Marshall

@seijai said:
Fully agree.

**_Marshall has been woeful for 2 years now._**
I don't understand why he continues to be the one kicking the ball when he clearly can't kick. His grubbers suck, his bombs go backwards, kicks out on a full in general play, and what about his penalty kicks to touch? Barring his long range effort which didn't find touch, he usually kicks it 10m!! 10 whole freaking metres even when we are in our own 20

Any other team will get 30m gain on a penalty kick.

Crab walks horizontally and then waves his hand to a player to run back on the inside and dishes to him for suicide run. What's his average run metres the past year and a half? 40m?

If McGuire was the coach, Benji would be playing reggies since last year

He's been rubbish for 2 years? Since round 4 2011? It must have been very poor quality comp in 2011 seeing as he finished second to Slater in the Dally M.
 
@innsaneink said:
I too thought he seemed to give up on that play.
Even if it seems impossible, in pro sport you shouldnt be doing that…no diff to Parra turning their backs last week

Can you imagine say Fittler ,Daley ,Langer ,Lockyer or Johns only going for the ball with one hand .

No they hit it at 100% and try and bump the fullback off ,not our Benji

I understand that his every 2nd thought it counterbalanced by the thought of "shoulder" but thats the problem isn't it

He rarely puts it all on the line when we need him too
 
@gallagher said:
@seijai said:
Fully agree.

**_Marshall has been woeful for 2 years now._**
I don't understand why he continues to be the one kicking the ball when he clearly can't kick. His grubbers suck, his bombs go backwards, kicks out on a full in general play, and what about his penalty kicks to touch? Barring his long range effort which didn't find touch, he usually kicks it 10m!! 10 whole freaking metres even when we are in our own 20

Any other team will get 30m gain on a penalty kick.

Crab walks horizontally and then waves his hand to a player to run back on the inside and dishes to him for suicide run. What's his average run metres the past year and a half? 40m?

If McGuire was the coach, Benji would be playing reggies since last year

He's been rubbish for 2 years? Since round 4 2011? It must have been very poor quality comp in 2011 seeing as he finished second to Slater in the Dally M.

Has the Dally M ever gone to a defensive player? Didn't think so.

All it does is look at his offensive stats and plays, and gives him points.

How many missed tackles did he have in 2011? His offence maybe good (then), but defensively? No way. If they took that into consideration, he would be no where
 
@seijai said:
@gallagher said:
@seijai said:
Fully agree.

**_Marshall has been woeful for 2 years now._**
I don't understand why he continues to be the one kicking the ball when he clearly can't kick. His grubbers suck, his bombs go backwards, kicks out on a full in general play, and what about his penalty kicks to touch? Barring his long range effort which didn't find touch, he usually kicks it 10m!! 10 whole freaking metres even when we are in our own 20

Any other team will get 30m gain on a penalty kick.

Crab walks horizontally and then waves his hand to a player to run back on the inside and dishes to him for suicide run. What's his average run metres the past year and a half? 40m?

If McGuire was the coach, Benji would be playing reggies since last year

He's been rubbish for 2 years? Since round 4 2011? It must have been very poor quality comp in 2011 seeing as he finished second to Slater in the Dally M.

Has the Dally M ever gone to a defensive player? Didn't think so.

All it does is look at his offensive stats and plays, and gives him points.

How many missed tackles did he have in 2011? His offence maybe good (then), but defensively? No way. If they took that into consideration, he would be no where

Neither would Thurston. That is without doubt the most ridiculous post I've ever read. I cant believe I'm replying to it.
Lets sack him then and sign Dallas Johnston to play 5/8.
 
@gallagher said:
@seijai said:
@gallagher said:
@seijai said:
Fully agree.

**_Marshall has been woeful for 2 years now._**
I don't understand why he continues to be the one kicking the ball when he clearly can't kick. His grubbers suck, his bombs go backwards, kicks out on a full in general play, and what about his penalty kicks to touch? Barring his long range effort which didn't find touch, he usually kicks it 10m!! 10 whole freaking metres even when we are in our own 20

Any other team will get 30m gain on a penalty kick.

Crab walks horizontally and then waves his hand to a player to run back on the inside and dishes to him for suicide run. What's his average run metres the past year and a half? 40m?

If McGuire was the coach, Benji would be playing reggies since last year

He's been rubbish for 2 years? Since round 4 2011? It must have been very poor quality comp in 2011 seeing as he finished second to Slater in the Dally M.

Has the Dally M ever gone to a defensive player? Didn't think so.

All it does is look at his offensive stats and plays, and gives him points.

How many missed tackles did he have in 2011? His offence maybe good (then), but defensively? No way. If they took that into consideration, he would be no where

Neither would Thurston. That is without doubt the most ridiculous post I've ever read. I cant believe I'm replying to it.
Lets sack him then and sign Dallas Johnston to play 5/8.

More ridiculous than saying sack him and signing Dallas Johnston? You for real?

If Benji is playing badly and not in form, there is nothing wrong with dropping him to reggies. Why would you need to go to extremes in your argument? Get over your manlove for Benji
 
@seijai said:
More ridiculous than saying sack him and signing Dallas Johnston? You for real?

If Benji is playing badly and not in form, there is nothing wrong with dropping him to reggies. Why would you need to go to extremes in your argument? Get over your manlove for Benji

Call it manlove if you want. Personally I thought Benji was really good in 2011 when he came second in the Dally M rankings. You thought he was woeful.
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
@kh_canada said:
@hybrid_tiger said:
When is the last time Marshall played an outstanding game against quality opposition, not garbage like Parramatta and Penrith?

For once, can we just forget about the team we played. If we have a great game against "garbage teams" we automatically downgrade the performance. Have you even thought about why Benji was on last week and off tonight? The whole team as a collective were disheartened after being unable to score points. If we aren't firing it's hard for one man to be on his game, we can't expect him to carry the team and play a blinder week in and week out. Do you ever see a quality player, play a good game if the rest of the team isn't? Very rarely. And Benji wasn't atrocious, he was just unevident. He made tackles like everyone else, he passed and kicked. He made few errors and few missed tackles. If anything thats a good game for anyone. At least he attempted a chip kick to spark the team, unfortunately he came out 2nd best.

No we can't forget about the team we played. The best players step up in the big games, against the big teams.

I'm not expecting miracles, just a competent performance. If you are happy what he dished up the other night then you and I have different standards expected from someone who is supposed to be our second best player.

Our forward pack has been belted most weeks for the past few years but still its usually Farah carries our team on his back. So yes, a quality player can still play a good game even if the team is not

As for the chip kick, yes I saw it. Did you see what he did when it didn't come off? He stopped, stood there and watched a Manly player gather the ball and run about 25 metres, not even attempting to chase him.

I wasn't happy at all with the performance on Thursday, but not just from Benji. The whole team was off except for a few forwards putting in all in.

And I agree about the chipkick, it was poor form for Benji to give up and expect the forwards (once again) to clean up for his error. I know in any instance if I make a mistake I do anything in my power to rectify it.

But the original point I was trying to make was that just because Marshall & the rest of the team has a good game against a lesser team doesn't mean it should be nothing/meaningless. I think there's positives to take from every game, woeful or not. It just seems that everyone doesn't care how well a player does unless it's against a top side.
 

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