Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.
 
@ed-sweeny said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437522) said:
To me that warriors game showed how bad our "marquee" players are. Perfect time for them to stand up and prove their worth when Laurie went off and they failed. Watch the replay of nofo on that Brooks drop out. Hopeless. Brooks himself failed badly in that game both as captain and proving he is worthwhile as a player to another club. If I was a recruiter from another club that game would take 100k off the package for lack of ability under pressure. Madge is trying but he is getting badly let down by his senior(read highest paid) players. Still think they should have given up on the top 8 tilt a few weeks ago and set up for next year dropping anyone that is not in the plan. Seems to me Madge has a top 8 clause in his contract and the players know it so if the club sacks the coach the players can say to their next suitor look it was coach not me.

As they have been doing for over a decade now. This is what needs to change, not the coach
 
@sleeve said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1434310) said:
@tigertuff said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1433823) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1433718) said:
@innsaneink said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1433709) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1433651) said:
Clearly he’s feeling the pressure by trying to defend himself with “look at all the young blokes I’ve given debuts too”. Falls on deaf ears when all of them bar Laurie have been in and out of the team all season. If I’m a youngster, I’m not going to the tigers because my development will continuously struggle because I can be in and out of the team after one game.

Jnr devlpmnt dont work like that
Someone mentioned hes given most of the rookies two games, not sure if
thats accurate or not...but if it is it sounds like a pre concieved plan
to blood a lot of promising junior

Weve also had Stef ...not just Laurie

And just because you debut doesnt automatically guarantee you a starting spot, hard work
and another off season is at play here as well as cap management

Anything worthwile is never easy, but i think a lot of players have your attitude these
days, that its easier and better elsewhere

I also like giving a young guy a taste of first grade and sending them back down to work on the things that they need improve with that knowledge and experience they gained from that time in the top grade.

That’s fine as long as they know what to work on. I can’t see any development at all in anyone. For example, You would think our hookers would be developing kicking games by now and being given the confidence to do these things also. It’s always left to Brooks because no one else does it. When you watch the storm you have backrowers , centres ,wingers hookers ,all of them doing it because it’s everyones job to do what ever is required. It’s always someone else’s job in our team, it’s a joke.

You nailed it, all the top sides have multiple play makers. Storm has Smith, Cronk, Billy and Munster, Panthers had Cleary, LUI, Teo, etc., Souths have Reynolds Walker, Mitchell etc,etc, Easts had Teddy, Morris bros, Manu , keary etc. Parra, -Moses Gutheron , Brown ets Manly, have Tommy T, Jack T. Dce etc.
We have Brooks and not much else, and he is a one man band.

Brooks is a wall flower, Doueihi is blossoming in the playmaker role
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1436864) said:
@joeblock said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1436002) said:
https://www.2gb.com/wests-tigers-coach-pins-hopes-on-moses-mbye-at-fullback/

Desperate Two point field goal attempts and a missing dummy half had me wavering, but I think I'd still rather sink with Madge than contemplate sacking another coach. He still seems genuine in being up for the challenge.

It doesn't matter how genuine you are, how passionate you are, how invested you are if you're just not up to the job.

I genuinely feel for Madge. He is all of the above, but three years of failing is long enough. I personally wouldn't mind him staying at the club in some capacity, but not as head coach. I also realise Madge would probably not stay unless he was head coach. Who knows?
 
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Maybe we should have said he had critical skills in religion to qualify for Australian government exemptions for overseas travel.
Well, footy is a true religion for some .......
 
@tiger_one said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437536) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Maybe we should have said he had critical skills in religion to qualify for Australian government exemptions for overseas travel.
Well, footy is a true religion for some .......

Perhaps he can replace Brian Houston who may not be too keen to return to Australia riight now?
 
@aturkey said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1434273) said:
At least when we had Sheens we had an identity. We were the team that would attack attack attack. It didn't always work, but we were fun to watch. That would work wonders in this current comp. Under Madge we have just looked... sad. No other way to put it. Cleary had us tough and hardened. What has Madge done?

As much as I hate the way Crawley bashes us, the other week he made a good point on NRL 360. He said that under Ivan Cleary, he saw the Tigers improving. He has not seen that with Madge. When you look at the personnel available to Cleary, I can't see much difference in quality to what Madge has had. To me it is obvious, the coach has the greatest effect on how a team performs.
 
@krammy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437538) said:
@aturkey said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1434273) said:
At least when we had Sheens we had an identity. We were the team that would attack attack attack. It didn't always work, but we were fun to watch. That would work wonders in this current comp. Under Madge we have just looked... sad. No other way to put it. Cleary had us tough and hardened. What has Madge done?

As much as I hate the way Crawley bashes us, the other week he made a good point on NRL 360. He said that under Ivan Cleary, he saw the Tigers improving. He has not seen that with Madge. When you look at the personnel available to Cleary, I can't see much difference in quality to what Madge has had. To me it is obvious, the coach has the greatest effect on how a team performs.

To be fair I’m not sure how Crawley would see anything.
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I just hope Scott Woodward’s system has a way of identifying players who have intrinsic motivation to win.
90% of our first graders have no interest in performing.
 
@krammy said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437538) said:
@aturkey said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1434273) said:
At least when we had Sheens we had an identity. We were the team that would attack attack attack. It didn't always work, but we were fun to watch. That would work wonders in this current comp. Under Madge we have just looked... sad. No other way to put it. Cleary had us tough and hardened. What has Madge done?

As much as I hate the way Crawley bashes us, the other week he made a good point on NRL 360. He said that under Ivan Cleary, he saw the Tigers improving. He has not seen that with Madge. When you look at the personnel available to Cleary, I can't see much difference in quality to what Madge has had. To me it is obvious, the coach has the greatest effect on how a team performs.

The coach trains them, plans their development and their game strategy so he is completely responsible for the player's performance.
 
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Surely Harry T could chip in for a private flight back to Oz. Seriously, this bloke's rep as a financial Tigers supporter has to surely be non existent. Maybe Brydens Lawyers could fill the void and stump up the cash.
 
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437548) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Surely Harry T could chip in for a private flight back to Oz. Seriously, this bloke's rep as a financial Tigers supporter has to surely be non existent. Maybe Brydens Lawyers could fill the void and stump up the cash.

He is a big contributor to the club, just doesn't seek anything in return.
 
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437549) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437548) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Surely Harry T could chip in for a private flight back to Oz. Seriously, this bloke's rep as a financial Tigers supporter has to surely be non existent. Maybe Brydens Lawyers could fill the void and stump up the cash.

He is a big contributor to the club, just doesn't seek anything in return.

Maybe but he never ever takes the front foot with something like this where he could make the difference does he? Why doesnt he publicly suggest it to the club?
 
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437553) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437549) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437548) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Surely Harry T could chip in for a private flight back to Oz. Seriously, this bloke's rep as a financial Tigers supporter has to surely be non existent. Maybe Brydens Lawyers could fill the void and stump up the cash.

He is a big contributor to the club, just doesn't seek anything in return.

Maybe but he never ever takes the front foot with something like this where he could make the difference does he? Why doesnt he publicly suggest it to the club?

It is not a maybe, he contributes greatly to the club.
 
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437556) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437553) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437549) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437548) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Surely Harry T could chip in for a private flight back to Oz. Seriously, this bloke's rep as a financial Tigers supporter has to surely be non existent. Maybe Brydens Lawyers could fill the void and stump up the cash.

He is a big contributor to the club, just doesn't seek anything in return.

Maybe but he never ever takes the front foot with something like this where he could make the difference does he? Why doesnt he publicly suggest it to the club?

It is not a maybe, he contributes greatly to the club.

Thanks champion @cochise for that reassurance.
How actually though?
 
Immaterial of Sheens actually arriving onshore, Im pretty sure he has been researching and forming opinions. It will be interesting to see where this lands although I do think Maguire's time is up, the squad cannot escape the ramifications of their lack of effort and performance, they too must be ready to be tapped on shoulder.
 
@tiger_one said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437558) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437556) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437553) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437549) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437548) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Surely Harry T could chip in for a private flight back to Oz. Seriously, this bloke's rep as a financial Tigers supporter has to surely be non existent. Maybe Brydens Lawyers could fill the void and stump up the cash.

He is a big contributor to the club, just doesn't seek anything in return.

Maybe but he never ever takes the front foot with something like this where he could make the difference does he? Why doesnt he publicly suggest it to the club?

It is not a maybe, he contributes greatly to the club.

Thanks champion @cochise for that reassurance.
How actually though?

By giving the club money and asking for nothing in return.
 
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437561) said:
@tiger_one said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437558) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437556) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437553) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437549) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437548) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Surely Harry T could chip in for a private flight back to Oz. Seriously, this bloke's rep as a financial Tigers supporter has to surely be non existent. Maybe Brydens Lawyers could fill the void and stump up the cash.

He is a big contributor to the club, just doesn't seek anything in return.

Maybe but he never ever takes the front foot with something like this where he could make the difference does he? Why doesnt he publicly suggest it to the club?

It is not a maybe, he contributes greatly to the club.

Thanks champion @cochise for that reassurance.
How actually though?

By giving the club money and asking for nothing in return.

I remember the years when Harry T was #1 ticket holder for the club.
The point about "where is he doing his bit by way of contribution" is to simply see a tangible use of his dollar contribution.
In what areas does he actually assist the club that can be made public?
(This would surely remove any doubts ppl have of his perceived lack of help to a struggling club.)
 
@tiger_one said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437566) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437561) said:
@tiger_one said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437558) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437556) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437553) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437549) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437548) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Surely Harry T could chip in for a private flight back to Oz. Seriously, this bloke's rep as a financial Tigers supporter has to surely be non existent. Maybe Brydens Lawyers could fill the void and stump up the cash.

He is a big contributor to the club, just doesn't seek anything in return.

Maybe but he never ever takes the front foot with something like this where he could make the difference does he? Why doesnt he publicly suggest it to the club?

It is not a maybe, he contributes greatly to the club.

Thanks champion @cochise for that reassurance.
How actually though?

By giving the club money and asking for nothing in return.

I remember the years when Harry T was #1 ticket holder for the club.
The point about "where is he doing his bit by way of contribution" is to simply see a tangible use of his dollar contribution.
In what areas does he actually assist the club that can be made public?
(This would surely remove any doubts ppl have of his perceived lack of help to a struggling club.)

He obviously doesn't care if you or the public knows he helps, I can 100% tell you that he contributes to the club.
 
@tiger_one said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437566) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437561) said:
@tiger_one said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437558) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437556) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437553) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437549) said:
@2005magic said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437548) said:
@cochise said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437530) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1437527) said:
Hey dudes anyone know when sheens will be on Australian shores?

The club has been having a lot of trouble getting him on a flight home.

Surely Harry T could chip in for a private flight back to Oz. Seriously, this bloke's rep as a financial Tigers supporter has to surely be non existent. Maybe Brydens Lawyers could fill the void and stump up the cash.

He is a big contributor to the club, just doesn't seek anything in return.

Maybe but he never ever takes the front foot with something like this where he could make the difference does he? Why doesnt he publicly suggest it to the club?

It is not a maybe, he contributes greatly to the club.

Thanks champion @cochise for that reassurance.
How actually though?

By giving the club money and asking for nothing in return.

I remember the years when Harry T was #1 ticket holder for the club.
The point about "where is he doing his bit by way of contribution" is to simply see a tangible use of his dollar contribution.
In what areas does he actually assist the club that can be made public?
(This would surely remove any doubts ppl have of his perceived lack of help to a struggling club.)

Harry T was also Balmain number 1 ticket holder for a long time in the 90's
 
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