Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars

@brix-blanco said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264496) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264483) said:
@brix-blanco said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264391) said:
We're world class In 2022. A lot of Money freed up. State of the art COE. Who wants to go can go who wants to stay can stay. I know it hurts but we're building fellas.

Honestly who cares about the COE. The way people bang on about it, you’d think it’s the equivalent of signing Jonathan Thurston in his prime. It’s not going to all of a sudden turn us into a different football team.

I've read your posts bro, your a professional hater artist. The COE will do wonders for the club. High performance from A-Z.

He’s right though, a COE won’t change out track record or our admin. Broncos launched their new COE in 2018 and they got the spoon this year.
 
@brix-blanco said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264496) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264483) said:
@brix-blanco said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264391) said:
We're world class In 2022. A lot of Money freed up. State of the art COE. Who wants to go can go who wants to stay can stay. I know it hurts but we're building fellas.

Honestly who cares about the COE. The way people bang on about it, you’d think it’s the equivalent of signing Jonathan Thurston in his prime. It’s not going to all of a sudden turn us into a different football team.

I've read your posts bro, your a professional hater artist. The COE will do wonders for the club. High performance from A-Z.


Thank you, it’s always nice to have a fan. My point stands. The Broncos have state of the art facilities, so do the Titans. Look how they’ve been going the last couple of years. Penrith have had a COE since about 2012, and it only clicked for them this year. I doubt the COE had much to do with it.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264506) said:
@brix-blanco said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264496) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264483) said:
@brix-blanco said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264391) said:
We're world class In 2022. A lot of Money freed up. State of the art COE. Who wants to go can go who wants to stay can stay. I know it hurts but we're building fellas.

Honestly who cares about the COE. The way people bang on about it, you’d think it’s the equivalent of signing Jonathan Thurston in his prime. It’s not going to all of a sudden turn us into a different football team.

I've read your posts bro, your a professional hater artist. The COE will do wonders for the club. High performance from A-Z.


Thank you, it’s always nice to have a fan. My point stands. The Broncos have state of the art facilities, so do the Titans. Look how they’ve been going the last couple of years. Penrith have had a COE since about 2012, and it only clicked for them this year. I doubt the COE had much to do with it.

And they all have their own home grounds.
 
@Telltails said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264509) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264506) said:
@brix-blanco said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264496) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264483) said:
@brix-blanco said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264391) said:
We're world class In 2022. A lot of Money freed up. State of the art COE. Who wants to go can go who wants to stay can stay. I know it hurts but we're building fellas.

Honestly who cares about the COE. The way people bang on about it, you’d think it’s the equivalent of signing Jonathan Thurston in his prime. It’s not going to all of a sudden turn us into a different football team.

I've read your posts bro, your a professional hater artist. The COE will do wonders for the club. High performance from A-Z.


Thank you, it’s always nice to have a fan. My point stands. The Broncos have state of the art facilities, so do the Titans. Look how they’ve been going the last couple of years. Penrith have had a COE since about 2012, and it only clicked for them this year. I doubt the COE had much to do with it.

And they all have their own home grounds.


That’s a factor as well. It’s not because they have a better gym.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264516) said:
@Telltails said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264509) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264506) said:
@brix-blanco said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264496) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264483) said:
@brix-blanco said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264391) said:
We're world class In 2022. A lot of Money freed up. State of the art COE. Who wants to go can go who wants to stay can stay. I know it hurts but we're building fellas.

Honestly who cares about the COE. The way people bang on about it, you’d think it’s the equivalent of signing Jonathan Thurston in his prime. It’s not going to all of a sudden turn us into a different football team.

I've read your posts bro, your a professional hater artist. The COE will do wonders for the club. High performance from A-Z.


Thank you, it’s always nice to have a fan. My point stands. The Broncos have state of the art facilities, so do the Titans. Look how they’ve been going the last couple of years. Penrith have had a COE since about 2012, and it only clicked for them this year. I doubt the COE had much to do with it.

And they all have their own home grounds.


That’s a factor as well. It’s not because they have a better gym.

It might be a factor but if you don't have the players it doesn't get you results. Titans will do better next year be cause of the roster they are building not because of their home ground or their gym which they have always had.
 
I’m a huge Madge fan. He has a track record, the envy of other longer serving coaches. He showed tremendous courage in taking on this job, knowing how many have failed before him, which means he needs a challenge in his life. He is the most accountable person in the organisation from what I can understand. Please Judge him on results?
 
@twentyforty said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264549) said:
I’m a huge Madge fan. He has a track record, the envy of other longer serving coaches. He showed tremendous courage in taking on this job, knowing how many have failed before him, which means he needs a challenge in his life. He is the most accountable person in the organisation from what I can understand. Please Judge him on results?

Totally agree, Madge has a big presence. Pascoe is the one one dragging us down, doing the cafe circuit with his porn star haircut.
 
@TonyTiger said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264551) said:
@twentyforty said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264549) said:
I’m a huge Madge fan. He has a track record, the envy of other longer serving coaches. He showed tremendous courage in taking on this job, knowing how many have failed before him, which means he needs a challenge in his life. He is the most accountable person in the organisation from what I can understand. Please Judge him on results?

Totally agree, Madge has a big presence. Pascoe is the one one dragging us down, doing the cafe circuit with his porn star haircut.

Always looking under the weather does not portray a good look... the casual look transcends into the casual work ethic.
 
@TonyTiger said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264551) said:
@twentyforty said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264549) said:
I’m a huge Madge fan. He has a track record, the envy of other longer serving coaches. He showed tremendous courage in taking on this job, knowing how many have failed before him, which means he needs a challenge in his life. He is the most accountable person in the organisation from what I can understand. Please Judge him on results?

Totally agree, Madge has a big presence. Pascoe is the one one dragging us down, doing the cafe circuit with his porn star haircut.

I just don’t know why these meetings need to be held in public places? Unless of course this is their way of feeding the media?
 
@twentyforty said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264549) said:
I’m a huge Madge fan. He has a track record, the envy of other longer serving coaches. He showed tremendous courage in taking on this job, knowing how many have failed before him, which means he needs a challenge in his life. He is the most accountable person in the organisation from what I can understand. Please Judge him on results?

We won 2 of our last 10 games.
 
Forget attracting stars, the current CEO and coach can't even put together a roster that can crack the top half of the ladder.
 
I think Maguire is in a situation, having being fired and struggling a bit, where he will need to prove himself as a coach again in the new few years, in this contract he has with Tigers, or he will be on the outer with limited interest in other NRL clubs. Its a competitive world and that's how I see it. Past premiership will give him cred for a limited time only, as we've seen with other coaches.
 
@Geo said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264313) said:
@jirskyr said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264290) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264280) said:
Wests Tigers: unshaven sloppy looking guy buys me a coffee, hopes I get back to him in the next month or two. I won’t.

BTW here are 6 of the world's most successful entrepreneurs
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this bloke is punching above

You will be punching too if you have $100 billion plus in cash and assets.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264483) said:
Honestly who cares about the COE.

I would say the players do. Never seen the gym myself but apparently it was an embarrassment.

It is another part of the puzzle of correcting what's not worked at our club in the past. While we haven't been able to snare some bug names yet and have lost some we didn't want to go, we have at least tightened most of the information leaks, we have seemingly stopped paying overs for has-beens, and trying to go for instant fixes.
If we did lose SM and JA fo these reasons cited, we need to get that fixed. We also need to get a 'happy' 'taken care of' culture at the club perception happening because no-one wants to go to a 'toxic' culture. Getting into the semis or being seen as on the way up also helps but that not going to happen until the other pieces are in place.
Fix those things and we change perception of the club as a destination. Change that perception and we might see players wanting in rather than out.

We are all frustrated by the lack of success. I was at the point of giving it away forever halfway through the year; however, the incremental changes implemented will have an effect if done properly. McGuire knows how to build a club - you don't win two comps unless you do. Hartigan and Pascoe come from organisations that have good structures.

We need people who understand these things not people who love factional fights and stabbing people in the back, a culture that came from both foundation clubs and spread to the Wests Tigers. We are still suffering from patisanship of years gone by.
 
Just another thread to try and justify that JT wasn’t such a bad coach. Give it up. We are recruiting the best juniors, we have some stars in ten making (AD, LL..etc..). We are finally heading in the right direction. I can only imagine what Madge would have done with the likes of Tedesco, Moses , JAC, papyenhizen, woods all in the one team.
 
Neither the club nor Madge have the reputation to sign quality players. Surely that is clear. Talented youngsters is our sole recruitment strategy, and these players are much easier to negotiate with than established stars whom have certain expectations.
 
@mikey said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264609) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264483) said:
Honestly who cares about the COE.

I would say the players do. Never seen the gym myself but apparently it was an embarrassment.

For every Braith Anasta that quits the club with an axe to grind and whinges about rusty dumbells or not enough free Gatorade, you get dozens of players that don't really care.

If you're a decent player with a chance of making origin, you're going to sign with the best performing club. Not the one with a nicer gym or physio room.

This is why we can't sign blokes like JAC or Latrell. It's why we lost Tedesco. Signing with us is a bad career move when the money on offer from others is about the same. Which it always is in the world of salary caps.

Same goes for the best juniors. No parent wants their kid to sign for a dud club.

A decent gym and facilities is just par for the course in the NRL these days.
 
@mikey said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264609) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264483) said:
Honestly who cares about the COE.

I would say the players do. Never seen the gym myself but apparently it was an embarrassment.

It is another part of the puzzle of correcting what's not worked at our club in the past. While we haven't been able to snare some bug names yet and have lost some we didn't want to go, we have at least tightened most of the information leaks, we have seemingly stopped paying overs for has-beens, and trying to go for instant fixes.
If we did lose SM and JA fo these reasons cited, we need to get that fixed. We also need to get a 'happy' 'taken care of' culture at the club perception happening because no-one wants to go to a 'toxic' culture. Getting into the semis or being seen as on the way up also helps but that not going to happen until the other pieces are in place.
Fix those things and we change perception of the club as a destination. Change that perception and we might see players wanting in rather than out.

We are all frustrated by the lack of success. I was at the point of giving it away forever halfway through the year; however, the incremental changes implemented will have an effect if done properly. McGuire knows how to build a club - you don't win two comps unless you do. Hartigan and Pascoe come from organisations that have good structures.

We need people who understand these things not people who love factional fights and stabbing people in the back, a culture that came from both foundation clubs and spread to the Wests Tigers. We are still suffering from patisanship of years gone by.


How many clubs in the comp have a COE? Probably can count them on one hand. Most players in the comp can deal without them. Not the be all end all.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264672) said:
@mikey said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264609) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Madge’s Ability to Attract Stars](/post/1264483) said:
Honestly who cares about the COE.

I would say the players do. Never seen the gym myself but apparently it was an embarrassment.

It is another part of the puzzle of correcting what's not worked at our club in the past. While we haven't been able to snare some bug names yet and have lost some we didn't want to go, we have at least tightened most of the information leaks, we have seemingly stopped paying overs for has-beens, and trying to go for instant fixes.
If we did lose SM and JA fo these reasons cited, we need to get that fixed. We also need to get a 'happy' 'taken care of' culture at the club perception happening because no-one wants to go to a 'toxic' culture. Getting into the semis or being seen as on the way up also helps but that not going to happen until the other pieces are in place.
Fix those things and we change perception of the club as a destination. Change that perception and we might see players wanting in rather than out.

We are all frustrated by the lack of success. I was at the point of giving it away forever halfway through the year; however, the incremental changes implemented will have an effect if done properly. McGuire knows how to build a club - you don't win two comps unless you do. Hartigan and Pascoe come from organisations that have good structures.

We need people who understand these things not people who love factional fights and stabbing people in the back, a culture that came from both foundation clubs and spread to the Wests Tigers. We are still suffering from patisanship of years gone by.


How many clubs in the comp have a COE? Probably can count them on one hand. Most players in the comp can deal without them. Not the be all end all.

Broncos
Canberra
Panthers
Titans
Storm

They are the ones I know of. I suspect the Cowboys probably have something akin now with their new stadium.
 
Remember Newcastle Pre Ponga / Mitchell Pearce.

That's where we are right now.

The next approach to a gun player needs to be on the quiet as the Bad PR is killing us
 
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