Does anyone know of new NRL rules around this? I thought that I read about this months ago that there was going to be a separation of nrl and isp. That every nrl team had to be 'linked' to one feeder isp team but that team would NOT be the same 'brand' as NRL. Does anyone know if the other 4 teams that currently have the same brand in isp will b changing next year? The decision for WT to use Wests magpies came out a few months ago. I see no problem with it. But it would be good if it was consistent across all teams.
Magpies to be 2018 ISP team?
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Ivan may have jumped the gun…NSWRL are still twiddling there thumbs as to what the NSW ISP Cup will be in 2018...Probably fighting for the funding model with the NRL
innsaneink
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It was the head coaches opinion that decision was best for the senior team… Hard to argue imo (and I was one of his biggest critics and an ex magpie)
Well Well..
From Wests Magpies facebook..
Planning for NSWRL Season 2018
Wests Magpies & Wests Tigers are CLOSELY working together regarding a future strategy for ISP (Reserve Grade) and SYC (state based u/20s) for season 2018 & Beyond.
Wests Tigers strategy on setup for next years ISP and SYC is yet to be formally ratified and Wests Tigers are also working with Wests Magpies on the setup of the overall organisation for 2018.
Members & Supporters will be advised of Wests Magpies Teams 2018 participation once everything is locked in place.
From Wests Magpies facebook..
Planning for NSWRL Season 2018
Wests Magpies & Wests Tigers are CLOSELY working together regarding a future strategy for ISP (Reserve Grade) and SYC (state based u/20s) for season 2018 & Beyond.
Wests Tigers strategy on setup for next years ISP and SYC is yet to be formally ratified and Wests Tigers are also working with Wests Magpies on the setup of the overall organisation for 2018.
Members & Supporters will be advised of Wests Magpies Teams 2018 participation once everything is locked in place.
So what does this mean? Only first grade will be Wests Tigers? A whole series of Wests Magpies teams leading into a Wests Tigers NRL team?
Harvey
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How many junior teams (SG Ball etc) do we actually have? Balmain and Wests, who do West Sydney Academy of sport link to in NRL?
Balmain and Wests Magpies have Harold Matthews and SG Ball (15s and 17s). Then there is a WT academy team (not the Western Sydney one).
Carefactor
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They wear the Ryde strip as an away jumper.
Tiger_Steve
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I have only posted a couple of times but have been a rusted on tigers supporter for over 40 years. I understand the point of view that NRL is most important but I can't help thinking this is a decision made by the w magpies dominant board. Don't get me wrong - I am solid wests tigers, and that's the point - I want to support wests tigers. I used to love going to the footy and watching 3 quality games that I am emotionally involved in. I'm an old Balmain supporter so have no emotional attachment to a magpies team. I think many old Balmain supporters will agree. Whether we go to ANZ, Leichhardt or Campbelltown we should be supporting 3 wests tigers teams.
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You didn't mention WHY the players were sent to Balmain and not the Magpies.
Sheens wanted a single Wests Tigers Reserve Grade side so they could run the same game sheets as the NRL side, making it easier to bring players up through the ranks. It was also going to save the club about half a million dollars per season to run a unified reggies team.
But Western Suburbs refused and wanted to remain a stand alone Reserve Grade side, so they went their own way. And ended up getting flogged 64-Nil every week.
It had nothing to do with perceived favoritism for Balmain, and everything to do with Wests RLFC not wanting to do what was best for the NRL Side at the time (and then hilariously trying to become the feeder club for St George-Illawarra).
This recent decision is just bringing back old divisions at a time when we are finally unified throughout all the senior ranks… one step forward and two steps back.
Plenty of people wanted the same brand across all three grades and now we take a backward step.
Does anybody seriously think the young supporters who had no allegiance to either of the old clubs will throw their support behind Wests Magpies and start chanting 'Go the Maggies'?
They are WestsTiger supporters.
Also, if you believe this is being done to shore up our presence in the Macarthur region you are kidding yourself as the current WestsTigers do a lot of work out there - despite the local council being more a hindrance than a help.
Does anybody seriously think the young supporters who had no allegiance to either of the old clubs will throw their support behind Wests Magpies and start chanting 'Go the Maggies'?
They are WestsTiger supporters.
Also, if you believe this is being done to shore up our presence in the Macarthur region you are kidding yourself as the current WestsTigers do a lot of work out there - despite the local council being more a hindrance than a help.
Yes definitely…the 120 odd people who actually follow the ISP and could tell you the names of the players or even the Coach will be reduced to about 60...
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I think you'd be wrong about that Geo.
I remember back (a bloody long way) to when I was a kid passionately following my team.
I wanted to know who was playing reserve grade(back then)so I knew who to look forward seeing come through to firsts - same with third grade.
Unfortunately it's pretty well impossible to go see all the grades now.
Lots of NRL clubs use different clubs/feeder teams in the NSW Cup; and common branding isn't an issue for them. And let's be honest , if the Wests Tigers were proposing to use Ryde Eastwood or some other club as their feeder team there would be less resistance and emotion regarding this decision. But using the Wests Magpies strikes fear into the old Balmain faithful (ie, that the WT are becoming more Wests and less Balmain). I think in time fans will become comfortable with this arrangement and will cheer on the Maggies in this competition, after all it's in the Wests Tigers bests interests that they are successful. There's no suggestion, goal or chance of anything changing at NRL level so there's nothing to fear but importantly it allows Wests Ashfield to fulfill their mandate of preserving the history of the Wests Magpies while building a strong future for the Wests Tigers.
Harvey
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You don't get to watch 3 games at the ground anymore. That is lucky to happen 3 times a season. To all those that have suddenly discovered their passion for the ISP cup side, why is it that game updates are posted by the same 5 members on the forum, with many more asking for updates.
I remember the game (was it last year) where the lone fan was over the fence yelling lolly legs at the opposition kicker. That was at an NRL game and there was hardly a crowd there to drown him out.
I remember the game (was it last year) where the lone fan was over the fence yelling lolly legs at the opposition kicker. That was at an NRL game and there was hardly a crowd there to drown him out.
Lots of clubs aren't joint ventures. The only other one that is probably feels so embarrassed about the inequality of the joint venture that they call them Illawarra. Not Steelers mind you…
Strikes fear? I wouldn't say so but what's next? Team colours? Ground allocation? I'm happy to support Wests Tigers - I'm not going to support a barely disguised Wests Magpies a la St George. What concerns me is that I wouldn't trust the board on anything.
I don't see how being called the Magpies is going to make them any more successful. It's needlessly divisive at a time when we need unity and a common purpose. It's a powerplay that achieves little and creates ill will.
Strikes fear? I wouldn't say so but what's next? Team colours? Ground allocation? I'm happy to support Wests Tigers - I'm not going to support a barely disguised Wests Magpies a la St George. What concerns me is that I wouldn't trust the board on anything.
I don't see how being called the Magpies is going to make them any more successful. It's needlessly divisive at a time when we need unity and a common purpose. It's a powerplay that achieves little and creates ill will.
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That would actually be better.
