MaGuire Interview ..BSB..

@bigsiro said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197578) said:
@Geo said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197567) said:
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@OzLuke said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196179) said:
@851 said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196177) said:
@Snake said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196171) said:
I am getting the feeling there is going to be a big turn over of players including Some contracted ones as well .

I hope so, we are in dire need of new blood

It's good that Madge wants to bring in new blood....but who is going to come to us? **What cattle are out there that would improve what we already have?**

Seriously???

Yeah....asking opinions not that I see us having the greatest squad ever and couldn't think of anyone


Barely any player on our team would make it into any of the top 6 teams. It is a woeful team on paper.

Here have a gander. https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/08/04/round-13-nrl-squad-announcements/

Even the next teams mostly have better players 1:1 than us. If you disagree; cest la vie.

Round 10..Team of the week

![team-of-the-week_20200721.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1596696073078-team-of-the-week_20200721.jpg)

Geo do you actually think our players would make a top side?

Yes Nofoaluma has made team of the week in 6 Rounds this season out of 13 including last week..Aloiai 3 times Grant and Luciano Leilua twice, Marshall Garner and Lawrence also making the team even after losses..

Maybe woeful on paper but they can perform individually
 
@bigsiro said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197578) said:
@Geo said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197567) said:
@bigsiro said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197564) said:
@OzLuke said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197543) said:
@bigsiro said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196340) said:
@OzLuke said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196179) said:
@851 said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196177) said:
@Snake said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196171) said:
I am getting the feeling there is going to be a big turn over of players including Some contracted ones as well .

I hope so, we are in dire need of new blood

It's good that Madge wants to bring in new blood....but who is going to come to us? **What cattle are out there that would improve what we already have?**

Seriously???

Yeah....asking opinions not that I see us having the greatest squad ever and couldn't think of anyone


Barely any player on our team would make it into any of the top 6 teams. It is a woeful team on paper.

Here have a gander. https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/08/04/round-13-nrl-squad-announcements/

Even the next teams mostly have better players 1:1 than us. If you disagree; cest la vie.

Round 10..Team of the week

![team-of-the-week_20200721.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1596696073078-team-of-the-week_20200721.jpg)

Geo do you actually think our players would make a top side?

Nofoaluma, the Leilua brothers , Aloiai, Grant and Twal would find a spot somewhere in a top 6 side. Doueihi started at fullback in a preliminary final last year. Joey started in a grand final. kids like Talau, Kepaoa and Blore would be snapping at the ankles at any club.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197070) said:
@balmain-boy said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197049) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197045) said:
look at Parra and newcastle it takes time to turn the titanic around

They've both done it MUCH faster than we have. 9 years on and we're still shuffling around. They get a spoon or two, clear the decks and sign superstars. We're a joke.

Give Madge a further 2 year extension and let him do his thing.

We still let Cleary and Panthers off way too lightly. We should have insisted he take one of the bad contracts with him to the Panthers or no deal. He screwed our cap for years and we settled for 500k outside the cap. Not good enough.

It's a little bit more complicated than saying they've done it much faster. They have had stability in front office and coaching on Parramatta's behalf and an influx of serious wealth on Newcastle's behalf (and even then have Newcastle achieved much with it so far?) .

On our side we have had Humphreys, Grant Mayer and Pascoe in the front office plus Sheens, Potter, Taylor, Cleary and now Maguire as coaches. That's 8 people involved in key recruitment and decision making in 9 years! You will NEVER achieve any success as an organisation with the unclear vision that amount of change brings. Sadly, I would say we wrote off 7.5 years there, which is unfathomable for any business. Really, if Maguire and Pascoe don't succeed here I don't know why the NRL would keep us around. Aside from their financial donations they've never had enough resources or leadership themselves to help us out.

Teams/businesses need strong governance and we've simply never had it until now. Without it you become a novelty, a hobby, like the Newtown Jets. Belatedly though I think we have our ShiP in order.

Yet somehow the club has (I think) kept a strong member base? And considering the sustained failure to make the finals for so long and the calibre of the players we have lost, having this strong member base seems a little unbelievable.

I know I have thought long and hard about shelling the dollars out and renewing my membership the last 2 years.

We will have to wait and I suppose, but my patience is wearing thin.
 
@jrtiger said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197593) said:
@bigsiro said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197578) said:
@Geo said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197567) said:
@bigsiro said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197564) said:
@OzLuke said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197543) said:
@bigsiro said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196340) said:
@OzLuke said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196179) said:
@851 said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196177) said:
@Snake said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196171) said:
I am getting the feeling there is going to be a big turn over of players including Some contracted ones as well .

I hope so, we are in dire need of new blood

It's good that Madge wants to bring in new blood....but who is going to come to us? **What cattle are out there that would improve what we already have?**

Seriously???

Yeah....asking opinions not that I see us having the greatest squad ever and couldn't think of anyone


Barely any player on our team would make it into any of the top 6 teams. It is a woeful team on paper.

Here have a gander. https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/08/04/round-13-nrl-squad-announcements/

Even the next teams mostly have better players 1:1 than us. If you disagree; cest la vie.

Round 10..Team of the week

![team-of-the-week_20200721.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1596696073078-team-of-the-week_20200721.jpg)

Geo do you actually think our players would make a top side?

Nofoaluma, the Leilua brothers , Aloiai, Grant and Twal would find a spot somewhere in a top 6 side. Doueihi started at fullback in a preliminary final last year. Joey started in a grand final. kids like Talau, Kepaoa and Blore would be snapping at the ankles at any club.

Talau, Kepaoa and Blore would be nowhere near a contender. Certainly in time, but not now.
Douehi.... I mean really...isn’t the fact that they released him evidence enough that he didn’t cut it?
Nofa been attacking and finishing well this year and the Leilua brothers have shown what they can be. Grant and Aloiai might sneak into a weaker team .... as for the rest ....
 
But whatever, I didn’t actually want to bash any players in particular, it was just a comment that there are plenty of other players out there which are better than ours. You don’t really have to look that hard to find them either.
This ensuing discussion only served to prove the point: that there are only three, maybe four players that might make a top of 6 side.
 
@bigsiro said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197578) said:
@Geo said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197567) said:
@bigsiro said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197564) said:
@OzLuke said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1197543) said:
@bigsiro said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196340) said:
@OzLuke said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196179) said:
@851 said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196177) said:
@Snake said in [MaGuire Interview \.\.BSB\.\.](/post/1196171) said:
I am getting the feeling there is going to be a big turn over of players including Some contracted ones as well .

I hope so, we are in dire need of new blood

It's good that Madge wants to bring in new blood....but who is going to come to us? **What cattle are out there that would improve what we already have?**

Seriously???

Yeah....asking opinions not that I see us having the greatest squad ever and couldn't think of anyone


Barely any player on our team would make it into any of the top 6 teams. It is a woeful team on paper.

Here have a gander. https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/08/04/round-13-nrl-squad-announcements/

Even the next teams mostly have better players 1:1 than us. If you disagree; cest la vie.

Round 10..Team of the week

![team-of-the-week_20200721.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1596696073078-team-of-the-week_20200721.jpg)

Geo do you actually think our players would make a top side?


From our squad, the players I think would have no chance getting signed by a competitive club would be, Mbye (although for low price he might), Jennings, REynolds, Walters, Eiso, Garner, Lawrence, Packer, Seyfarth, Benji.

The rest would be a good chance but probably on less $$
 
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