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'We have to use that identity': Why Maguire wants to raise the Tigers' bar
Sam Phillips
By Sam Phillips
February 15, 2020 — 4.43pm

Michael Maguire sat down after the Tigers lost a must-win showdown with Cronulla in the final round of last season in what appeared to be a reflective mood.

Just minutes after the Tigers had been eliminated from finals contention for the eighth straight season – ending Robbie Farah's illustrious career – Maguire wasn't scathing in his assessment of his players or the officials, as you might expect.

**Instead, he spoke about changing the expectations at Concord. Raising the bar. Demanding excellence. Shooting for grand finals, rather than eighth place.**

"I've been fortunate in my experiences to be in a successful space and I’ve been able to identify what it looks like and what it takes to be successful," Maguire said in Perth before the NRL Nines this week.

"I actually felt when you talk about that game when he didn’t make the top eight, I was very disappointed. I believe and I thought the club was definitely in a position to go put themselves into that arena.

"You look back through our last season – there was probably a number of games there that we missed, but once you’ve developed a strong stand, a strong culture in your club, those games go your way.

"It wasn’t so much just about the last game, it was about the expectations across the season.

"Those are the things I was alluding to around growing an organisation. It’s the everyday stuff. It’s as simple as turning up on time, knowing what’s required, knowing your role, doing your job. They’re the cliches that coaches throw out there, but it’s about understanding what the level and standard of what that expectation is."

Identifying the need to raise the bar and heighten expectations is one thing. Actually changing the culture of a club that has struggled for an identity since the 2005 premiership is another.

"The club itself – when the two organisations came together – 2005 gave it a real identity," Maguire said. "We have to use that identity. There were a lot of young kids that watched the game and they became Benji Marshall fans, Brett Hodgson fans, Robbie Farah fans, there were a lot of young men and women who jumped on board at that time.

"There’s been a following there. It’s just been dormant for a while.

"We need to revitalise that and I think we actually saw it in that last game. The players themselves are really passionate about putting ourselves into that arena because it’s good fun. There is nothing better than being there."

Maguire hopes the drive he is now seeing in his players will lead to breaking the finals drought this year. But as he said after the devastating final round loss of 2019, the Tigers are no longer here to simply scrape into finals.

Maguire and the rest of the club want to win a grand final.

"I feel at the moment we’ve got not only the hierarchy but everyone – everyone around the club is aspiring to be the best in all areas," he said. "Whether it’s marketing department, membership, we need more members, we want to bring the members on the journey.

"And when the outside world can see that we’re in a strong position moving forward, everyone will get behind that.

"A lot of the things I was alluding to around that was exactly that – standards and expectations amongst us as a club and myself as a coach. From what I’ve seen as a coach, you need all of that to drive your standards.

**"I wouldn't say it’s potential, either. It’s there. I think it’s there already."**
 
@Geo said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117336) said:
"I wouldn’t say it’s potential, either. It’s there. I think it’s there already."

That is a big comment isn't it. I reckon the teams are closer this year and we are in with a chance. The problem is so is every other team.
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117345) said:
That's why the NEGATIVITY in this FORUM has to go we have to become BELIEVERS

We want to be believers but have been burnt so often in the past. Hopefully Madge and the team can change it all this year.
 
@Tcat said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117348) said:
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117345) said:
That's why the NEGATIVITY in this FORUM has to go we have to become BELIEVERS

We want to be believers but have been burnt so often in the past. Hopefully Madge and the team can change it all this year.

TRUE its all in past and it looks like a bright future
 
You wouldn’t believe it’s possible in 2019, to have a professional sporting club which pays its players $400k to have a negative view of the holy grail? It appears that Madge has identified what’s been holding us back and the way forward. Organisations Cultures are developed over long periods of time, so in order to return to a winning teamwork culture it’s a big help to have a few who know what it feels like, particularly in admin. Hiring Madge was a step in the right direction. So too Hodgo and Ronnie Palmer etc.
 
Not caring about the 9s is loser mentality.
1 million on the line...

I hope our guys are as shattered as Mitch Moses is that they got eliminated.
 
@Demps said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117372) said:
Not caring about the 9s is loser mentality.
1 million on the line...
I hope our guys are as shattered as Mitch Moses is that they got eliminated.

Really though we were robbed in the 9's but a completely unfair format! I wouldn't be upset at losing such a poorly run event.
 
@Tiger_Steve said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117367) said:
Gotta start winning big moments both within games and games themselves. When that happens we have turned a corner.



@Tiger_Steve said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117367) said:
Gotta start winning big moments both within games and games themselves. When that happens we have turned a corner.

My take on Madge’s message above was that we have to start winning the small moments?
If we do, then those big moments will go our way.
I agree with you btw.
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117378) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117354) said:
BuT wE DiDn’t MaKe ThE NiNeS Qf’S. NoThING cHaNgEs.

It's a MICKEY MOUSE EVENT (apologies to MICKY)

A mickey mouse event ruined by poor scheduling!
 
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117375) said:
@Demps said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117372) said:
Not caring about the 9s is loser mentality.
1 million on the line...
I hope our guys are as shattered as Mitch Moses is that they got eliminated.

Really though we were robbed in the 9's but a completely unfair format! I wouldn't be upset at losing such a poorly run event.

We could have picked a better side if it really mattered

Coach and club thought it didn't matter

Either way you can't blame the NRL
 
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117418) said:
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117375) said:
@Demps said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117372) said:
Not caring about the 9s is loser mentality.
1 million on the line...
I hope our guys are as shattered as Mitch Moses is that they got eliminated.

Really though we were robbed in the 9's but a completely unfair format! I wouldn't be upset at losing such a poorly run event.

We could have picked a better side if it really mattered

Coach and club thought it didn't matter

Either way you can't blame the NRL

Why would it matter when you can have a setup where we miss the finals in the way we did. The NRL treated the 9's as a joke by having pools where you play 2 out of the 3 opponents in your pool. Rabbits made the finals due to them playing a reserve grade Raiders team and us playing a relative strong Titans.

I would disappointed if we treated such a poorly thought out event with anything above contempt!
 
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117425) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117418) said:
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117375) said:
@Demps said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117372) said:
Not caring about the 9s is loser mentality.
1 million on the line...
I hope our guys are as shattered as Mitch Moses is that they got eliminated.

Really though we were robbed in the 9's but a completely unfair format! I wouldn't be upset at losing such a poorly run event.

We could have picked a better side if it really mattered

Coach and club thought it didn't matter

Either way you can't blame the NRL

Why would it matter when you can have a setup where we miss the finals in the way we did. The NRL treated the 9's as a joke by having pools where you play 2 out of the 3 opponents in your pool. Rabbits made the finals due to them playing a reserve grade Raiders team and us playing a relative strong Titans.

I would disappointed if we treated such a poorly thought out event with anything above contempt!

Well we wait until all sides in our group are named and then name ours ....next question

We knew the format ...we chose our squad ......end of story

Obviously Madge and his sentries didn't think $ 1000 000 was that important

Ancient history move on
 
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117427) said:
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117425) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117418) said:
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117375) said:
@Demps said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117372) said:
Not caring about the 9s is loser mentality.
1 million on the line...
I hope our guys are as shattered as Mitch Moses is that they got eliminated.

Really though we were robbed in the 9's but a completely unfair format! I wouldn't be upset at losing such a poorly run event.

We could have picked a better side if it really mattered

Coach and club thought it didn't matter

Either way you can't blame the NRL

Why would it matter when you can have a setup where we miss the finals in the way we did. The NRL treated the 9's as a joke by having pools where you play 2 out of the 3 opponents in your pool. Rabbits made the finals due to them playing a reserve grade Raiders team and us playing a relative strong Titans.

I would disappointed if we treated such a poorly thought out event with anything above contempt!

Well we wait until all sides in our group are named and then name ours ....next question

We knew the format ...we chose our squad ......end of story

Obviously Madge and his sentries didn't think $ 1000 000 was that important

Ancient history move on

The winners of the 9's received $250k, and I am quite happy with the squad we chose!



@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117427) said:
Well we wait until all sides in our group are named and then name ours …next question
We knew the format …we chose our squad …end of story

That makes no sense to me, how does knowing we wouldn't play a reserve grade Raiders outfit change our choices, it would actually make me choose a worst team as we are now disadvantaged.
 
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117429) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117427) said:
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117425) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117418) said:
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117375) said:
@Demps said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117372) said:
Not caring about the 9s is loser mentality.
1 million on the line...
I hope our guys are as shattered as Mitch Moses is that they got eliminated.

Really though we were robbed in the 9's but a completely unfair format! I wouldn't be upset at losing such a poorly run event.

We could have picked a better side if it really mattered

Coach and club thought it didn't matter

Either way you can't blame the NRL

Why would it matter when you can have a setup where we miss the finals in the way we did. The NRL treated the 9's as a joke by having pools where you play 2 out of the 3 opponents in your pool. Rabbits made the finals due to them playing a reserve grade Raiders team and us playing a relative strong Titans.

I would disappointed if we treated such a poorly thought out event with anything above contempt!

Well we wait until all sides in our group are named and then name ours ....next question

We knew the format ...we chose our squad ......end of story

Obviously Madge and his sentries didn't think $ 1000 000 was that important

Ancient history move on

The winners of the 9's received $250k, and I am quite happy with the squad we chose!



@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117427) said:
Well we wait until all sides in our group are named and then name ours …next question
We knew the format …we chose our squad …end of story

That makes no sense to me, how does knowing we wouldn't play a reserve grade Raiders outfit change our choices, it would actually make me choose a worst team as we are now disadvantaged.

You win both games if it is so important

The club didn't think it was important

Move on ...I can't see why your getting your knickers in a knot
 
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117431) said:
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117429) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117427) said:
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117425) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117418) said:
@cochise said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117375) said:
@Demps said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117372) said:
Not caring about the 9s is loser mentality.
1 million on the line...
I hope our guys are as shattered as Mitch Moses is that they got eliminated.

Really though we were robbed in the 9's but a completely unfair format! I wouldn't be upset at losing such a poorly run event.

We could have picked a better side if it really mattered

Coach and club thought it didn't matter

Either way you can't blame the NRL

Why would it matter when you can have a setup where we miss the finals in the way we did. The NRL treated the 9's as a joke by having pools where you play 2 out of the 3 opponents in your pool. Rabbits made the finals due to them playing a reserve grade Raiders team and us playing a relative strong Titans.

I would disappointed if we treated such a poorly thought out event with anything above contempt!

Well we wait until all sides in our group are named and then name ours ....next question

We knew the format ...we chose our squad ......end of story

Obviously Madge and his sentries didn't think $ 1000 000 was that important

Ancient history move on

The winners of the 9's received $250k, and I am quite happy with the squad we chose!



@happy_tiger said in [Maguire\.\.Raising the Bar\.\.](/post/1117427) said:
Well we wait until all sides in our group are named and then name ours …next question
We knew the format …we chose our squad …end of story

That makes no sense to me, how does knowing we wouldn't play a reserve grade Raiders outfit change our choices, it would actually make me choose a worst team as we are now disadvantaged.

You win both games if it is so important

The club didn't think it was important

Move on ...I can't see why your getting your knickers in a knot

Me getting my knickers in a knot? I'm not here complaining we treated a mickey mouse tournament as a mickey mouse tournament!

We won one game easily and lost the 2nd by 1 point, seems a pretty good effort for us since its your opinion we chose a poor squad!
 

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