst Brooks has also been good the last month or so). Nofo, Mbye, Tamou are the ones that are disappointing - get rid of them. I wouldn't re-sign Luc either.

Fair points Avo....we just have to weather the storm until things settle...I honestly think we will see really good results during and after 2022...

 

[avocadoontoast]

Wouldn't care if he went but unless we sign a couple second rowers next season it would be silly to let him go.

Given we're possibly going into next season with the ESL duo as our only signings, it's unlikely we'll be playing finals anyway. If we can get him off our books, I say do it, give Tuilagi a run. Garner isn't the sort of player that will take us to the promised land.

Either are some of the rest of our squad...but having said that we must persevere with the young guys who are developing...I know you and others have heard it before but it takes time to mould a winning team all on the same page...

And then they should be moved on too. I'm resigned to the fact we aren't going to sign any desirable established players, so let's just spend the cap on the best young players out there and hope they click. It might take time but who cares. AD, Laurie, Stefano have been our best players this season (whilst Brooks has also been good the last month or so). Nofo, Mbye, Tamou are the ones that are disappointing - get rid of them. I wouldn't re-sign Luc either.

Fair points Avo....we just have to weather the storm until things settle...I honestly think we will see really good results during and after 2022...

If we can sign the best talent and hang on to it, I think 2023 we'll see some real improvement. Next year I just can't see it. If the powers that be are intent on keeping Madge as coach I also think they need to find the best defensive and attacking coach available and get Madge to take a step back.

 

[TrueTiger]

Wouldn't care if he went but unless we sign a couple second rowers next season it would be silly to let him go.

Given we're possibly going into next season with the ESL duo as our only signings, it's unlikely we'll be playing finals anyway. If we can get him off our books, I say do it, give Tuilagi a run. Garner isn't the sort of player that will take us to the promised land.

Either are some of the rest of our squad...but having said that we must persevere with the young guys who are developing...I know you and others have heard it before but it takes time to mould a winning team all on the same page...

And then they should be moved on too. I'm resigned to the fact we aren't going to sign any desirable established players, so let's just spend the cap on the best young players out there and hope they click. It might take time but who cares. AD, Laurie, Stefano have been our best players this season (whilst Brooks has also been good the last month or so). Nofo, Mbye, Tamou are the ones that are disappointing - get rid of them. I wouldn't re-sign Luc either.

Fair points Avo....we just have to weather the storm until things settle...I honestly think we will see really good results during and after 2022...

If we can sign the best talent and hang on to it, I think 2023 we'll see some real improvement. Next year I just can't see it. If the powers that be are intent on keeping Madge as coach I also think they need to find the best defensive and attacking coach available and get Madge to take a step back.

I really think that the hiring of Sheens will have a big impact on a lot of things within the club...Im saying that because none of us really know what the head honchos at the top have in mind...they tell us one thing but do another...best thing to do is stay positive and wait and see what happens over the preseason and going into season 2022...

 

[JC99]

Wouldn't care if he went but unless we sign a couple second rowers next season it would be silly to let him go.

Given we're possibly going into next season with the ESL duo as our only signings, it's unlikely we'll be playing finals anyway. If we can get him off our books, I say do it, give Tuilagi a run. Garner isn't the sort of player that will take us to the promised land.

Then we cop an injury to the second row and we are struggling to get a replacement. Hang onto him for depth unless we get a second rower in return

 

[2005magic]

Whether he stays / goes, Garner is just one of the many 'ínterim' filler in players WT have too many of. Certainly not one of the keep at all possible cost ones (not that we have many of those)

 

[tig_prmz]

Whether he stays / goes, Garner is just one of the many 'ínterim' filler in players WT have too many of. Certainly not one of the keep at all possible cost ones (not that we have many of those)

interim was suggest they are holding the spot for someone better

 

[Wildcat777]

Lol what i find funny is that most will agree we need a backrow and centres. And looking at the posts that are entered by some on multiple discussions, which in itself is annoying, but where we are headed will be that we will be adding to that list. I can only see us going backwards. That is if the intel is true and accurate. And if this is the case we will not see finals for a very long time.

 

[Wildcat777]

I would only keep atm our front row, halves and 2 of the back 3. The rest are free to go including Pascoe. While these exist we wont be seeing finals in a hurry. Just my humble opinion.

 

[sleeve]

I'm all for giving the development players time. BUT they must have the basics to persist with them. Speed- crucial in todays game, Football IQ- you can't coach it. Attitude- you get nowhere without it.
I see very little of these attributes in most of the young backs. Cut our losses and go for better.

 

[Blaze]

What’s the bet he goes and turns into a monster…. I can see it now… players treating the club like a vacation… really frustrates me.

 

[ElleryHanley]

What’s the bet he goes and turns into a monster…. I can see it now… players treating the club like a vacation… really frustrates me.

Why exactly would he go on to be a monster?

He is mid 20s and had tons of chances.

Brooks has fed him all season and isolated him one on one with defenders, and he simply can't break the tackle of even small backs. O.4 line breaks a game...says it all.

He would be depth at Manly and called on for 6-8 games a year. I.e. his perfect role.

 

[Demps]

What’s the bet he goes and turns into a monster…. I can see it now… players treating the club like a vacation… really frustrates me.

I really can't see it.

He's a winger really but he's too slow now.
Too small for the pack.

Gets folded by every team.

No loss.

 

[Blaze]

What’s the bet he goes and turns into a monster…. I can see it now… players treating the club like a vacation… really frustrates me.

I really can't see it.

He's a winger really but he's too slow now.
Too small for the pack.

Gets folded by every team.

No loss.

I hope so… just a feeling.

 

[Demps]

What’s the bet he goes and turns into a monster…. I can see it now… players treating the club like a vacation… really frustrates me.

I really can't see it.

He's a winger really but he's too slow now.
Too small for the pack.

Gets folded by every team.

No loss.

I hope so… just a feeling.

Usually how it goes....
Lol.

Probably not with this one though.

Manly owes us a favour.
Hopefully we get one in return..
And hopefully its not Sirro ?

 

[Blaze]

What’s the bet he goes and turns into a monster…. I can see it now… players treating the club like a vacation… really frustrates me.

Why exactly would he go on to be a monster?

He is mid 20s and had tons of chances.

Brooks has fed him all season and isolated him one on one with defenders, and he simply can't break the tackle of even small backs. O.4 line breaks a game...says it all.

He would be depth at Manly and called on for 6-8 games a year. I.e. his perfect role.

Just feel he has it in him… and it’s our luck that he would be another player that progressed after leaving…. Honestly, to me he is a nothing player, just think it will bite us… bad mindset I know…

 

[Wildcat777]

All good. Wish him all the best. Hope he can shine else where. Cause his best days at Tigers are done. Hanging on to this quality will just mean no finals. Its just that obvious.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Edge defence is our achilles heel and that starts with the backrowers. And let's be honest, neither Lucy or Garner are great defenders over the course of 80 minutes - Garner has a much better motor and mobility, but again, arm grabs too often when moving laterally.


The shame of it is, when he digs his shoulder in he's one of the few players in the team who can hurt in defence.

I’ll agree he can use his shoulder sometimes but when he does they are never slow to get up. Really doesn’t have enough driving weight behind him.(I don’t see all games though)
Ideally he is a bench player moving forward. At very worst holds mck spot