Mbye to 6

crazycat

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Madge is now moving Doueihi from 6 to Center with Mbye moving to 6 to partner with Brooks.

A very strange move as many would agree Doueihi has been one of our best on field.

At first I was dead set against it. Doueihi was in form, why move him.

Yet I see the pro's:
Mbye Passes, a lot. Getting the Ball out a lot more.
He has speed.
He has energy.

The cons:
Mbye tends to speedhump in defense. Getting in a good positpion and not stopping rhe player. . Maybe a good reason to not put him at Center or Fullback.

Mbye does not direct a side. Passes a lot and follows the side.

Mbye rarely runs. IMHO a ball running 5/8 is good to have.

I see good pros with Doueihi at center. Can pass. Can Run. Can defend and were leaking tries. Moving Doueihi to center makes him the one who scores or the one to pass to score.

Still dont know about this change...
 
I advocated for Mbye to move to 6 12 months ago. I don’t think it’s the worst idea.....except for the fact that Doueihi has been a star this year. I don’t get it 🤔
 
@crazycat said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1359979) said:
Madge is now moving Doueihi from 6 to Center with Mbye moving to 6 to partner with Brooks.

A very strange move as many would agree Doueihi has been one of our best on field.

At first I was dead set against it. Doueihi was in form, why move him.

Yet I see the pro's:
Mbye Passes, a lot. Getting the Ball out a lot more.
He has speed.
He has energy.

The cons:
Mbye tends to speedhump in defense. Getting in a good positpion and not stopping rhe player. . Maybe a good reason to not put him at Center or Fullback.

Mbye does not direct a side. Passes a lot and follows the side.

Mbye rarely runs. IMHO a ball running 5/8 is good to have.

I see good pros with Doueihi at center. Can pass. Can Run. Can defend and were leaking tries. Moving Doueihi to center makes him the one who scores or the one to pass to score.

Still dont know about this change...

Mbye rarely runs, while Doueihi rarely passes. And therefore our wingers rarely score.
 
@gnr4life said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1359995) said:
I advocated for Mbye to move to 6 12 months ago. I don’t think it’s the worst idea.....except for the fact that Doueihi has been a star this year. I don’t get it 🤔

Scratching at straws but could it be an audition for Mbye to squeeze more dollars out of his new suitors?
 
Magic round our two highest paid players in the middle leading the way - that's how the cap should work. Let them carry the burden on the big stage in their preferred position and if they don't then it just won't be the coach who shoulders the blame. They are our senior players they are beyond learning any thing in reserve grade - suck it up fellas and earn your keep and own your game for once.
 
My major concern with Mbye in any position is he looks to me like he’s simply marking time with us now. He is moving on and he may as well already have gone because his heart and effort are not in it. Listening to the interview with him on WTs app he sounded totally disinterested and unconvincing.
Problem for Madge is we have few realistic options at centre or at 5/8.
AD may well struggle defensively at centre especially if marking Best.
 
@enmore_tiger said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1359997) said:
@gnr4life said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1359995) said:
I advocated for Mbye to move to 6 12 months ago. I don’t think it’s the worst idea.....except for the fact that Doueihi has been a star this year. I don’t get it ?

Scratching at straws but could it be an audition for Mbye to squeeze more dollars out of his new suitors?


I think Madge has a single minded motivation..to win. And therefore everything he does has that focus.
 
@twentyforty said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1360026) said:
@enmore_tiger said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1359997) said:
@gnr4life said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1359995) said:
I advocated for Mbye to move to 6 12 months ago. I don’t think it’s the worst idea.....except for the fact that Doueihi has been a star this year. I don’t get it ?

Scratching at straws but could it be an audition for Mbye to squeeze more dollars out of his new suitors?


I think Madge has a single minded motivation..to win. And therefore everything he does has that focus.

I agree. I think he is just trying stuff. Doueihi can do his stuff a little wider and we might see Madden at 7 and Brooks at 6.
 
@crazycat said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1359979) said:
Madge is now moving Doueihi from 6 to Center with Mbye moving to 6 to partner with Brooks.

A very strange move as many would agree Doueihi has been one of our best on field.

At first I was dead set against it. Doueihi was in form, why move him.

Yet I see the pro's:
Mbye Passes, a lot. Getting the Ball out a lot more.
He has speed.
He has energy.

The cons:
Mbye tends to speedhump in defense. Getting in a good positpion and not stopping rhe player. . Maybe a good reason to not put him at Center or Fullback.

Mbye does not direct a side. Passes a lot and follows the side.

Mbye rarely runs. IMHO a ball running 5/8 is good to have.

I see good pros with Doueihi at center. Can pass. Can Run. Can defend and were leaking tries. Moving Doueihi to center makes him the one who scores or the one to pass to score.

Still dont know about this change...

Maybe the game plan is run mbye at Klemmer and Frizell all day. Look for a Souths style medical retirement
 
Mbye is an "athlete" but he's definitely not a footballer...

Heard this mentioned about him a bunch of times.

One guy who always looks like his heart just isn't in it.
 
@demps said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1360101) said:
Mbye is an "athlete" but he's definitely not a footballer...

Heard this mentioned about him a bunch of times.

One guy who always looks like his heart just isn't in it.

A few QLDers in the SoO camp think he is a 6, and have been critical of Dogs and WT for playing him out of position.
I personally think it’s a good idea for a young player to play many different positions while learning the game, but it’s a must to settle and specialise at an early stage if you’re going to reach peak performance. Mbye has moved around so much that he is average at all positions but not really good at one. It’s interesting that Blues selectors wouldn’t dream of playing Teddy anywhere but one, while T Turbo would be slotted in at 2,3,4 or 5?
 
Just a thought experiment here , what if our attack does go better ? What if having AD out wider forces the defence to adjust creating more space inside ? What if the balance on that edge defensively is better ?
Would people be glad about that ? Or is it they just want the current batch gone , because they’re sick of watching them ?
I don’t care who plays where for the record . Brooks can play 9 Mbye can play front row , and AD can play wing , sheenius style , as long as we win . And yes AD looked good in the 6 , we weren’t winning .
Maybe madden comes on for brooks and makes all the haters dreams come true, and we never see brooksy in first grade again . Once again I don’t care . If that’s what is best for the team , I’m all in .
 
@gnr4life said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1359995) said:
I advocated for Mbye to move to 6 12 months ago. I don’t think it’s the worst idea.....except for the fact that Doueihi has been a star this year. I don’t get it 🤔

i think its his best position as he rushes out of the line too much

Also agree, it shouldnt have come at a cost of AD being moved
If anything, Brooks needed to go but our defence is vulnerable on the edges, something AD will be able to bolster
 
@strongee said in [Mbye to 6](/post/1360162) said:
Just a thought experiment here , what if our attack does go better ? What if having AD out wider forces the defence to adjust creating more space inside ? What if the balance on that edge defensively is better ?
Would people be glad about that ? Or is it they just want the current batch gone , because they’re sick of watching them ?
I don’t care who plays where for the record . Brooks can play 9 Mbye can play front row , and AD can play wing , sheenius style , as long as we win . And yes AD looked good in the 6 , we weren’t winning .
Maybe madden comes on for brooks and makes all the haters dreams come true, and we never see brooksy in first grade again . Once again I don’t care . If that’s what is best for the team , I’m all in .


I think it’s more likely Madden comes on for Mbye, pushing Brooks to 6?
 
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