Matt Groat released?

[HBanana]

Surprised if true.. fallen out of favour …. why

Imo he isn't up to it. We're going to have a wealth of depth in the front row next yr - Woods, Galloway, Buchanan, Seumanufagai, Gavet, Taupau, and most likely Blair spending time up front as well. I'd say its in both parties interest that he look elsewhere next yr.

In the context of dominating forward packs next year, Buchanan - zero size/speed/impact.
Ava- POSSIBLY may develop
Gavet - untested in NRL
Taupau - good young prop.
Groat - not up to it..
So that really only leaves us with woods/Blair/Keith/taupau that can impose themselves over rival packs.
(That's right Blair too, has been very good since moving to prop )

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[Irvine]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

 

[alex]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

I love how you can say the four first graders are 'nothing special', 'best game was 3 years ago', 'didn't make junior reps' etc but the only compliment you have for Groat is that he made a junior rep side … more than 3 years ago.

Sue dominated the 20's and has brought his form into first grade. For a guy in his early 20s he hasn't backed away from the tough work which I admire.

Very pessimistic, Irvine.

 

[Blake93]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

Who's George?

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[tigermaniac]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

Groat has nothing compared to the players you've named. He might come good one day, but I highly doubt it, he's no Fifita.

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[Tiger_Watto]

If he is released, it is probably a good thing for Matt and his career… He will make the grade in the NRL over the next few years, but I'm not sure where he will end up.

That's up to Matt now!!!

 

[wtfl1981]

Hope he can find a club to blossom at.

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[magpiecol]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

Groat has nothing compared to the players you've named. He might come good one day, but I highly doubt it, he's no Fifita.

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If he was not crucified by Sheens and Teo, he would have, and still could, develop into a far better prop than Fifita ever was or will be. Some of you people could not see talent if it bit you on the leg.

 

[Flippedy]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

Who's George?

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:laughing: It's St George, Blake - the St is just separated from the George on the line above it - no we haven't signed George Rose :laughing:

 

[Blake93]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

Who's George?

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:laughing: It's St George, Blake - the St is just separated from the George on the line above it - no we haven't signed George Rose :laughing:

Note to self: wake up properly before posting on the forum hahaha

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[Tigrr]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

Groat has nothing compared to the players you've named. He might come good one day, but I highly doubt it, he's no Fifita.

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If he was not crucified by Sheens and Teo, he would have, and still could, develop into a far better prop than Fifita ever was or will be. Some of you people could not see talent if it bit you on the leg.

Why didnt some come in and smash Teo…it wasnt for fear of being dropped,thats for sure

 

[mykidsrule]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

Are you fair dinkum "Irvine!!" Your eyes must be painted on if you think Sue is an ordinary prospect!!! He has not shown any hint of not being able to handle 1st grade since he was thrown in weeks ago. If anything he has been one of our more consistent performers week in,week out.
:crazy :blah :brick:

 

[tigermaniac]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

Groat has nothing compared to the players you've named. He might come good one day, but I highly doubt it, he's no Fifita.

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If he was not crucified by Sheens and Teo, he would have, and still could, develop into a far better prop than Fifita ever was or will be. Some of you people could not see talent if it bit you on the leg.

I love how you use the word IF. Let me have a go. If you had eyes and a brain, you'll understand that I'm right.

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[supercoach]

Its all about the club making a call on a player and how they see his skills benefiting the side in the next few years and where he is in the list of priorities.

Hard for me to make a call as I have not seen him since his return from injury, but by all accounts he has been going well, given our attrition rate up front you would think they would least make a offer. Although we dont know what is going on behind the scenes and what the club has told him.I say you need 6 NRL standard front rowers to get through a season

 

[tigerbenji]

Would love to see Groat stay as i think he could end up a very good player.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Would love to see Groat stay as i think he could end up a very good player.

no point in the bloke staying and not making it back in the FG Team.
It will be a real waste of his talent.

 

[jirskyr]

Groat was an outstanding junior making the Australian schoolboys two years running.
He has the pedigree to develop under the proper coaching.

Ava..who is Ava can't even remember him making a junior rep side.
Buchanan..average prop discarded by St. George..can't see him developing.
Sue..has played well but nothing special…just like he was in junior reps and under 20's.
BMM...best game was his debut game....3 years ago.

Hope I am wrong..just how it looks at the moment.
Without a strong forward pack even new super star Brooks will look like Miller.

Groat has nothing compared to the players you've named. He might come good one day, but I highly doubt it, he's no Fifita.

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If he was not crucified by Sheens and Teo, he would have, and still could, develop into a far better prop than Fifita ever was or will be. Some of you people could not see talent if it bit you on the leg.

Whilst I agree Grobot was hard done by the Te'o KO, I think it's a long stretch to say without it he'd be a better prop than Fifita. This is the same Fifita who was arguably NSW's player of the series this year and leads the comp in a majority of prop stats.

Groat debuted at 19, Fifita debuted at 20\. Fifita had a full year in NYC, Grobot had 6 months. Apart from that, how was he crucified by Sheens? I'm all for bringing along kids at the right speed, but I think Sheens always had a good track record of doing that with players over the years - Farah, Benji, Fulton, Gibbs, Lawrence etc.

I'm not a subscriber of this "props reach their best by about 26-27 years of age" idea - a great number of the current best performing props are in their early 20s: Fifita (24), Woodsie (22), Merrin (23), Tamou (24), Josh McGuire (23), Matulino (24), Jesse Bromwich (24), etc. Even older players got their first rep jerseys early enough e.g. - Matt Scott (20), Hannant (23), Glenn Lazarus (23), Blocker (22) etc. I am a believer in "if you are good enough, you are old enough".

I'd love to keep the young Grobot, he's a junior and I think he does have potential, in a style that is different to a Fifita. By the same token, Potter is clearly putting a broom through the place and if you support that move you gotta go through with it, no half measures.

 

[Shooshmeister]

Thats a shame, would alest like to see him play 1-2 games in 1st grade just to see if we are making the right call on letting him go. Has alot of potential, and one day may or may not find it. Good luck to him if he leave the club.

 

[barra]

While I believe the other youngsters we have kept show plenty of promise I would have liked to see Matt get another chance THIS year. He has been busting a gut in State Cup from what I've seen.

I would have had him on the bench for Anasta, or BMM. I reckon he would rip in if only given the stock 20 minutes.

 

[innsaneink]

So nothing official yet/at all?